Democrats launch scorched-earth strategy against Trump

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What began as a high-minded discussion about how to position the Democratic Party against President Donald Trump appears to be nearing its conclusion. The bulk of the party has settled on a scorched-earth, not-now-not-ever model of opposition.

In legislative proposals, campaign promises, donor pitches and even in some Senate hearings, Democrats have opted for a hard-line, give-no-quarter posture, a reflection of a seething party base that will have it no other way.

According to interviews with roughly two dozen party leaders and elected officeholders, the internal debate over whether to take the conciliatory path is largely settled, cemented in place by a transition and first week in office that has confirmed the left’s worst fears about Trump’s temperament.

“They were entitled to a grace period, but it was midnight the night of the inauguration to 8 o'clock the next morning, when the administration sent out people to lie about numerous significant things. And the damage to the credibility of the presidency has already been profound,” said Washington Gov. Jay Inslee. “They were entitled to a grace period and they blew it. It’s been worse than I could have imagined, the first few days."

That conclusion comes after two months of intraparty debates about how to outwardly treat the Trump White House, a process which played out not only in public but also in private meetings and conference calls between leading party operatives, elected officials and message crafters.

“I predict the coming divide in the Democratic Party won’t be ideological so much as it will be between those who resist and oppose and those who accommodate and appease,” strategist David Brock told roughly 120 donors gathered in Florida over the weekend to plot a path forward.
That mind-set has permeated every outpost of the party from governors' mansions to Congress. Whether it’s in statehouses or the offices of state attorneys general, the Democratic National Committee or the constellation of outside left-leaning political groups, Trump’s benefit of the doubt is gone.

At a forum this week for candidates running to be the next DNC chair, the very idea that the party should try to work with the new president was dismissed as absurd.

“That’s a question that’s absolutely ridiculous,” said New Hampshire party Chairman Raymond Buckley, when asked whether the Democratic Party should try to work with Trump where it can find opportunities.

Television commentator Jehmu Greene offered: “If you saw the millions of people who marched in the streets this weekend and participated in it, they are looking to the Democratic Party. We have an opportunity as a party to be that place of resistance. So we have to form a solid resistance as a party. And no, it is not about working with Donald Trump.” .

ome party leaders are wary of the implications of teeth-baring, no-holds-barred opposition. They worry about the difficult position in which it puts vulnerable Democratic senators — 10 of them will be up for reelection in 2018 in states that Trump carried.

There are also concerns about the dangers of appearing overly obstructionist, and the possible blowback it could create for party officeholders up and down the ballot in 2018. An explicitly aggressive approach also stands to shape the 2020 presidential field, incentivizing potential candidates to compete in expressing their level of anti-Trump vitriol.

“We need to remember that one of the reasons young voters, especially, were uninspired is you can’t have a message of, “I’m not him,’” cautioned DNC vice chairman R.T. Rybak, the former Minneapolis mayor.

“Focusing too much on what he says — every absurdity, every misrepresentation of fact, every lie that comes out of his mouth or his tweets — makes no sense to me,” said former Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, a candidate for California governor.
"The best way to fight Trump is to chart what represents the values, the priorities that we’re for. I don’t think it makes sense to spend all of our time responding to every tweet, I think that will just reinforce a notion that many people have in our country that we put party before country."
Brock’s Florida conference outlined some of the philosophical fault lines. In one closed-door session, Chicago mayor and former Barack Obama chief of staff Rahm Emanuel advocated a measured approach to Trump opposition, one in which Democrats choose only specific fights with a tight game plan]. Sitting opposite Emanuel, former Joe Biden chief of staff Ron Klain shared his rules for a “100 Day Fight Club” — a battle royal he advocated to mark Trump’s opening stretch, according to people in the room.

Other sessions detailed a massive pushback operation that featured expansive litigation plans and opposition research efforts.

Even so, strident anti-Trump Democrats worry that deal-makers like Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) will try to find agreements with the new president — concerns that have been heightened by the Cabinet confirmation process, in which Schumer has prioritized eight nominees rather than trying to gum up all the picks at once.

In their view, a true opposition party in the Senate should grind all Republican movement to a halt. But that creates a problem for the senators leading the charge, who insist choosing their battles is the most effective way to kneecap Trump’s agenda.

even governors, the realistic executives who understand the challenges of governance and management, are lining up to insist they won't fall for Trump's enticements in the form of infrastructure investments.

“I’ve never been a proponent of cutting off your nose to spite your face. There are going to be some things we can agree on,” said Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy. “I’m not precluding the possibility, but we’re not going to agree to discriminate, we’re not going to agree to make poor people poorer, we’re not going to agree to turn our back on our international obligations."
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/democrats-trump-strategy-234206
 
where to start...first put aside all previous talk of "Republican obstructionism" under Obama in the trash can when evaluating his Legacy.

You can obstruct all you want to the point of kneecapping, by the militant extremists who have taken over 'progressivism'
but it leaves you wide open to being worse then "do nothings" when Trump starts passing his agenda.

Dems are on a jihad -is it suicidal? on the other hand they are already so freaking marginalized...
"what difference does it make at this point?"
 
it's hilarious, because trump has many moderate policy positions, such as what was mentioned at the end of the article re: infrastructure. That's something liberals would normally love to be a part of. Hoffa and the unions are already super pleased with Trump.

Liberals are cutting off their nose to spite their face and it's hilarious. They are so butthurt. I honestly can't even figure out why. Yeah yeah he grabs pussy but are you going to let that stop you from helping out the people of flint michigan?

Democrats will fail at this endeavor and I will tell you why - democrats like government. They like government running. They create government. They are trying to copy the republican style of obstructionism but what they forget is conservatives love having government shut down. It's like the best thing ever. Democrats not helping with public works projects goes against their very reason for being. It's antithetical to who they are.
 
I think they are getting the March mixed up with their power.
Aside from the fillibuster they aren't needed.and if they start to fillibuster EVERYTHING it makes the look worse then they are
 
I think they are getting the March mixed up with their power.
Aside from the fillibuster they aren't needed.and if they start to fillibuster EVERYTHING it makes the look worse then they are

OMG...if Democrats start utilizing the filibuster, they will begin to look like...


GASP...


...Republicans!
 
OMG...if Democrats start utilizing the filibuster, they will begin to look like...

GASP...

...Republicans!
which was the savings grace for Obama inabilities to legislate ( that and him constantly pointing to FOX news)
but fillibusters are not welcome by he electorate. It's gonna be high stakes poker for the Dems
 
i dont think this article is right. Warren just voted for confirming carson... mattis was overwhelmingly confirmed..... bernie praised tpp decision.
 
I think they are getting the March mixed up with their power.
Aside from the fillibuster they aren't needed.and if they start to fillibuster EVERYTHING it makes the look worse then they are

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AT you.

So now the Dems aren't needed? You need to blow that shit out your smoking.
 
i dont think this article is right. Warren just voted for confirming carson... mattis was overwhelmingly confirmed..... bernie praised tpp decision.
Bernie was already opposed. the rest are ( what should be) perfunctory votes
This scorched earth is getting beyond Congress to even the statehouses - the genuine "party of no"
 
it's hilarious, because trump has many moderate policy positions, such as what was mentioned at the end of the article re: infrastructure. That's something liberals would normally love to be a part of. Hoffa and the unions are already super pleased with Trump.

Liberals are cutting off their nose to spite their face and it's hilarious. They are so butthurt. I honestly can't even figure out why. Yeah yeah he grabs pussy but are you going to let that stop you from helping out the people of flint michigan?

Democrats will fail at this endeavor and I will tell you why - democrats like government. They like government running. They create government. They are trying to copy the republican style of obstructionism but what they forget is conservatives love having government shut down. It's like the best thing ever. Democrats not helping with public works projects goes against their very reason for being. It's antithetical to who they are.

You're right this is hilarious. :0) Republicans talking about obstructionism is absolutely hilarious.

"Being who they are" got a moron like Trump elected.

Clinton's are gone .. fuck accommodation with republicans. Leave those bastards to flounder on their own. Every fuck up belongs to them alone.

Encourage Trump to build a wall, cry about dick size, spout alternate truths, and tweet all manner of stupid shit in the middle of the night. That's exactly what we want.

You think you're the only ones who know how to obstruct. :0) You knuckleheads ain't seen nothing yet .. and we've already seen UNPRECEDENTED opposition to THE most hated man on the planet. :0)

Here's the kicker .. it won't be long before the republicans around him abandon him. His ignorance is already putting them in tough positions as he writes checks they can't cash. They never liked his ugly ass in the first place. Count on it.

Then it won't be long before it'll be hard to even find a Trump supporter and stupid ass threads like this will be truly laughable .. a monument to ignorance.
 
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AT you.

So now the Dems aren't needed? You need to blow that shit out your smoking.

:0) That's what all these idiots believe. They don't need anybody but themselves .. minority that they are.

Their fall is going to be real hard.
 
You're right this is hilarious. :0) Republicans talking about obstructionism is absolutely hilarious.

"Being who they are" got a moron like Trump elected.

Clinton's are gone .. fuck accommodation with republicans. Leave those bastards to flounder on their own. Every fuck up belongs to them alone.

Encourage Trump to build a wall, cry about dick size, spout alternate truths, and tweet all manner of stupid shit in the middle of the night. That's exactly what we want.

You think you're the only ones who know how to obstruct. :0) You knuckleheads ain't seen nothing yet .. and we've already seen UNPRECEDENTED opposition to THE most hated man on the planet. :0)

Here's the kicker .. it won't be long before the republicans around him abandon him. His ignorance is already putting them in tough positions as he writes checks they can't cash. They never liked his ugly ass in the first place. Count on it.

Then it won't be long before it'll be hard to even find a Trump supporter and stupid ass threads like this will be truly laughable .. a monument to ignorance.

you're all talk. lets see results, chump.
 
all you do is keep circlejerking about the promised land. It's all platitudes. What you think is confidence really just comes off as denial and desperation.

Show results. Don't be all talk. The republicans have never been so powerful in 80 years. They have the majority of state legislators, governorships, both houses of congress, the presidency, the supreme court, and the midterms are brutal for the dems, most dem senators are up for election in red states.
 
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