DEMTHUG WHO TRIED TO MURDER GOP NY GOV CANDIDATE, RELEASED WITH NO BAIL

[Grokmaster]

If the suspect was "released" to federal custody, then I think Althea has asked a reasonable question. So what? It is not like he was actually free.

It appears I made a mistake when I thought he had been released to go free. I am man enough to admit it.

NOT WHAT SHE WAS ASKING.

AND NO, HE WAS RE-ARRESTED. HE WAS NOT "RELEASED INTO FEDERAL CUSTODY".


MORE FUCKING LIES.


SO WE'LL JUST PRETEND YUR WHOLE "REPUBLICAN JUDGE AND PROSECUTOR" LIES DIDN'T JUST BLOWUP IN YOUR FACE...IS THAT IT?



YOU JUST GO FROM ONE LIE TO THE NEXT, WITHOUT BLINKING AN EYE...THE SURE TEST/PROOF OF A LIE-O-CRAT.

 

[Walt]

AND NO, HE WAS RE-ARRESTED. HE WAS NOT "RELEASED INTO FEDERAL CUSTODY".

Grok is very angry lately.

The current most probable story was he was arrested within minutes of being released, which is what is meant by released into federal custody. It could also be called re-arrested. It makes the process of extradition irrelevant, so is often used in such cases.

The current most probable story might not be correct, but it appears it is. I have been careful to say that.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

MAKING UP BULLSHIT I'VE NEVER SAID , IN YOUR SILLIASS ATEMPT TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT.


WHAT A TWIT, AS ALWAYS.

IRRELEVANT TO UNCHARGED PEOPLE BEING JAILED FOR OVER A YEAR (UNCONSTITUTIONAL), AND THE DEMTHUG ATTEMPTED ASSASSIN BEING RELEASED IN HOURS W/O BAIL.


TRY AGAIN.

Ok.. Name ONE person that has been jailed for a year and wasn't charged with a crime. Give us a name.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

How about letting me use one on your throat?

How about letting me use a flagpole? Or a police shield? Or a taser?

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

It seems you missed the part where over 100 police officers were injured.

 

[Lionfish]

Ok.. Name ONE person that has been jailed for a year and wasn't charged with a crime. Give us a name.

Jan 6 people come to mind.

 

[Walt]

Jan 6 people come to mind.

I am pretty sure they were all charged with crimes. Some of their trials have taken some time, but they were charged, and arraigned.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

He got out in 6 hours. He didn't get charged with attempted murder. New York's legal system is broken.

More than likely, he wasn't found to have committed any serious crime.

New York isn't Florida or Texas. They usually know what the fuck they're doing.

 

[Lionfish]

I am pretty sure they were all charged with crimes. Some of their trials have taken some time, but they were charged, and arraigned.

Give us a list of the actual charges. That should be easy for you.

 

[volsrock]

More than likely, he wasn't found to have committed any serious crime.

New York isn't Florida or Texas. They usually know what the fuck they're doing.

assaulting a member of Congress with a dangerous weapon

so thats not a serious crime.


Gee thats good...i thought assaulting a cop with a flagpole was serious...guess not

 

[NiftyNiblick]

assaulting a member of Congress with a dangerous weapon

so thats not a serious crime.

If it actually happened, it could be. I suppose the member of congress that was attacked would matter as well.
With some of the Republicans elected to office in this nation, attacking them might be worthy of receiving the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

 

[volsrock]

If it actually happened, it could be. I suppose the member of congress that was attacked would matter as well.
With some of the Republicans elected to office in this nation, attacking them might be worthy of receiving the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

member of congress that was attacked would matter as well


Glad u show your true colors


Attacking members of congress that u dont agree with is A-OK ....you should be on a watch list

 

[dukkha]

Actually, that puts the Republicans in a better light. They may have released him, so he could go directly into Federal custody.

New York Legislature passed bail reform in 2019 - not "Republicans" let the guy out on own recog

 

[dukkha]

The license is usually technically held by someone without a criminal record.

Let's use "Dog the Bounty Hunter" as an example. Duane Chapman was convicted of first degree murder. The victim was a black drug dealer, so Texas went very lightly on him... But Chapman was a drug dealer who wanted to steal the other drug dealers money. Not a great person there.

im not looking for character assessment from bounty hunters. as to Chapman he rehabilitated himself
he gets a lot of credit for doing so

They are only interested in the money. If they can shake you down for some more money, they will. If you miss an appearance, that puts getting their money back into risk, but usually they get back their money sooner or later.

no idea what this "shakedown" stuff is.
Most business unless it's a non-profit are "only in it for the money"

Paying a bail bondsman is effectively a fine, without anything proven. You do not get that money back.

so you can put up your own bail, the 10% is their fee for
doing it for you and the risks involved
they provide a service or everyone would have to put up their own collateral.
you use their service, you pay the 10%

 

[volsrock]

The license is usually technically held by someone without a criminal record.

Let's use "Dog the Bounty Hunter" as an example. Duane Chapman was convicted of first degree murder. The victim was a black drug dealer, so Texas went very lightly on him... But Chapman was a drug dealer who wanted to steal the other drug dealers money. Not a great person there.



They are only interested in the money. If they can shake you down for some more money, they will. If you miss an appearance, that puts getting their money back into risk, but usually they get back their money sooner or later.



Paying a bail bondsman is effectively a fine, without anything proven. You do not get that money back.

Dog killed NO ONE!!!!

As a young biker, Dog was waiting in a car when his friend accidentally shot and killed 69-year-old Oliver, an alleged pimp and drug dealer, while they were fighting over a cannabis deal.

Although Dog played no direct role in the murder, he was tried for the crime under Texas rules that anyone involved indirectly in a killing can be held responsible.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/3838313/dog-the-bounty-hunter-prison-time/

And they didnt go easy on him..they didnt have to charge him at all

 

[Walt]

Give us a list of the actual charges. That should be easy for you.

Give me a list of who the charges are for. Everyone got an arraignment rather quickly, and one can only be arraigned when there are charges.

 

[Walt]

New York Legislature passed bail reform in 2019 - not "Republicans" let the guy out on own recog

2019 New York bail reform bill only applied to non-violent crimes, so not this.

 

[Walt]

as to Chapman he rehabilitated himself he gets a lot of credit for doing so

I am all for giving people a second chance, even murderers like Chapman, but there has got to be an outer limit. He is demanding that he get to decide who is allowed to stay out of jail, and who has to go back. Often he has used that power to demand more money.

no idea what this "shakedown" stuff is.

Picture that you are arrested for suspicion that you committed a crime. Maybe you did, or maybe you didn't, but it does not matter. You pay $10k out of your saving to a bail bondsman controlled by Chapman, mentioning off handed that you have an additional $5k still in savings. There is a real chance that a week or two later Chapman will breakdown your door, announcing he has a "bad feeling" about you, and you now need to hand him the additional $5k. If you complain about it, that just confirms his "bad feeling", and you have to go back to jail... No refunds.

 

[Walt]

Dog killed NO ONE!!!!

Chapman was part of the planning and execution of the murder, so under the law, he is as guilty as the man who pulled the trigger. In Texas, they even executed a getaway driver a few years ago.

And they didnt go easy on him..they didnt have to charge him at all

Chapman was convicted of FIRST DEGREE MURDER. Not only didn't he get the death penalty, but he didn't even get an extended sentence. He served less than two years for FIRST DEGREE MURDER in Texas.

A lot of made about the victim being a drug dealer, but it is forgotten that Chapman was a drug dealer too. The difference is that Chapman did not pay for the drugs he got, he stole them through violence.

 

[volsrock]

Chapman was part of the planning and execution of the murder, so under the law, he is as guilty as the man who pulled the trigger. In Texas, they even executed a getaway driver a few years ago.



Chapman was convicted of FIRST DEGREE MURDER. Not only didn't he get the death penalty, but he didn't even get an extended sentence. He served less than two years for FIRST DEGREE MURDER in Texas.

A lot of made about the victim being a drug dealer, but it is forgotten that Chapman was a drug dealer too. The difference is that Chapman did not pay for the drugs he got, he stole them through violence.

so he was not a good person in 1976