Democrats launch scorched-earth strategy against Trump

all you do is keep circlejerking about the promised land. It's all platitudes. What you think is confidence really just comes off as denial and desperation.

Show results. Don't be all talk. The republicans have never been so powerful in 80 years. They have the majority of state legislators, governorships, both houses of congress, the presidency, the supreme court, and the midterms are brutal for the dems, most dem senators are up for election in red states.

YOUR butthurt is GLARING dude. :0) Thanks .. I'm enjoying it.

Yes, the republicans are powerful .. now.

Yes, they have the majority of of everything .. and still these are very exciting times that promises a different future.

ALL that bodes well for a strong progressive future.

I do recognize that vision is beyond your nose .. thus you can't see it .. but that's OK, you don't have to.

Stay tuned. This is going to be fun. :0)

BTW, do you think the next time you post to me you can actually address what I say instead of pouring out your butthurt feelings about me. :0)
 
What began as a high-minded discussion about how to position the Democratic Party against President Donald Trump appears to be nearing its conclusion. The bulk of the party has settled on a scorched-earth, not-now-not-ever model of opposition.

In legislative proposals, campaign promises, donor pitches and even in some Senate hearings, Democrats have opted for a hard-line, give-no-quarter posture, a reflection of a seething party base that will have it no other way.

According to interviews with roughly two dozen party leaders and elected officeholders, the internal debate over whether to take the conciliatory path is largely settled, cemented in place by a transition and first week in office that has confirmed the left’s worst fears about Trump’s temperament.

“They were entitled to a grace period, but it was midnight the night of the inauguration to 8 o'clock the next morning, when the administration sent out people to lie about numerous significant things. And the damage to the credibility of the presidency has already been profound,” said Washington Gov. Jay Inslee. “They were entitled to a grace period and they blew it. It’s been worse than I could have imagined, the first few days."

That conclusion comes after two months of intraparty debates about how to outwardly treat the Trump White House, a process which played out not only in public but also in private meetings and conference calls between leading party operatives, elected officials and message crafters.


That mind-set has permeated every outpost of the party from governors' mansions to Congress. Whether it’s in statehouses or the offices of state attorneys general, the Democratic National Committee or the constellation of outside left-leaning political groups, Trump’s benefit of the doubt is gone.

At a forum this week for candidates running to be the next DNC chair, the very idea that the party should try to work with the new president was dismissed as absurd.

“That’s a question that’s absolutely ridiculous,” said New Hampshire party Chairman Raymond Buckley, when asked whether the Democratic Party should try to work with Trump where it can find opportunities.

Television commentator Jehmu Greene offered: “If you saw the millions of people who marched in the streets this weekend and participated in it, they are looking to the Democratic Party. We have an opportunity as a party to be that place of resistance. So we have to form a solid resistance as a party. And no, it is not about working with Donald Trump.” .

ome party leaders are wary of the implications of teeth-baring, no-holds-barred opposition. They worry about the difficult position in which it puts vulnerable Democratic senators — 10 of them will be up for reelection in 2018 in states that Trump carried.

There are also concerns about the dangers of appearing overly obstructionist, and the possible blowback it could create for party officeholders up and down the ballot in 2018. An explicitly aggressive approach also stands to shape the 2020 presidential field, incentivizing potential candidates to compete in expressing their level of anti-Trump vitriol.

“We need to remember that one of the reasons young voters, especially, were uninspired is you can’t have a message of, “I’m not him,’” cautioned DNC vice chairman R.T. Rybak, the former Minneapolis mayor.

“Focusing too much on what he says — every absurdity, every misrepresentation of fact, every lie that comes out of his mouth or his tweets — makes no sense to me,” said former Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, a candidate for California governor.
Brock’s Florida conference outlined some of the philosophical fault lines. In one closed-door session, Chicago mayor and former Barack Obama chief of staff Rahm Emanuel advocated a measured approach to Trump opposition, one in which Democrats choose only specific fights with a tight game plan]. Sitting opposite Emanuel, former Joe Biden chief of staff Ron Klain shared his rules for a “100 Day Fight Club” — a battle royal he advocated to mark Trump’s opening stretch, according to people in the room.

Other sessions detailed a massive pushback operation that featured expansive litigation plans and opposition research efforts.

Even so, strident anti-Trump Democrats worry that deal-makers like Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) will try to find agreements with the new president — concerns that have been heightened by the Cabinet confirmation process, in which Schumer has prioritized eight nominees rather than trying to gum up all the picks at once.

In their view, a true opposition party in the Senate should grind all Republican movement to a halt. But that creates a problem for the senators leading the charge, who insist choosing their battles is the most effective way to kneecap Trump’s agenda.

even governors, the realistic executives who understand the challenges of governance and management, are lining up to insist they won't fall for Trump's enticements in the form of infrastructure investments.

“I’ve never been a proponent of cutting off your nose to spite your face. There are going to be some things we can agree on,” said Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy. “I’m not precluding the possibility, but we’re not going to agree to discriminate, we’re not going to agree to make poor people poorer, we’re not going to agree to turn our back on our international obligations."
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/democrats-trump-strategy-234206

YEP - That's what they need to do and be as vocal about, as they can be; because that way when 2018 and 2020 roll around, even more of the liberal hypocrisy will be exposed and light allowed to be shined on it.
This could very well create a situation where even more voters abandon the liberal "cause" and encourage more of those who didn't vote in 2016, to get out and make sure that the liberal agendas are forced farther into that grave that the liberals are digging for themselves.

I SAY GO FOR IT. :good4u:
 
Pimp will cry the hardest when congress abandons Trumph...
I, for one, am looking forward to it...

Will it be in February, or maybe March??

How about April or May?

Should we wait until June, July, August??

Will be as long of a wait as, September, October, November??

Or maybe the 1 year anniversary of your first proclamation of a December Surprise??

:evilnod:

Tell us Beckly - Don't keep us all in suspense.


I'm not sure how more laughter we can stand.
 
it's hilarious, because trump has many moderate policy positions, such as what was mentioned at the end of the article re: infrastructure. That's something liberals would normally love to be a part of. Hoffa and the unions are already super pleased with Trump.

Liberals are cutting off their nose to spite their face and it's hilarious. They are so butthurt. I honestly can't even figure out why. Yeah yeah he grabs pussy but are you going to let that stop you from helping out the people of flint michigan?

Democrats will fail at this endeavor and I will tell you why - democrats like government. They like government running. They create government. They are trying to copy the republican style of obstructionism but what they forget is conservatives love having government shut down. It's like the best thing ever. Democrats not helping with public works projects goes against their very reason for being. It's antithetical to who they are.

Actually, their entire reason for being is abortion, but, they like to think they're about unions and labour.
 
Actually, their entire reason for being is abortion, but, they like to think they're about unions and labour.

More ignorance from the racist right.

Abortion is legal. It's you creeps that are obsessed with trying to take that legal right away.

Seriously, what planet are you people from?
 
YOUR butthurt is GLARING dude. :0) Thanks .. I'm enjoying it.

Yes, the republicans are powerful .. now.

Yes, they have the majority of of everything .. and still these are very exciting times that promises a different future.

ALL that bodes well for a strong progressive future.

I do recognize that vision is beyond your nose .. thus you can't see it .. but that's OK, you don't have to.

Stay tuned. This is going to be fun. :0)

BTW, do you think the next time you post to me you can actually address what I say instead of pouring out your butthurt feelings about me. :0)

Delusional.
 
then you're being inconsistent.......if everyone has an equal right to kill their children, how is being opposed to everyone killing their children a racist position?

Because you can't craft a policy that exempts by race you knucklehead.

'White births matter' is from White people, not me.
 
Stay tuned. This is going to be fun. :0)

BTW, do you think the next time you post to me you can actually address what I say instead of pouring out your butthurt feelings about me. :0)

you don't say anything substantive, it's just always the same pie in the sky rhetoric with no basis in reality.
 
Because you can't craft a policy that exempts by race you knucklehead.

'White births matter' is from White people, not me.

shakes a red flag in front of BAC......but what if I want to keep both white people and black people from killing their children......am I still a racist for trying to stop child-killing?.....
 
you don't say anything substantive, it's just always the same pie in the sky rhetoric with no basis in reality.

Of course I do .. that's why you're here whining about it. If it wasn't substantive, you'd ignore me.

For a guy who thinks a lot about his intellectual prowess, you're coming off like a mental midget dude. If you have opposition to what I'm saying .. address it with logic of your own. What's the problem? Shouldn't you be itching for the opportunity to display your vaunted mental prowess? :0) Where is it?

What? Trump's wall isn't a stupid idea? His crying about dick size isn't telling? Republicans didn't obstruct Obama?

There's all kinds of meat on that table .. if you were actually as intellectual as you think you are.

I'm not here to challenge your prima donna complex, or your inflated ego. But if you've got something real to say to me instead of your outpouring of useless emotions .. be my guest. :0) "I'll be your Huckleberry."
 
Of course I do .. that's why you're here whining about it. If it wasn't substantive, you'd ignore me.

For a guy who thinks a lot about his intellectual prowess, you're coming off like a mental midget dude. If you have opposition to what I'm saying .. address it with logic of your own. What's the problem? Shouldn't you be itching for the opportunity to display your vaunted mental prowess? :0) Where is it?

What? Trump's wall isn't a stupid idea? His crying about dick size isn't telling? Republicans didn't obstruct Obama?

There's all kinds of meat on that table .. if you were actually as intellectual as you think you are.

I'm not here to challenge your prima donna complex, or your inflated ego. But if you've got something real to say instead of your outpouring of useless emotions .. be my guest. :0) "I'll be your Huckleberry."

If you only you would do that with the new admin congress.

Instead, you will just give it back to them and have no moral high ground.

Enjoy throwing those rocks at your windows.
 
If you only you would do that with the new admin congress.

Instead, you will just give it back to them and have no moral high ground.

Enjoy throwing those rocks at your windows.

Not sure I understand what you're saying .. so I won't comment on it .. other than you defending Trump while talking about the 'moral high ground' is kinda' silly.
 
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