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"Democrats look to make Marjorie Taylor Greene the face of GOP"
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cawacko
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I'm never going to pretend to be Karl Rove or James Carville, a political sage I am not. But I'm not buying that Democrats have no concern over losing House seats. At the end of the day they are in power and that's all that matters but as we know power comes and goes, and often quickly. And the party in power often loses seats during the first midterm so my guess is they aren't care free.
As far as total votes in the House, I could be missing something here, but it doesn't mean much to me. If you win your race by 1 point or 30 points your vote in the House counts the same. Maybe there's data that shows one party won more of their seats by a smaller margin and thus has more members vulnerable in the next election. That's definitely possible.
If I were Democrats I'd be all about putting Greene as the face of the Republican Party as well. Same reason Republicans do it for Pelosi and AOC. That's how the game is played.
Due to gerrymandering, Democrats have to have much higher raw vote totals to win the House than do Republicans. That is even more true in the Senate, where dem candidates routinely get 10 million more votes than Republicans. Republicans have been a ruling minority for the last four years; they've gotten fewer votes for their Presidential candidate, for their Senate candidates and for their House candidates. It isn't that close. Even with that advantage, Republicans continue to step up their voter suppression efforts. I'm not saying they have no concerns, I'm saying they shouldn't be concerned; this was a referendum on Trump that had down ballot implications. No Trump, no implications. The Georgia Senate races are just another data point to prove that the Republican party is losing ground.
cawacko
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Maybe I missed a portion of the discussion earlier in the thread but was someone questioning the election was a referendum on Trump?
No, my point is that I believe Trump being on the ballot impacted the down ballot races favorably, because Trump supporters and never Trumpers voted in concert with each other. I don't anticipate seeing that in the future. Not without Trump on the ballot.
cawacko
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Definitely possible. If I were a Democrat I'd be excited by the idea of a fractured Republican Party.
But it's not like Democrats don't have challenges of their own. We can look at 2016 for a recent example of that. There was unity in 2020 of course driven by the desire to be rid of Trump. But the Bernie and more moderate wing don't always see eye to eye and certain segments of Democratic voters have shown they are willing to stay home at election time if they feel their needs aren't being represented.
I have not read those but have heard many references to them..........
There is no doubt they are not just wanting to, but actually will pass us in most important ways.
I don't think most Americans are prepared for this.. 10-20 years after that India will surpass the USA as well...........
The USA, or rather wallstreet has made this happen, they sold the goose that lays the golden eggs to the dragon & they shall live happily ever after
I am also sad to say I believe they will win/out compete America as they have our own wallstreet rooting for them...
As Steve Bannon has said: Steve Bannon and Kyle Bass accuse Wall Street of ‘funding’ China’s fight with the US
& more importantly:Corporate America today is the lobbying arm of the Chinese Communist Party and Wall Street is the investor relations department
Yes, was a good move on his part + the secret ballot
He is certainly much smarter & wiser than trump & rudy..
Being tactful & out maneuvering the moron will be kids play for him but trump is likely to come @ him headON, personal attacks & outright rebellion against him & the party~if he can't be the leader of the party then he will fuck it up as much as he can, like a kid, a bat & a toy suffering from a bad case of user error
Greene is the face of the republican party. Today the party gave her a standing ovation after she spoke. They were rude and nasty to Cheney. In a secret vote, Cheney kept her spot. Put in front of the party, they abused her. Greene is the leader of your party. The party is Qanon is us.
Perhaps it is just me, but I saw her earlier today making her statement & she didn't look happy..
Payback is a MF they say, oh & that thing about a women scorned or something
I have not read those but have heard many references to them..........
There is no doubt they are not just wanting to, but actually will pass us in most important ways.
I don't think most Americans are prepared for this.. 10-20 years after that India will surpass the USA as well...........
The USA, or rather wallstreet has made this happen, they sold the goose that lays the golden eggs to the dragon & they shall live happily ever after
I am also sad to say I believe they will win/out compete America as they have our own wallstreet rooting for them...
As Steve Bannon has said: Steve Bannon and Kyle Bass accuse Wall Street of ‘funding’ China’s fight with the US
& more importantly:Corporate America today is the lobbying arm of the Chinese Communist Party and Wall Street is the investor relations department
Bill: "The USA, or rather wallstreet has made this happen, they sold the goose that lays the golden eggs to the dragon & they shall live happily ever after"
Jack: The US 'fought the Commies' and won. 'Capitalism' has prevailed. The 'Market Place', rather than the 'State', dictate Production. The 'Means of Production' are owned by Shareholders, rather than the State.
The Problem: 'The Shareholders' are mostly the Professional Class, not 'The Worker Drones'. So you automatically have a 'Class Divide' that is built into the System.
On top of that, you have 'Automation, Robotics, and Artificial Intelligence' which usually affects Jobs of the Worker Drones.
Then ... you have the Theory of Efficient Markets, where Production is made at the Most Efficient Cost. Meaning Production is made in some low-cost Third World Country. (Great for the Shareholding Class, Terrible for the Worker Drones)
The Result: 50% of Americans (the Worker Drones) are in a downward spiral for survival. Fighting 'Automation' and 'Outsourcing'.
Bill: "I am also sad to say I believe they will win/out compete America as they have our own wallstreet rooting for them..."
Jack: China has 'Central Planning'. They have a Plan. They aren't wedded to some 'laissez-faire Capitalism'. 'China First' is their Policy. NOT the promotion of Capitalism.
"Under laissez-faire capitalism, the role of government is to protect the rights of all individuals equally. In cases of the initiation of physical force or fraud, the government is required to protect the rights of injured parties. Thus, there are no bail-outs, no subsidies, no price controls, no licensing to create monopolies, no regulations to restrict competition, no “protection” from imports, nor any laws to interfere with the freedom of production, work, and contract, so long as one is not violating the rights of others."
https://www.capitalism.org/capitalism/laissez-faire/
Bill: "Corporate America today is the lobbying arm of the Chinese Communist Party and Wall Street is the investor relations department"
Jack: I would agree with that. Well, not so much 'the Chinese Communist Party', more like opening up China and it's 1.5 Billion Consumers to American Business.
Bottom Line: The American Investing Class are doing SPLENDID in the International Capitalist System. They make Money whether the cash register rings in Daytona, Beijing, Jakarta, or Mumbai.
They make money, the middle class aka the golden goose slowly dies...
If the middle class accumulated wealth fades or transfers to ccp we will have little left here..........
The bulk of the ppl working for walmart & other subsidized employment venues can only go on so long before Canadians start talking about building a wall on their southern boarder
Bill: "They make money, the middle class aka the golden goose slowly dies..."
Jack: You may have missed the point. The Investing Class/Donor Class/Ruling Class make Money on Consumers. China-1.5 Billion. India-1.4 Billion. Indonesia-.25 Billion.
I completely agree that we have a problem here. The Class Divide increases as we move forward in time.
1. 'Republican Plan': Build MORE 'Prisons-for-Profit' and fill with the Unemployed ... using college-educated Unemployed as 'Guards'. (Everybody make money ... well, except the Prisoners)
2. 'Democrat Plan': UBI (Universal Basic Income). Everybody gets enough money to buy 'widgets' from the Producers. (Again, everybody makes money ... except the Proletariat, who simply exist)
I don't know what the Solution is. 'Automation' is taking More and More Human Jobs. My only conclusion is that importing MORE 'Future Prisoners'/'Future Proletarians' is a Bad Idea.
"The Lights in the Tunnel: Automation, Accelerating Technology and the Economy of the Future"
http://www.thelightsinthetunnel.com/
"The book directly challenges nearly all conventional views of the future and illuminates the danger that lies ahead if we do not plan for the impact of rapidly advancing technology. It also offers unique insights into how technology will intertwine with globalization to shape the twenty-first century and explores ways in which the economic realities of the future might be leveraged to drive prosperity and to address global challenges such as poverty and climate change."
Yep..Bill: "They make money, the middle class aka the golden goose slowly dies..."
Jack: You may have missed the point. The Investing Class/Donor Class/Ruling Class make Money on Consumers. China-1.5 Billion. India-1.4 Billion. Indonesia-.25 Billion.
I completely agree that we have a problem here. The Class Divide increases as we move forward in time.
1. 'Republican Plan': Build MORE 'Prisons-for-Profit' and fill with the Unemployed ... using college-educated Unemployed as 'Guards'. (Everybody make money ... well, except the Prisoners)
2. 'Democrat Plan': UBI (Universal Basic Income). Everybody gets enough money to buy 'widgets' from the Producers. (Again, everybody makes money ... except the Proletariat, who simply exist)
I don't know what the Solution is. 'Automation' is taking More and More Human Jobs. My only conclusion is that importing MORE 'Future Prisoners'/'Future Proletarians' is a Bad Idea.
"The Lights in the Tunnel: Automation, Accelerating Technology and the Economy of the Future"
http://www.thelightsinthetunnel.com/
"The book directly challenges nearly all conventional views of the future and illuminates the danger that lies ahead if we do not plan for the impact of rapidly advancing technology. It also offers unique insights into how technology will intertwine with globalization to shape the twenty-first century and explores ways in which the economic realities of the future might be leveraged to drive prosperity and to address global challenges such as poverty and climate change."
I guess the idea is everyone will work for wallmart, the military or welfare & all live happily every after under the benevolent dictatorship of the ruling classes..
OR ... the Machines do all the work???
SO they told us....
The middle class does not own those machines & the rich may grow to tire of us & want us out of their country
SO they told us....
The middle class does not own those machines & the rich may grow to tire of us & want us out of their country
When 'Sheep' became more profitable than 'Farming' in England, the Landlords would evict the Tenant Farmers from their Lands. The Farmers would go to the Cities. The wives would become Prostitutes, the Children Pickpockets, and the Husbands Thieves. It was not uncommon to hang 20 'Thieves' a day in London.
"The more productive enclosed farms meant that fewer farmers were needed to work the same land, leaving many villagers without land and grazing rights. Many moved to the cities in search of work in the emerging factories of the Industrial Revolution. Others settled in the English colonies. English Poor Laws were enacted to help these newly poor. Some practices of enclosure were denounced by the Church and legislation was drawn up against it. However, the large, enclosed fields were needed for the gains in agricultural productivity from the 16th to 18th centuries. This controversy led to a series of government acts, culminating in the General Enclosure Act of 1801, which sanctioned large-scale land reform."
https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-hccc-worldhistory2/chapter/the-enclosure-act/
I think the current Plan is: For-Profit-Prisons.
Tried, did not make her the face. Greene is the face of the repiublkicunts as Trump's insurrection showed. That is who you are.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
sure we did......you is uuuugly.......and hiding in a bathroom in the wrong building.....