Define a 'Liberal' or a 'Conservative'

She's old enough, and it looks like you are the pervert here.

What YOU think I am like is of no concern, after all YOU think you know what Jesus was like and they say he died a long time ago so you could never have got to know him as well as you know me!

The more contact I have with you the more I realise it is time you came out of the closet. C'mon now, be honest with yourself, you are a gay bigot with an obsession with children.
Mwah mwah, kissy kissy. Do you kiss on two cheeks or all four?
 
I'm afraid you have that wrong. 'Re' here is an intensifier and the 'pent' is from the same source as 'penal' from 'penetire' to regret. The meaning of repent and regret have moved apart in recent times but at one time they were synonymous. So 'repent' actually means 'to be sorry for sins or crimes'. Being sorry does not carry with it the concept of ceasing the behaviour for which one is sorry. That has been placed recently (possibly even since your own country was stumbled upon by the employees of the Bristol businessman of whom we have spoken before) and does not necessarily occur in other societies.
So when someone tells me to repent for my sins I might well answer that, a) in your context sin is a disobedience of your god's laws and thus is of no concern to me, and b) I will say I am sorry if you like but see no logical reason why I should cease what might give me pleasure since I am a free man and answer only to the laws of man.

I fear you are under the incorrect impression that the Bible was originally written in English and that this "best shot" at the meaning of the original word may not be exactly what was intended in the original writing. You will note that Jesus doesn't say, "Go forth and feel bad for sinning." He says, "Go forth and sin no more."

It is not enough to "feel bad"... That is even stupider than the original claim that admitting your sin was enough...

Anyway, the original greek word: metanoeo means (best translation) to change the mental pattern, to think 100% differently. Basically repenting isn't just feeling bad, it is changing the behavior.
 
Just curious is all. One of each would be sufficent. And TRY to avoid derogatory remarks boys and girls.

Todays Dem liberal is a communist. Nothing like the true meaning of the word, and,,,,,,

A conservative (to me) is a national socialist.

Both want a big government police state.

The bigger the government the better.

The true cancer to our constitution.
 
You seem to have hit a nerve with USFREEDOM911.

Fancy that.

OH-Please!! :)

The only "nerve" he's hit, is the one that's in my funny bone.
I take nothing he says seriously; because he's nothing but bigoted racist hypocrite, with an over blown sense of self importance.

:lol:
 
You seem to have hit a nerve with USFREEDOM911.

Fancy that.

I know....in Texas they have a saying, "That dog won't hunt". As far as Freedom911 is concerned, "that girl won't work". She's such a drama queen, and an attention whore.
 
I know....in Texas they have a saying, "That dog won't hunt". As far as Freedom911 is concerned, "that girl won't work". She's such a drama queen, and an attention whore.

Wouldn't that make you an attention slut, Mary; but then I digress. :)
 
I fear you are under the incorrect impression that the Bible was originally written in English and that this "best shot" at the meaning of the original word may not be exactly what was intended in the original writing. You will note that Jesus doesn't say, "Go forth and feel bad for sinning." He says, "Go forth and sin no more."

It is not enough to "feel bad"... That is even stupider than the original claim that admitting your sin was enough...

Anyway, the original greek word: metanoeo means (best translation) to change the mental pattern, to think 100% differently. Basically repenting isn't just feeling bad, it is changing the behavior.

You are entitled, as was Humpty Dumpty, to assign any meaning you wish to any word you care to use. I am merely pointing out that the word repent need not signify a change in behaviour.
It is the English that people in the US and UK tend to use for their bible and it is in English that they prosletyse. Therefore we should, for the purposes of this, take the actual meaning and understanding of the word in English. That means, since the language is ever evolving, that your understanding of the word may differ from the norm. You must take that into account.

You are certainly a fount of information. You mean to tell me the bible was not originally written in English, you'll be telling us next that Jesus wasn't English. My goodness, pass the whisky!
 
That is even stupider than the original claim that admitting your sin was enough...

In spite of your vast knowledge, you are obviously somewhat ignorant of Catholism, otherwise you wouldn't have translated confess sins into admit sins.



(Ab = from; solvere = to free)
Absolution is the remission of sin, or of the punishment due to sin, granted by the Church. (For remission of punishment due to sin, see CENSURE, EXCOMMUNICATION, INDULGENCE.) Absolution proper is that act of the priest whereby, in the Sacrament of Penance, he frees man from sin. It presupposes on the part of the penitent, contrition, confession, and promise at least of satisfaction; on the part of the minister, valid reception of the Order of Priesthood and jurisdiction, granted by competent authority, over the person receiving the sacrament. That there is in the Church power to absolve sins committed after baptism the Council of Trent thus declares: "But the Lord then principally instituted the Sacrament of Penance, when, being raised from the dead, He breathed upon His disciples saying, 'Receive ye the Holy Ghost. Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them, and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.' By which action so signal, and words so clear the consent of all the Fathers has ever understood that the power of forgiving and retaining sins was communicated to the Apostles, and to their lawful successors for the reconciling of the faithful who have fallen after baptism" (Sess. XIV, i). Nor is there lacking in divine revelation proof of such power; the classical texts are those found in Matthew 16:19; 18:18, and in John 20:21-23. To Peter are given the keys of the kingdom of heaven. Sin is the great obstacle to entrance into the kingdom, and over sin Peter is supreme. To Peter and to all the Apostles is given the power to bind and to loose, and this again implies supreme power both legislative and judicial: power to forgive sins, power to free from sin's penalties. This interpretation becomes more clear in studying the rabbinical literature, especially of Our Lord's time, in which the phrase to bind and to loose was in common use. (Lightfoot, Horæ Hebraicæ Buxtorf, Lexicon Chald.; Knabenbauer, Commentary on Matthew, II, 66; particularly Maas, St. Matthew, 183, 184.) The granting of the power to absolve is put with unmistakable clearness in St. John's Gospel: "He breathed upon them and said, 'Receive ye the Holy Ghost. Whose sins ye shall forgive they are forgiven them; and whose sins ye shall retain, they are retained'" (20:22-23). It were foolish to assert that the power here granted by Christ was simply a power to announce the Gospel (Council of Trent, Sess. XIX, Can. iii), and quite as unwise to contend that here is contained no power other than the power to remit sin in the Sacrament of Baptism (Ibid., Sess. XIV); for the very context is against such an interpretation, and the words of the text imply a strictly judicial act, while the power to retain sins becomes simply incomprehensible when applied to baptism alone, and not to an action involving discretionary judgment. But it is one thing to assert that the power of absolution was granted to the Church, and another to say that a full realization of the grant was in the consciousness of the Church from the beginning. Baptism was the first, the great sacrament, the sacrament of initiation into the kingdom of Christ. Through baptism was obtained not only plenary pardon for sin, but also for temporal punishment due to sin. Man once born anew, the Christian ideal forbade even the thought of his return to sin. Of a consequence, early Christian discipline was loath to grant even once a restoration to grace through the ministry of reconciliation vested in the Church. This severity was in keeping with St. Paul's declaration in his Epistle to the Hebrews: "For it is impossible for those who were once illuminated, have tasted also the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, have moreover tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come and are fallen away, to be renewed again to penance" etc. (vi, 4-6). The persistence of this Christian ideal is very clear in the "Pastor" of Hermas, where the author contends against a rigorist school, that at least one opportunity for penance must be given by the Church (III Sim., viii, 11). He grants only one such chance, but this is sufficient to establish a belief in the power of the Church to forgive sins committed after baptism. St. Ignatius in the first days of the second century seemingly asserts the power to forgive sins when he declares in his letter to the Philadelphians that the bishop presides over penance. This tradition was continued in the Syrian Church, as is evident from passages found in Aphraates and Ephrem, and St. John Chrysostom voices this same Syrian tradition when he writes "De Sacerdotio" (Migne P.G., LXVII, 643), that "Christ has given to his priests a power he would not grant to the angels, for he has not said to them, 'Whatsoever ye bind, will be bound,'" etc.; and further down he adds, "The Father hath given all judgment into the hands of his Son, and the Son in turn has granted this power to his priests."
 
You're the one fantasizing. And I'm selling nothing...but like a crack addict, you keep coming back for more.

Sure dude. You keep imagining me 'on your dick' but you're not fantasizing. Along with you imagining that homosexuality isn't a sin the comedy level here this morning is at an all time high. :)
 
What YOU think I am like is of no concern, after all YOU think you know what Jesus was like and they say he died a long time ago so you could never have got to know him as well as you know me!

The more contact I have with you the more I realise it is time you came out of the closet. C'mon now, be honest with yourself, you are a gay bigot with an obsession with children.
Mwah mwah, kissy kissy. Do you kiss on two cheeks or all four?

Dude you have lost it. I know what Jesus is like because he' with me right now; always has been and always will be. Your baseless psycho-babble theories must be your imagination, like your friend Poet's, run wild.
 
Sure dude. You keep imagining me 'on your dick' but you're not fantasizing. Along with you imagining that homosexuality isn't a sin the comedy level here this morning is at an all time high. :)

Uh, it's you that is caught up in semantics. I employed it as a metaphor. I'm a writer. You're thinking "reality". But then, you have "issues".
And? Where is the proof, from you that homosexuality, in and of itself is a sin? I have repeatedly supplied documentation to the contrary, but somehow, you believe that your word is supposed to trump mine. It does not. Further, Christ never spoke to the matter. If that weren't true, the authors of the claim would have been skewered and their credibility shot to hell. Leviticus, containing the Levitical Code, was a set of rules for the Hebrews (I'm a Christian), to ensure their survival in a hostile land. Ironically, the rules don't even apply to Jews today. But you and others intent on demonizing gays and lesbians, resort to the passages in Leviticus, as if they were relevant and pertinent. Paul, whom some imagine to be a disgruntled repressed homosexual (I've provided documentation supporting that position) and misogynist, wrote letters (epistles) to the Romans, the Corinthians, the Thessalonians, the Galatians, the Ephesians, the Philippians, among others, imploring to change their ways, which included temple worship of local deities and the practice of temple prostitution (men and women). It's important to take into account, the world at that time, culture, tradition and religious practices. You want to use his condemnation of the temple practices as a blanket indictment against all gays and lesbians, which I and tens of millions of others choose not to believe. Our prerogative. You think homosexuality is a sin, and you're against it....don't indulge in homosexual practices, is what I say. But keep your commentary to yourself. I don't elaborate on what goes on in my world. Don't you.
 
Dude you have lost it. I know what Jesus is like because he' with me right now; always has been and always will be. Your baseless psycho-babble theories must be your imagination, like your friend Poet's, run wild.

Isn't that ironic. Lowaicue and I have found common ground, despite me being a confessed Christian, and him being an atheist. I consider him to be a friend, despite differences in our beliefs and even our races. You seem to think that Jesus, is your sole property, and that he isn't in the midst of everyone, even those who don't follow him. That is not the belief of a true Christian...so I question, how can you call yourself one. The only requirement for salvation is to believe that Christ died for our sins, and that I do. And no man can come between his promise. But you try everyday. Surely that is the gravest sin of all. More grave than homosexuality could ever be.
 
Uh, it's you that is caught up in semantics. I employed it as a metaphor. I'm a writer. You're thinking "reality". But then, you have "issues".
And? Where is the proof, from you that homosexuality, in and of itself is a sin? I have repeatedly supplied documentation to the contrary, but somehow, you believe that your word is supposed to trump mine. It does not. Further, Christ never spoke to the matter. If that weren't true, the authors of the claim would have been skewered and their credibility shot to hell. Leviticus, containing the Levitical Code, was a set of rules for the Hebrews (I'm a Christian), to ensure their survival in a hostile land. Ironically, the rules don't even apply to Jews today. But you and others intent on demonizing gays and lesbians, resort to the passages in Leviticus, as if they were relevant and pertinent. Paul, whom some imagine to be a disgruntled repressed homosexual (I've provided documentation supporting that position) and misogynist, wrote letters (epistles) to the Romans, the Corinthians, the Thessalonians, the Galatians, the Ephesians, the Philippians, among others, imploring to change their ways, which included temple worship of local deities and the practice of temple prostitution (men and women). It's important to take into account, the world at that time, culture, tradition and religious practices. You want to use his condemnation of the temple practices as a blanket indictment against all gays and lesbians, which I and tens of millions of others choose not to believe. Our prerogative. You think homosexuality is a sin, and you're against it....don't indulge in homosexual practices, is what I say. But keep your commentary to yourself. I don't elaborate on what goes on in my world. Don't you.
Dude, the Biblical references have been spelled out for you. Learn to read instead of writing your fantasies on a public message board. :)
 
Isn't that ironic. Lowaicue and I have found common ground, despite me being a confessed Christian, and him being an atheist. I consider him to be a friend, despite differences in our beliefs and even our races. You seem to think that Jesus, is your sole property, and that he isn't in the midst of everyone, even those who don't follow him. That is not the belief of a true Christian...so I question, how can you call yourself one. The only requirement for salvation is to believe that Christ died for our sins, and that I do. And no man can come between his promise. But you try everyday. Surely that is the gravest sin of all. More grave than homosexuality could ever be.

When did I say that Jesus was my sole property? When was this even inferred?

Your common ground with LowIQ is that you hate America, and obviously hate Christian truths. Like that wasn't predictable. Maybe he's on your dick, not someone who disagrees with you on everything. :)
 
Dude, the Biblical references have been spelled out for you. Learn to read instead of writing your fantasies on a public message board. :)

Sorry if I don't subscribe to every jot and tittle in The Bible. Only a fool would do so. God wasn't at the typewriter.
 
When did I say that Jesus was my sole property? When was this even inferred?

Your common ground with LowIQ is that you hate America, and obviously hate Christian truths. Like that wasn't predictable. Maybe he's on your dick, not someone who disagrees with you on everything. :)

I got your inference, even as you backpedal away from it now.

Hate America? No darling, hate what America has become. A racist, bigoted shell of a once great nation. And that's the thing about truths, Christian or otherwise...you can't change them to enforce your viewpoints onto others. Christ was all about tolerance...a virtue you and yours have no stomach for. Now he couldn't possibly be onto my dick, until you get off of it.
 
When did I say that Jesus was my sole property? When was this even inferred?

Your common ground with LowIQ is that you hate America, and obviously hate Christian truths. Like that wasn't predictable. Maybe he's on your dick, not someone who disagrees with you on everything. :)

I know you might see this as a challenge, but do at least TRY not to appear so stupid, dear boy.
 
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