Despite liberal lies, premiums are higher, according to study

Big money said:
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Didn't Obama claim healthcare costs would go down? Is he a teabagger?

BTW, didn't you claim to be ignoring me earlier? I knew you couldn't do it, Bayou Butthurt boy.
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He's a moron of incredible proportions whose stupidity is can only be exceeded by the vulgar and painfully stupid Desh.
 
Rune said:
Romneycare has been in effect for 6 years. ACA isn't even fully actuated until 2014.

In other words, it is too soon to tell.

You have no proof whatsoever that it will not lower costs eventually.

Furthermore, to you everlasting shame, I did answer the question in my previous post.

Tomorrow: take one less stupid pill please.
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Because you are a dimwitted asshat inclined to lie and deflect, it is only common sense to presume that this train wreck called Obamacare, which was passed by dimwitted Democrats along party lines who admitted they didn't know what was in the bill they were voting for, that one can deduce that forcing private insurance companies to accept everyone without exception and placing millions on the plan who can't afford healthcare using subsidies, that the costs of this program will skyrocket into the trillions.

But you're a dimwitted asshat inclined to spam forum threads with clueless nonsense, how could one possibly expect you to think?

Moron.
 
Rune said:
I don't give a fuck what your "study" says. The proof is in the pudding and the pudding is still in the oven.
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Translation; I'm a dimwitted asshat who is unconcerned with facts or reality and determined to stay that way. :rolleyes:
 
Truth Detector said:
Because you are a dimwitted asshat inclined to lie and deflect, it is only common sense to presume that this train wreck called Obamacare, which was passed by dimwitted Democrats along party lines who admitted they didn't know what was in the bill they were voting for, that one can deduce that forcing private insurance companies to accept everyone without exception and placing millions on the plan who can't afford healthcare using subsidies, that the costs of this program will skyrocket into the trillions.

But you're a dimwitted asshat inclined to spam forum threads with clueless nonsense, how could one possibly expect you to think?

Moron.
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Man the baricades and start filling sandbags clueless shitbag. Your days are numbered.

 
The notice from Kaiser came in the mail about ten days ago.

Luke Donavan’s health insurance premiums were going up. A lot.

Donavan, 41 of San Francisco, is self-employed and buys his own health insurance. Currently he pays $841 per month for insurance for himself, his wife and three young children. Effective Jan. 1, that’s going up to $1,000, with a higher deductible.

Donavan says he voted for Obama in both elections and calls himself a “big proponent” of the health law. He has a pretty calm demeanor and says he was “surprised” by this news from Kaiser.

“I just keep coming back to the name ‘Affordable Care Act,’” he said. “I thought I’d pay the same or less for better coverage.”

Subsidies are available for people to buy insurance, but they are dependent on income. Donavan says he earns too much to qualify.

Indeed, nationally, a recent study from the non-partisan Kaiser Family Foundation (not affiliated with Kaiser Permanente) found that just over half of people currently buying insurance on the individual market will see their premiums go down.

Larry Levitt, senior vice president with the foundation, says that Donavan’s situation “encapsulates the diversity of experiences” that people are likely to have with Obamacare.

Some people may pay higher premiums, he said, “and the reason those premiums are going up is because people with pre-existing conditions will now be able to get insurance, and those people often have very high medical bills. That money has to come from somewhere.”


http://blogs.kqed.org/stateofhealth/2013/10/04/obamacare-downside-reports-of-premiums-going-up/
 
The Dude said:
Fox News tard, make us laugh and say you went to college. Patriot at least manned up and admitted he couldn't get in!
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What is this; another dimwitted plea for attention from the forums thread troll whore; say it isn't so!!

Unlike small minded asshats like you Dupe, I don't need to lie about myself, my background or my education. Now you can continue removing all doubts what a painfully inept buffoon you are and stop spamming threads with your retarded nonsense, or continue removing all doubt you're an asshat.

I'm guessing you will continue because you really are that stupid.

By the way, I graduated with honors in a class of 5,000.

Dismissed dumbass.
 
http://articles.latimes.com/1986-10-...onal-committee


In an Aug. 13 memo the court made public Friday, Kris Wolfe, the Republican National Committee Midwest political director, wrote Lanny Griffith, the committee's Southern political director, and said of the Louisiana campaigning:

"I know this race is really important to you. I would guess that this program will eliminate at least 60-80,000 folks from the rolls. . . . If it's a close race . . . which I'm assuming it is, this could keep the black vote down considerably."

Unseals Document

She said in the memorandum that the program had been approved by Gregory Graves, deputy political director of the National Republican Senatorial Committee.The document, called Exhibit 13, was unsealed by U.S. District Judge Dickinson R. Debevoise when lawyers for the Democratic National Committee said it was needed to question Wolfe





right from the top of the party




this proves its the republicans who are the shit bags
 
Truth Detector said:
What is this; another dimwitted plea for attention from the forums thread troll whore; say it isn't so!!

Unlike small minded asshats like you Dupe, I don't need to lie about myself, my background or my education. Now you can continue removing all doubts what a painfully inept buffoon you are and stop spamming threads with your retarded nonsense, or continue removing all doubt you're an asshat.

I'm guessing you will continue because you really are that stupid.

By the way, I graduated with honors in a class of 5,000.

Dismissed dumbass.
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High school?
 
A number of states have recently released information on what premiums will be in the individual insurance market in 2014, when significant changes in that market take effect due to the Affordable Care Act (ACA).

In some cases, states have provided estimates of how those premiums compare to what people buying their own insurance are paying today.

Our analysis – which is described more fully in the methodology appendix – is based on premium estimates from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and the characteristics of current individual market enrollees in the federal government’s Survey of Income and Program Participation.

While our premium estimate is based on CBO’s projection and actual premiums will vary from area to area, the premium values we are using are consistent with those that have been released to date in several states.

Using CBO’s estimate of an average premium for the second-lowest-cost silver in 2016, we estimate that the national average benchmark premium for a 40-year-old in 2014 would be $3,857 per year (or $321 per month).

Benchmark premiums at other ages are based on uniform age factors that have been established in regulations issued by the Department of Health and Human Services.

We estimate that current individual market purchasers will face an average premium per family for the second-lowest-cost silver plan of $8,250 in 2014.

This is an average premium across families of all sizes.

Most current individual market enrollees are in families of one person (55%) or two people (29%).



http://kff.org/health-reform/issue-brief/quantifying-tax-credits-for-people-now-buying-insurance-on-their-own/
 
the White House and the US Department of Health and Human Services announced that the cost for health insurance that uninsured individuals are required to buy under the Affordable Healthcare Act would average 16 percent less than before here in Pennsylvania.

That comparison, however, was made against what the Congressional Budget Office calculated rates might look like in 2016, not against the actual plans available prior to Oct.1 when enrollment began.

A rough comparison between those earlier 2013 plans and the ACA rates, made by the Manhattan Institute using the HHS data, yielded a different result with statewide premium rates for a 27-year-old male at a 279-percent increase in Nebraska. In this analysis, the average increase in Pennsylvania is 63 percent.

Pennsylvania is divided into nine Rating Areas. Pittsburgh is in Area 4.

Using the HHS rate calculator at http://aspe.hhs.gov/health/reports/2013/MarketplacePremiums/datasheet_home.cfm, one can see that in Zone 4, there are four providers offering a total of 41 plans: five Catastrophic, eight Bronze, 13 Silver, 14 Gold and one Platinum. You can plug in your age and find the monthly premium costs for least expensive policy in all categories.

For instance, a 27-year-old will pay monthly premiums of $103.69 for the cheapest Catastrophic plan, $119.19 for Bronze, $133.83 for Silver and $169 for Gold.

For a 40-year-old the costs range from $126.45 for Catastrophic, $145.35 for Bronze, $163.20 for Silver, and $206.09 for Gold.

For a 64-year-old, the monthly cost of the cheapest Catastrophic policy is $296.82, Bronze is $341.19, Silver is $383.10, and Gold is $483.78. If you lived in Area 8, that same Gold policy would cost $715.83 per month.

These policies also have deductibles and co-pays, which generally vary inversely with the level of coverage.




http://www.newpittsburghcourieronline.com/index.php/featured-news/metro/17948-here-s-what-obamacare-will-cost-you
 
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