Democrats and gas prices
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ZenMode
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Gas is not cheaper than post-covid.
I'm paying $5 a gallon because we had a nuclear agreement in place with Iran, Trump tore it up, then spent $200 billion to attack Iran, they closed the strait of Hormuz and now we have to offer them a deal, where we have to ask them to reopen the straight of hormuz and, once again, enter a new agreement to not develop nukes?
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ZenMode
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Which part of my "story" is inaccurate?
ZenMode
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- I'm paying $5 a gallon
- I live in Maricops county where the average price is $4.91: Link
- because we had a nuclear agreement in place with Iran,
- Trump tore it up,
- then spent $200 billion to attack Iran,
- they (Iran) closed the strait of Hormuz
- and now we have to offer them a deal, where we have to ask them to reopen the straight of hormuz and, once again, agree to not develop nukes?
Tomorrow marks the official start of Spring and prices at the pump continued to climb by 28 cents since last week. With the Spring equinox ushering in warmer weather and more time on the road, gas prices are trending upward alongside seasonal demand.
https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=AZ
Trump withdrew from the JCPOA in 2018.
Trump signed a presidential memorandum ending US participation and restarting sanctions. The phrase “Trump tore up” (or “ripped up”) the deal is rhetorical language commonly used by critics of the withdrawal—such as Democrats, European leaders, Iranian officials, and some media—to dramatize the decision.
The JCPOA was never a purely bilateral US–Iran deal; the other parties initially tried to keep it alive after the US exit. Iran later began breaching its own commitments (starting in 2019), and the deal effectively collapsed in practice. The US withdrawal did not “end” the agreement for everyone else immediately, but it removed America’s involvement and sanctions relief.
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.go...-states-participation-unacceptable-iran-deal/
Good. Let's finish the job; whatever it takes. Iran must never be allowed to possess nuclear weapons.
By attacking unarmed merchant ships. I'm sure we could teach them the meaning of "freedom of the seas" if we wanted to.
https://www.npr.org/2026/03/04/nx-s...ait of Hormuz,blockade, but with cheap drones
Who told you we "have" to?
ZenMode
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Right, so everything I said is accurate.
Tomorrow marks the official start of Spring and prices at the pump continued to climb by 28 cents since last week. With the Spring equinox ushering in warmer weather and more time on the road, gas prices are trending upward alongside seasonal demand.
https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=AZ
Trump withdrew from the JCPOA in 2018.
Trump signed a presidential memorandum ending US participation and restarting sanctions. The phrase “Trump tore up” (or “ripped up”) the deal is rhetorical language commonly used by critics of the withdrawal—such as Democrats, European leaders, Iranian officials, and some media—to dramatize the decision.
The JCPOA was never a purely bilateral US–Iran deal; the other parties initially tried to keep it alive after the US exit. Iran later began breaching its own commitments (starting in 2019), and the deal effectively collapsed in practice. The US withdrawal did not “end” the agreement for everyone else immediately, but it removed America’s involvement and sanctions relief.
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.go...-states-participation-unacceptable-iran-deal/
Good. Let's finish the job; whatever it takes. Iran must never be allowed to possess nuclear weapons.
By attacking unarmed merchant ships. I'm sure we could teach them the meaning of "freedom of the seas" if we wanted to.
https://www.npr.org/2026/03/04/nx-s1-5736104/iran-war-oil-trump-israel-strait-hormuz-closed-energy-crisis#:~:text=The Iran war has effectively closed the Strait of Hormuz : NPR&text=LiveKQED Listen Live-,The Iran war has effectively closed the Strait of Hormuz,blockade, but with cheap drones
https://www.npr.org/2026/03/04/nx-s...ait of Hormuz,blockade, but with cheap drones
Nobody. It's what Trump is doing because he has no other good options for the situation he's gotten us into
Who told you we "have" to?
Think so?
Is Trump responsible for seasonal retail fluctuations on gasoline?
BTW, Gas Buddy says you can buy gas for $3.99 in your locale:
So you made it up.
So you say.
ZenMode
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I mean, if you're going to lie, there's no reason to have a discussion.
Yes, gas prices vary by location. Every station I passed this morning was right around $5 and it's not because of seasonal fluctuations. I've been through those for 30 years.
Nope. Trump HAS to make a deal be the has no other good options. If he did, he'd be utilizing those options.
Yes and provided support, as requested, for what I said.
Trump fucked this up badly.
I don't recall lying.
Gas Buddy says otherwise, doesn't it?
It's not? AAA it's a contributing factor.
I'll quote them again:
Tomorrow marks the official start of Spring and prices at the pump continued to climb by 28 cents since last week. With the Spring equinox ushering in warmer weather and more time on the road, gas prices are trending upward alongside seasonal demand.
So you say.
So you say.
Let's review. Scroll up and read.
So you say.
ZenMode
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I said Maricopa county. Sure, you can find rural gas stations that are below $5 and would likely be below $3 if not for the Iran war.
Let's test you honesty....
What do YOU think is the primary cause of recent rising gas prices?
Right.. you've got nothing.
I showed you Maricopa County prices from Gas Buddy.
The Shell station @ 709 W Southern Ave Phoenix, AZ had regular gas for $3.99 @ gallon an hour ago. Pretty sure that's not "rural".
Sahara Shell - 709 W Southern Ave - Phoenix, AZ - GasBuddy.com
Sahara Shell in Phoenix AZ Carries Regular, Midgrade, Premium, Diesel. Has Offers Cash Discount, C-Store, Air Pump, Payphone, ATM Check current gas prices and read customer reviews. Rated 3.4 out of 5 stars.
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There is no single cause. A variety of factors affect pricing.
1. Geopolitical conflict and oil supply disruptions from the U.S.-Israel-Iran war (primary and dominant factor)
- The conflict escalated at the end of February 2026 with U.S. and Israeli strikes on Iran, followed by Iranian retaliatory actions, including attacks on shipping in the Strait of Hormuz (a chokepoint carrying ~20% of global oil supply). This choked exports from major Persian Gulf producers, creating the largest oil supply disruption in recent history.
- Crude oil prices (WTI) surged ~43% (from ~$67 to $96+ per barrel; Brent hit ~$91–$120 at peaks), directly feeding into higher gasoline production costs. Retail prices rose in tandem as stations adjusted to replacement costs.
- This accounts for the bulk of the 90-cent/gallon jump since late February/early March and the ~$1/gallon rise from mid-February levels ($2.90 to $3.70+).
- Verifiable hyperlinks:
- Reuters (March 19, 2026 analysis): https://www.reuters.com/business/en...-war-began-headed-toward-4-gallon-2026-03-19/
- NYT (March 18, 2026): https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/18/upshot/gas-prices-lookup.html
- Forbes (March 20, 2026): https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapie...s-the-most-oil-so-why-are-gas-prices-surging/
- Additional context from CNBC/AAA-linked reporting: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/10/aaa-gas-prices-iran-affordability-trump.html
- Warmer weather and Spring Break travel boosted driving demand. U.S. gasoline demand rose notably (e.g., one weekly jump from 8.29 million to 9.24 million barrels per day).
- AAA explicitly ties recent weekly spikes (e.g., +35 cents in mid-March) to this seasonal uptick, which coincides with the post-winter driving surge.
- Verifiable hyperlinks:
- AAA (March 12, 2026 report): https://gasprices.aaa.com/rising-pump-prices-higher-gas-demand-as-spring-break-begins/
- AAA monthly archive with context: https://gasprices.aaa.com/2026/03/
- Domestic gasoline stocks declined (e.g., from 253.1 million to 249.5 million barrels in one reported week), even as crude inventories rose slightly. This reduced buffer amplified price pressure amid global disruptions.
- Some reports note temporary production dips or operational shifts during the period.
- Refiners began switching to more expensive summer-formulation gasoline (required in many areas for emissions compliance), which reduces supply slightly and raises costs during the annual changeover. This was already underway before the war but compounded the spike.
- Despite the U.S. being the world's top oil producer, gasoline prices are set globally. Crude is exported and traded on world markets, so Persian Gulf disruptions raise replacement costs everywhere. Retailers quickly pass through wholesale spikes ("rockets and feathers" effect: prices rise fast on cost increases).
- Verifiable hyperlink: Forbes explainer: https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapie...s-the-most-oil-so-why-are-gas-prices-surging/
These factors are cross-verified across government data (EIA), industry trackers (AAA, GasBuddy), and major news outlets.
Prices remain volatile and could climb further if disruptions persist (some analysts flagged $4+/gallon risks). For the most current weekly EIA data, see: https://www.eia.gov/petroleum/gasdiesel/.
ZenMode
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I showed you Maricopa County prices from Gas Buddy.
The Shell station @ 709 W Southern Ave Phoenix, AZ had regular gas for $3.99 @ gallon an hour ago. Pretty sure that's not "rural".
Sahara Shell - 709 W Southern Ave - Phoenix, AZ - GasBuddy.com
Sahara Shell in Phoenix AZ Carries Regular, Midgrade, Premium, Diesel. Has Offers Cash Discount, C-Store, Air Pump, Payphone, ATM Check current gas prices and read customer reviews. Rated 3.4 out of 5 stars.
I'll do this as a separate post since you are apparently dedicated to being dishonest:
Gas Prices in Phoenix, AZ - 1567 Stations | Real-Time Fuel Prices | PumpPrices.org
Compare gas prices at 1567 stations across Phoenix, AZ. Find the cheapest regular, mid-grade, premium, and diesel fuel. Save up to $0.75/gallon with real-time price updates across 5 major areas.
ZenMode
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I showed you Maricopa County prices from Gas Buddy.
The Shell station @ 709 W Southern Ave Phoenix, AZ had regular gas for $3.99 @ gallon an hour ago. Pretty sure that's not "rural".
Sahara Shell - 709 W Southern Ave - Phoenix, AZ - GasBuddy.com
Sahara Shell in Phoenix AZ Carries Regular, Midgrade, Premium, Diesel. Has Offers Cash Discount, C-Store, Air Pump, Payphone, ATM Check current gas prices and read customer reviews. Rated 3.4 out of 5 stars.
There is no single cause. A variety of factors affect pricing.
Sorry, no straw man allowed.
I asked what you think is the PRIMARY cause of the recent increase in gas prices.
