Define a 'Liberal' or a 'Conservative'

DamnYankee said:
No, the fact that you could "get it up" for a female but instead chose a male proves that you simply made a choice- which you already admitted and can't take back.

Many types of ancestries have kinky hair, not just Africans, and as you pointed out some Africans have straight or wavy hair. This disproves your assertion.
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I know revisionism is in your DNA...but you don't define reality for me. Thank you, but no thanks. That's the problem with you conservatards...you think your way is "the way". It's the way for you. But your arrogance leads you to believe you know best. You do not.
A man does for me, what a woman could never do. That lets me know, which direction my weather vane points. Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of "My" Happiness, not yours. I suppose I could "choose" to be with a woman...but if I was doing it for reasons other than love, or happiness, then it would be wrong as wrong could be. If a man touched you in your privates, and you got an unexpected "rise", would you interpret it as "a choice"?

And we weren't talking about "not just Africans", if you followed the context, you yourself made. Now you want to backpedal, because I exposed your racism. No, sugarpot.....own up to your own words. It's ok. When you choose to give up your racism, others will follow suit.
 
Superfreak said:
Without basis? LMAO..... your words.... "not two deviants who adopt kids or squirt semen up themselves with turkey basters. "

Calling gay people 'deviants' is your attempt to dehumanize them. To make them a second class citizen. To demean them. That makes you a bigot.

Your comments on 'protecting traditional marriage' while failing to show how a gay marriage would 'weaken' society shows you are simply AFRAID. Since you are afraid of homosexuals, that makes you a homophobe.
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1. Deviancy is a statistical term. If you find it offensive then deal with it.
2. See my previous post.

*shrug*
 
poet said:
I know revisionism is in your DNA...but you don't define reality for me. Thank you, but no thanks. That's the problem with you conservatards...you think your way is "the way". It's the way for you. But your arrogance leads you to believe you know best. You do not.
A man does for me, what a woman could never do. That lets me know, which direction my weather vane points. Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of "My" Happiness, not yours. I suppose I could "choose" to be with a woman...but if I was doing it for reasons other than love, or happiness, then it would be wrong as wrong could be. If a man touched you in your privates, and you got an unexpected "rise", would you interpret it as "a choice"?

And we weren't talking about "not just Africans", if you followed the context, you yourself made. Now you want to backpedal, because I exposed your racism. No, sugarpot.....own up to your own words. It's ok. When you choose to give up your racism, others will follow suit.
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1. You've just proven my point, that you made a choice.
2. You don't know what I was referring to, and are merely assuming, based on your preconceptions. This shows your bigotry, not mine.
 
DamnYankee said:
No, the fact that you could "get it up" for a female but instead chose a male proves that you simply made a choice- which you already admitted and can't take back.

Many types of ancestries have kinky hair, not just Africans, and as you pointed out some Africans have straight or wavy hair. This disproves your assertion.
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A preference when it comes to sex is something that comes NATURALLY to a person.
 
DamnYankee said:
One has to prove an assertion, which is what you need to do in order to establish truth.
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Uh, I prefer to believe the take of Dr. Ron Smothermon, author of Winning through Enlightenment, who writes, "Judgements(assertions) are never truth. If you're in the process of dealing with truth, judgements are not necessary. Judgements, you see, are substitutes for what is when you do not care to deal with what is.
If something is true it just is, and it doesn't even care if you notice or not. The universal laws that run the universe and life within it have not been placed into being by judgements of the mind. They just are, and when you are awake and attentive they present themselves to you and you notice them. You don't have to figure them out. You are not your mind. You contain a mind which is available for observation when you are willing to be conscious. You are infinitely more than your mind. If you don't get this point (and you, obviously don't) you can become stuck in the pride which is attached to your judgements; you will develop a belief that you are your judgements and you will not have observership of your mind and the judgements that it contains.
Transcend your judgements by being responsible for them."

I fear this will prove to be too deep for you to process, limited as you are.
 
DamnYankee said:
1. I don't have to. I have shown that traditional marriage makes society stronger.
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yes, you DO have to. You made the claim that gay marriage would WEAKEN traditional marriages. Therefore you are indeed required to provide evidence of such.

2. All caps is the text equivalent of yelling. If you want to emphasize you point, you should italicize it. If you want to emphasize a point in someone else's quote, you should bold it. Don't use the excuse that you are lazy when the fact is that you either don't know English style or are yelling and having a hissy fit.
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I informed you as to why I use the caps. I could care less what your opinion is of my doing so.

3. Again the yelling, and again the baseless allegations. The NC State legislature just voted by super-majorities to ban same sex marriage. Are they all bigots and homophobes as well? How about the majority of Californians in 2010? Face it, Freak, you're losing this debate so are trying to use ad-homs to quash it.
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No, I showed your comments that show it to be true. Therefore it cannot be a baseless allegation. yes, it is a bigoted position to take. Regardless of who takes it. Majority opinion does not make it correct. Majorities once thought the earth was flat, majorities once thought blacks should be counted as 3/5 human, majorities once thought slavery was ok, majorities once thought women shouldn't have the right to vote, majorities once thought global warming was man made. Those are but a few of the times the majority.... was wrong. Keep in mind... the majority also voted to elect Bush in 2004 and Obama in 2008.

4. Again, I have never brought up religion in this thread. You have, along with more baseless allegations and assumptions. :)
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You are basing your call of homosexuals as 'deviants' and that gay marriage would 'weaken traditional marriages' based on WHAT then? You have yet to explain WHAT you are basing your comments on. Your lack of response to repeated questions on this is why I state you are basing it on religion. If you are not, then provide us with the evidence you are using to support your position.
 
DamnYankee said:
1. You've just proven my point, that you made a choice.
2. You don't know what I was referring to, and are merely assuming, based on your preconceptions. This shows your bigotry, not mine.
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Against my nature? In that case, you could be with a man, but you choose women, instead. Isn't that right? It's got to work both ways.
And you're a moron, among other things.
 
DamnYankee said:
1. Deviancy is a statistical term. If you find it offensive then deal with it.
2. See my previous post.

*shrug*
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Social deviancy is defined by SOCIETY. It is what SOCIETY accepts as normal. It is ever changing based on the ever changing views of society. What used to be considered 'deviant' may not be considered as such today. For many social 'deviancies' were defined as such due to FEAR and BIGOTRY. Inter-racial marriages were once considered 'deviant'. Many sexual positions between STRAIGHT couples were considered 'deviant'. Two actors sharing the same bed on TV was once considered 'deviant'.

In almost all of these cases the 'deviancy' was defined by those who wished to force THEIR religious views upon others.

Homosexuality is now accepted by the vast majority of the population as NORMAL and NATURAL behavior.

Only closed minded bigots still cling to their hatred.
 
poet said:
Uh, I prefer to believe the take of Dr. Ron Smothermon, author of Winning through Enlightenment, who writes, "Judgements(assertions) are never truth. If you're in the process of dealing with truth, judgements are not necessary. Judgements, you see, are substitutes for what is when you do not care to deal with what is.
If something is true it just is, and it doesn't even care if you notice or not. The universal laws that run the universe and life within it have not been placed into being by judgements of the mind. They just are, and when you are awake and attentive they present themselves to you and you notice them. You don't have to figure them out. You are not your mind. You contain a mind which is available for observation when you are willing to be conscious. You are infinitely more than your mind. If you don't get this point (and you, obviously don't) you can become stuck in the pride which is attached to your judgements; you will develop a belief that you are your judgements and you will not have observership of your mind and the judgements that it contains.
Transcend your judgements by being responsible for them."

I fear this will prove to be too deep for you to process, limited as you are.
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An appeal to authority is an argument from the fact that a person judged to be an authority affirms a proposition to the claim that the proposition is true.
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http://www.logicalfallacies.info/relevance/appeals/appeal-to-authority/
 
SmarterThanYou said:
yurt can be excluded from this, because you can't deny that is exactly what you want.
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She absolutely CAN deny that is what she wants...you have somehow gotten to the point where you actually believe the ridiculous hyperbole surrounding this topic.

"Liberals want Government to do EVERYTHING for them from birth do death?"

Can you hear yourself...do you not understand how patently ridiculous that allegation sounds to rational people?
 
poet said:
Originally Posted by DamnYankee


Ain't that about some bullshit? Traditional marriage? Please. With all the cheating, adultery, domestic violence, sexual abuse going on in "traditional families", nowadays, that would be a slap in the face to the institution, making a mockery of it, and providing much cynicism. Society doesn't take care of its' veterans, the elderly, the infirmed, children and women, and you have the audacity to cite marriage as society's obligation to protect. Such hypocrisy has forced me to make a cocktail, before 3:30 pm.
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Hear Hear!!

Well said my friend!

you hit the nail on the head with that post...it is absolutely SPOT ON!
 
Superfreak said:
yes, you DO have to. You made the claim that gay marriage would WEAKEN traditional marriages. ....

I informed you as to why I use the caps. I could care less what your opinion is of my doing so.

No, I showed your comments that show it to be true. Therefore it cannot be a baseless allegation. yes, it is a bigoted position to take. Regardless of who takes it. Majority opinion does not make it correct. Majorities once thought the earth was flat, majorities once thought blacks should be counted as 3/5 human, majorities once thought slavery was ok, majorities once thought women shouldn't have the right to vote, majorities once thought global warming was man made. Those are but a few of the times the majority.... was wrong. Keep in mind... the majority also voted to elect Bush in 2004 and Obama in 2008.

You are basing your call of homosexuals as 'deviants' and that gay marriage would 'weaken traditional marriages' based on WHAT then? You have yet to explain WHAT you are basing your comments on. Your lack of response to repeated questions on this is why I state you are basing it on religion. If you are not, then provide us with the evidence you are using to support your position.
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1. Where?
2. Its not my merely my opinion, but again, a standard English writing style:
http://www.google.com/search?q=dict...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a [About 1,800,000 results]
3. Your position is that 3/5 of the legislature in NC are bigots. Now prove it.
4. I've told you why I use the word deviant several times. How many more times do I need to tell you?
 
poet said:
Against my nature? In that case, you could be with a man, but you choose women, instead. Isn't that right? It's got to work both ways.
And you're a moron, among other things.
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1. No it doesn't You choose to be deviant; I choose to be normal.
2. Your insult merely shows that you are desperate in this debate. Prediction: Next, like an ostrich you'll pretend te threat to your beliefs doesn't exist and put me on ignore. :)
 
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