Democrats’ Census Scheme Has Changed the ‘Entire Balance of Power’

Speaking of criminal statues...

"And over the weekend that controversy reached beyond the South to California, where a statue of a Catholic saint, Rev. Junipero Serra, was vandalized in Los Angeles."

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https://www.americamagazine.org/pol...tue-defaced-amid-confederate-monuments-debate

Is vandalizing this religious statue OK with you?

Why would it be? It's the kind of thing expected from nutcases like your friends if not you, but perhaps with some other target.
 
Why would it be? It's the kind of thing expected from nutcases like your friends if not you, but perhaps with some other target.

Show us where me or my friends (or ANYONE on the right) vandalized ANY statues or monuments. It's you nutcases who are so "offended," not us.
 
A dumbfuck would be someone who assumes freedom of religion permits "religious" acts that violate criminal statutes.

You continue to be the dumbfuck here. There are all sorts of limits on things in the Constitution. You are severely restricted on owning automatic firearms, and have to undergo a background check to buy one now. Free speech is limited to where you cannot incite others to violence for example.

So, putting a limitation on the census that counts everyone, but illegals don't count in apportioning congressional seats--since they are not citizens and not represented by members of congress being foreign nationals--makes perfect sense.
 
You continue to be the dumbfuck here. There are all sorts of limits on things in the Constitution. You are severely restricted on owning automatic firearms, and have to undergo a background check to buy one now. Free speech is limited to where you cannot incite others to violence for example.

So, putting a limitation on the census that counts everyone, but illegals don't count in apportioning congressional seats--since they are not citizens and not represented by members of congress being foreign nationals--makes perfect sense.

Answering a comment that points out freedom of religion doesn't include committing statutory crimes, you reply that there are limits on the Constitution, and say you are not the dumbfuck.
 
Answering a comment that points out freedom of religion doesn't include committing statutory crimes, you reply that there are limits on the Constitution, and say you are not the dumbfuck.

According to you the Constitution is literal and inviolate when you want it to be, and not so when it goes against your point of view and what you want.
 
Show us where me or my friends (or ANYONE on the right) vandalized ANY statues or monuments. It's you nutcases who are so "offended," not us.

The left gets offended too easily but so does the right: one week they are offended by Bud Light ads, the next week it is Target, next is football players who kneel during the national anthem, next is the Barbie movie, something somebody said on the academy awards, gays on television.....
 
Answering a comment that points out freedom of religion doesn't include committing statutory crimes, you reply that there are limits on the Constitution, and say you are not the dumbfuck.

The Supreme Court exempts violations of statutory crimes if it causes no real harm. A couple used tape to cover up the "Live Free or Die" slogan on the NH license plate. This violated a law prohibiting obscuring any portion of the plate. The court ruled there was no harm because the purpose of the plate was identification of the vehicle. The numbers were still visible and police knew what was under the tape.

It has also exempted groups using peyote and Hoasco tea for religious ceremonies.

It exempts Amish from compulsory school attendance laws past 16 years of age. There is a potential harm for students to leave school at 16, but Amish have no crime or welfare recipients and therefore the harm is not present in that group.
 
You continue to be the dumbfuck here. There are all sorts of limits on things in the Constitution. You are severely restricted on owning automatic firearms, and have to undergo a background check to buy one now. Free speech is limited to where you cannot incite others to violence for example.

So, putting a limitation on the census that counts everyone, but illegals don't count in apportioning congressional seats--since they are not citizens and not represented by members of congress being foreign nationals--makes perfect sense.

Illegals DO count in apportioning seats, dumbfuck. The Constitution says NOTHING about citizenship. Congressmen represent EVERYONE in their district, not just citizens.

Changing that requires a Constitutional amendment, asswipe. Or are you too fucking stupid to realize that?
 
Illegals DO count in apportioning seats, dumbfuck. The Constitution says NOTHING about citizenship. Congressmen represent EVERYONE in their district, not just citizens.

Changing that requires a Constitutional amendment, asswipe. Or are you too fucking stupid to realize that?

Why should they? They aren't US citizens. They aren't even supposed to be in the country. Explain why illegals, who are criminal foreign nationals, should be counted as part of the apportionment for congressional seats.

The Constitution says nothing about automatic firearms and machineguns either, but those are regulated.

By your claims, congressmen represent people in France and China who happen to be visiting their district. That is the most absurd and stupid thing anyone's proposed on this board in at least days. But then again, the Left is pretty fucking stupid.
 
Why should they? They aren't US citizens. They aren't even supposed to be in the country. Explain why illegals, who are criminal foreign nationals, should be counted as part of the apportionment for congressional seats.

The Constitution says nothing about automatic firearms and machineguns either, but those are regulated.

By your claims, congressmen represent people in France and China who happen to be visiting their district. That is the most absurd and stupid thing anyone's proposed on this board in at least days. But then again, the Left is pretty fucking stupid.

The left did not write the provision in the 14th Amendment to include "the whole number of persons in each state excluding Indians not taxed." This provision has not been altered in our history by either the left or right when in office.

All constitutional rights apply to both citizens and non-citizens because they restrict what the government can to. If the government cannot abridge freedom of speech, that would apply to everybody. You cannot restrict free speech for non-citizens but not citizens.
 
The left did not write the provision in the 14th Amendment to include "the whole number of persons in each state excluding Indians not taxed." This provision has not been altered in our history by either the left or right when in office.

All constitutional rights apply to both citizens and non-citizens because they restrict what the government can to. If the government cannot abridge freedom of speech, that would apply to everybody. You cannot restrict free speech for non-citizens but not citizens.

So, noncitizens have a right to vote do they?
 
So, noncitizens have a right to vote do they?

That is not a constitutional right. The Constitution gives states the power to determine voter qualifications. So, based on the state, at one time women could not vote, only property owners could vote, race, voting age and residency varied by state, etc.

Today, it has almost become universal as constitutional amendments and court decisions have eliminated some of the restrictions to voting.

In about 1994 Congress required citizenship for voting in federal elections, but there are many local jurisdictions that allow non-citizens to vote.

So, as voting has almost become universal it has essentially become a constitutional right, but not based on the original Constitutional structure.

By constitutional rights I essentially meant the Bill of Rights.
 
That is not a constitutional right. The Constitution gives states the power to determine voter qualifications. So, based on the state, at one time women could not vote, only property owners could vote, race, voting age and residency varied by state, etc.

Today, it has almost become universal as constitutional amendments and court decisions have eliminated some of the restrictions to voting.

In about 1994 Congress required citizenship for voting in federal elections, but there are many local jurisdictions that allow non-citizens to vote.

So, as voting has almost become universal it has essentially become a constitutional right, but not based on the original Constitutional structure.

By constitutional rights I essentially meant the Bill of Rights.

So, by your estimate, anyone can or should be allowed to vote in US elections...
 
So, by your estimate, anyone can or should be allowed to vote in US elections...

I said nothing to indicate that. I was explaining the constitutional origins. States determined voting qualifications and then after 1996 Congress required citizenship in federal elections. I would favor all states requiring citizenship for state and local elections.
 
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