DESANTIS Jumps to an 11 Point Lead

[ExpressLane]

Florida ranks 39th in their return on federal tax dollars paid.

https://www.moneygeek.com/living/states-most-reliant-federal-government/

So the majority of states take more federal tax dollars.

Top 10 states for disaster relief.
New York: $16.06 billion
Louisiana: $5.57 billion
Texas: $3.86 billion
New Jersey: $3.57 billion
Florida: $2.61 billion
California: $1.7 billion
North Carolina: $716 million
South Carolina: $555 million
Mississippi: $308 million
Missouri: $208 million

Bold equals fewer citizens than Florida.

 

[BartenderElite]

We sure do love those grandstanding "look at me" politicians.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Florida ranks 39th in their return on federal tax dollars paid.

https://www.moneygeek.com/living/states-most-reliant-federal-government/

While that's a common metric, it's not the only one. Another is learned from the maxim "one cannot eat money". Most states with agricultural economies are feeding the rest of the nation.

IMO, this form of argument is like the joke about the body parts arguing who is most important: https://gregferro.com/joke-when-the-body-was-first-made-who-was-the-most-important/

The bottom line is that our nation is a system and all parts are important. Why does Russia want Ukraine so badly? Ukraine is the bread basket of Europe.

https://www.fdacs.gov/Agriculture-Industry/Florida-Agriculture-Overview-and-Statistics
Florida’s 47,400 farms and ranches utilize 9.7 million acres and continue to produce a wide variety of safe and dependable food products. From the citrus groves and the nurseries in Central and South Florida, to the vegetables in various regions around the state, to the cattle and calves throughout the state, these farms and ranches provide Florida with a large and stable economic base. In 2020 Florida ranked first in the United States in the value of production for oranges, sugarcane, fresh market tomatoes and watermelons; second in the value of production for strawberries; third in cabbage, grapefruit and fresh market sweet corn; and fourth in peanuts.

Industrial states are not well known for growing food:
“When the last tree has been cut down, the last fish caught, the last river poisoned, only then will we realize that one cannot eat money"

https://www.vox.com/a/explain-food-america
40 maps that explain food in America

 

[Saint Guinefort]

While that's a common metric, it's not the only one. Another is learned from the maxim "one cannot eat money". Most states with agricultural economies are feeding the rest of the nation.

Yeah, I like hearing that. It's usually on forums where people are busy denying climate change and trying to figure out why they shouldn't care about California's Central Valley.

IMO, this form of argument is like the joke about the body parts arguing who is most important: https://gregferro.com/joke-when-the-body-was-first-made-who-was-the-most-important/

Again, my point is NOT that Florida is undeserving. My point is and always has been that DeSantis and his culture warriors who decry evil socialism CANNOT then benefit from that without being massive hypocrites.

When DeSantis voted against Hurricane Sandy relief he set the precedent.


I wish people could understand that point.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Yeah, I like hearing that. It's usually on forums where people are busy denying climate change and trying to figure out why they shouldn't care about California's Central Valley.



Again, my point is NOT that Florida is undeserving. My point is and always has been that DeSantis and his culture warriors who decry evil socialism CANNOT then benefit from that without being massive hypocrites.

When DeSantis voted against Hurricane Sandy relief he set the precedent.


I wish people could understand that point.

Incidents like DeSantis's comments and Congressional vote in 2013 can and do come back to haunt them, as Ian did 9 years later...and rightfully so. US politics is fucked up enough without Congressional reps seeking to fuck over other states.

There should be a uniform standard.

OTOH, and one reason I dislike politics, is that sometimes Congressional reps will vote against a bill they know will pass just to look good to their constituents. IMO, while that is a reality of seeking reelection*, it's also a chickenshit way to do things, as Ian is proving now. DeSantis was running for reelection in 2014.

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1131/vote_113_1_00004.htm

Vote Counts:YEAs62
NAYs36
Not Voting2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Sandy_relief_bill#House_of_Representatives

House of Representatives
The Bill was introduced into the House of Representatives on January 3, 2013 by Rep. Scott Garrett (R-N.J.), with 44 cosponsors.

On January 4 the Bill was considered by the House. The vote was made under suspension of the rules, so it required a two-thirds majority.
It was passed 354-67.

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/n...s-hurricane-sandy-aid-mostly-true/8167210001/

• Sen. Marco Rubio and Gov. Ron DeSantis have sought assistance from the Biden administration for disaster relief in Florida following Hurricane Ian.
• In 2012 and 2013, Rubio voted against the larger aid packages for victims of Hurricane Sandy but supported smaller aid bills. Hurricane Sandy made landfall Oct. 29, 2012, and devastated portions of the East Coast, including New York and New Jersey.
• In 2013, then-U.S. Rep. DeSantis voted against hurricane aid for Sandy’s victims.

*Another reason why we need Election Reform. IMO, take out most of the money, reduce the length of the election season, extend House terms to 4 years with 4 terms max, and Senate 3 terms max.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Pretty funny, the MAGA militia is getting all giddy cause DeSantis is favored to win Florida, it would be like New Yorkers boasting because a Democrat will win New York

I remember when lib'rul thought they could turn Florida.......

 

[RB 60]

You misread. (Not surprising).

I am A-OK with helping FLorida out no matter what. The problem is that we have to then later on hear Ron Desantis and the GQP crowd bitching about "socialism" this and "socialism" that....RIGHT AFTER THEY GOT EVERY BENEFIT A SOCIAL SOCIETY PROVIDES.

It's the HYPOCRISY.

(I understand that is probably too subtle for you to grasp).

Natural disasters are unavoidable. Illegals entering this country ARE avoidable. I'd rather spend our tax dollars helping naturally displaced Americans than housing, feeding and medicating illegals. Wouldn't you?

 

[RB 60]

Pretty funny, the MAGA militia is getting all giddy cause DeSantis is favored to win Florida, it would be like New Yorkers boasting because a Democrat will win New York

You still haven't told us what the MAGA militia is. Well...?


FJB

 

[Saint Guinefort]

Natural disasters are unavoidable. Illegals entering this country ARE avoidable. I'd rather spend our tax dollars helping naturally displaced Americans than housing, feeding and medicating illegals. Wouldn't you?

You didn't really follow the conversation, did you? Sorry 'bout that. I can't read the posts for you.

 

[RB 60]

You didn't really follow the conversation, did you? Sorry 'bout that. I can't read the posts for you.

Yeah, OK

 

[Jarod]

DeSantis was very smart with the hurricane recovery effort. He did a solid job of being governor, and he laid off the culture wars, he behaved like an old fashion, Republican, not a Trumper. Look what it did for his poll numbers.

 

[Grokmaster]

Governor Ron DeSantis Issues Updates on Hurricane Ian Recovery 10/05


Today, Governor Ron DeSantis traveled to Lee County to give updates, survey impacted areas and to deliver supplies to Sanibel Island. While visiting Matlacha in Lee County, the Governor announced the emergency road and bridge repairs for Pine Island have been completed in less than three days. The Governor also brought Florida Department of Transportation engineers to Sanibel Island to begin construction on a bridge to the island. Full remarks can be found here.

This morning, President Biden approved the Governor's request to make additional disaster funding available to the State of Florida and extended the time period for 100 percent federal funding for an additional 30 days, giving Florida a total of 60 days at 100 percent funding following Hurricane Ian.

There are currently 298,820 reported power outages. They have already restored power nearly 2.4 million accounts across the state, representing 88.92% of accounts restored since the peak. There are currently 11 fueling depot stations open statewide, and a mobile fuel truck has been deployed to Arcadia to support residents without access to fuel.





https://www.floridadisaster.org/new...tis-issues-updates-on-hurricane-ian-recovery/



IT'S CALLED KICKING ASS...

 

[Phantasmal]

DeSantis was very smart with the hurricane recovery effort. He did a solid job of being governor, and he laid off the culture wars, he behaved like an old fashion, Republican, not a Trumper. Look what it did for his poll numbers.

It’s early in the recovery. Abbott had good reviews in the early days of Harvey, as recovery drug on and people didn’t get help, his rating dropped. He better keep his nose to the grind stone! He better also address the insurance crisis which will grow worse after this event.

 

[Grokmaster]

It’s early in the recovery. Abbott had good reviews in the early days of Harvey, as recovery drug on and people didn’t get help, his rating dropped. He better keep his nose to the grind stone! He better also address the insurance crisis which will grow worse after this event.

SEE THE DESPERATION AND DENIAL GROWING AS THE NOVEMBER ASS-KICKING APPROACHES, AND DESANTIS HAS BECOME A JUGGERNAUT...

 

[Saint Guinefort]

DeSantis was very smart with the hurricane recovery effort. He did a solid job of being governor, and he laid off the culture wars, he behaved like an old fashion, Republican, not a Trumper. Look what it did for his poll numbers.

This is the same "low expectations" we grew accustomed to under Trump. Whenever he accidentally (or by necessity) had to act like a normal human being with a sense of human decency everyone thought it meant a fundamental change in the leopard's spots. Unfortunately nothing of the sort was really at play.

I suspect DeSantis is much smarter than Trump and knows when to keep his trap shut so he can get the money from the rest of the suckers in the US who care more about Floridians than Desantis does. If Desantis cared about Florida he'd make sure it wasn't a pariah state of stupidity when the sun is shining and the clouds scarce.

The true nature of a leader doesn't just show up when disaster hits. It should be there all the time.

 

[Grokmaster]

This is the same "low expectations" we grew accustomed to under Trump. Whenever he accidentally (or by necessity) had to act like a normal human being with a sense of human decency everyone thought it meant a fundamental change in the leopard's spots. Unfortunately nothing of the sort was really at play.

I suspect DeSantis is much smarter than Trump and knows when to keep his trap shut so he can get the money from the rest of the suckers in the US who care more about Floridians than Desantis does. If Desantis cared about Florida he'd make sure it wasn't a pariah state of stupidity when the sun is shining and the clouds scarce.

The true nature of a leader doesn't just show up when disaster hits. It should be there all the time.

MORE HORSESHIT AS THE LOCAL LEFT PRETENDS THAT THEIR MADEUP BULLSHIT IS TRUE.

 

[Saint Guinefort]

MORE HORSESHIT AS THE LOCAL LEFT PRETENDS THAT THEIR MADEUP BULLSHIT IS TRUE.

It is inspiring to see the kind of responses Conservatives post. Usually it is crudely typed, often with weird syntax or bad grammar, many times in bold, but ALWAYS has to call the other person a name.

I wonder what it would be like if ANY of you lot had been able to make it through high school. Probably a more nuanced conversation could be had. But instead we are left with mouthbreathers who mistake hammering the keys with their paws for interesting commentary.

 

[Grokmaster]

It is inspiring to see the kind of responses Conservatives post. Usually it is crudely typed, often with weird syntax or bad grammar, many times in bold, but ALWAYS has to call the other person a name.

I wonder what it would be like if ANY of you lot had been able to make it through high school. Probably a more nuanced conversation could be had. But instead we are left with mouthbreathers who mistake hammering the keys with their paws for interesting commentary.

APPROPRIATE FOR IDIOTIC POSTS FROM LEFTIDIOTS DISCUSSING MADEUP BULLSHIT AS THOUGH IT'S FACTUAL.

ALSO SHOWS HOW NEUROTIC THE LEFT IS, REDUCED TO OBSESSING OVER FONT...LIKE THE WASTE CASES THAT THEY ARE, INCLUDING YOU.

MEANWHILE, DESANTIS IS HITTING IT OUT OF THE PARK, AS THE NOVEMBER ASS KICKING APPROACHES...

 

[Saint Guinefort]

APPROPRIATE FOR IDIOTIC POSTS FROM LEFTIDIOTS DISCUSSING MADEUP BULLSHIT AS THOUGH IT'S FACTUAL.

ALSO SHOWS HOW NEUROTIC THE LEFT IS, REDUCED TO OBSESSING OVER FONT...LIKE THE WASTE CASES THAT THEY ARE, INCLUDING YOU.

MEANWHILE, DESANTIS IS HITTING IT OUT OF THE PARK, AS THE NOVEMBER ASS KICKING APPROACHES...

You post like some nutjob who, before the internet, earnestly stapled random rants to telephone poles.

 

[Grokmaster]

You post like some nutjob who, before the internet, earnestly stapled random rants to telephone poles.

Oh LOOK!! THE "ARBITER OF PROPER POSTING" IS BLESSING US WITH ITS PRESENCE!!

WE ARE ASO LUCKY !!! HOW DID WE EVER GET BY WITHOUT YOUR SELF-IMPORTANT, SELF-DECLARED EXPERTISE?





AS DESANTIS RUNS AWAY WITH THE FLORIDA GOV RACE.