Defense Of Marriage Act Ruled Unconstitutional By Second Federal Judge

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Haiku

Makes the ganglia twitch.
Finally...maybe this will go all the way to the top and our 'enlightened' Opus Dei Supreme Court will show it's true interests....again. (hint..their interests have nothing to do with the constitution)

OAKLAND, Calif. -- A second federal judge in California has struck down a law denying benefits to partners in a gay marriage.

Wilken says the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act violated constitutional standards when it denied federal benefits to same-sex spouses married under California law and barred domestic partners of state workers from long-term health coverage.

Wilken says both laws were based on what she calls "moral condemnation" of same-sex couples.

A San Francisco judge also declared the federal law unconstitutional in February in a separate case. That ruling is under appeal and will go before the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in September.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/25/defense-of-marriage-act-unconstitutional-_n_1545884.html
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Within 5 years (tops), gay marriage will be the law of the land. I can't wait for that day, if for no other reason than I'd love to piss off the religious reich.
 
This is another non-issue that is used to inflame the paint chip eaters...nothing more. Equal rights means just that...equal treatment under the law. The haters that spew their poison would target anyone who doesn't agree with them with barbed wire and starvation and feel 'godly' while doing it...fascists always do.
 
If anyone is spewing poison it is those who oppose gay marriage.

The fact is that gay marriage is being opposed either on religious grounds or because of a dislike of homosexuals. Neither is a valid reason to deny them the same benefits enjoyed by straight couples.
 
Haiku said:
This is another non-issue that is used to inflame the paint chip eaters...nothing more. Equal rights means just that...equal treatment under the law. The haters that spew their poison would target anyone who doesn't agree with them with barbed wire and starvation and feel 'godly' while doing it...fascists always do.
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Paint chip eaters!! I love that! :D
 
WinterBorn said:
If anyone is spewing poison it is those who oppose gay marriage.

The fact is that gay marriage is being opposed either on religious grounds or because of a dislike of homosexuals. Neither is a valid reason to deny them the same benefits enjoyed by straight couples.
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God hates fags. The bible tells them so.

:D

Sorry, but the idiocy of it is just hilarious to me...
 
WinterBorn said:
If anyone is spewing poison it is those who oppose gay marriage.

The fact is that gay marriage is being opposed either on religious grounds or because of a dislike of homosexuals. Neither is a valid reason to deny them the same benefits enjoyed by straight couples.
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Agreed...I thought that's what I said? *huh?* :0)
 
Bijou said:
God hates fags. The bible tells them so.

:D

Sorry, but the idiocy of it is just hilarious to me...
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Agree...it's hilarious on the face of it but when they refuse to enact anti-bullying laws etc. it turns ugly...they are not opposed to violence.
 
The Christian Taliban (a book I recommend by the way)...is the leader in this charge. They have very odd, strange and violent/dangerous beliefs that are being used here in the US and abroad...ie

Flame of Love Project: Margaret Poloma and the Templeton Foundation Mainstream the NAR

Bruce Wilson
Wed May 23, 2012 at 04:34:11 PM EST

"I wonder what new doors to evangelism might be opened in sophisticated, tolerant, politically correct America if Christians started expressing their faith by encouraging those who possessed artifacts of magic or unclean books to burn them publicly?" -- C. Peter Wagner, from The Book of Acts: A Commentary, 1994, Regal Books
"Our team took a strong stance against the witchcraft in the area... We burned piles of fetishes and saw many captives set free from the curses of the enemy they had invited unwittingly into their lives." -- December 2009 report from Heidi & Rolland Baker's IRIS Ministries team in Mozambique
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This May 2012, the monthly print issue of Christianity Today, founded by Billy Graham in 1956 and considered by some to be the leading evangelical magazine in America, ran a feature article on one of the New Apostolic Reformation's top female leaders, Heidi Baker, and even put Baker's picture on the May issue's front cover.

Is the New Apostolic Reformation an ideologically radical, possibly eliminationist movement that's deeply controversial even within conservative evangelical Christianity? Or, as suggested by a nationally promoted John Templeton Foundation-funded academic research project based out of the University of Akron, the Flame of Love Project, are the NAR's apostles and prophets "exemplars of Godly Love" who should be held up, before America, as behavioral role models?

New Apostolic Reformation doctrine teaches that followers of competing belief systems practice idolatry and witchcraft, and NAR leaders advise their followers to burn, smash, or otherwise destroy or dispose of books, art, and other objects associated with competing beliefs, such as Catholicism, Mormonism, Islam, Jehovah's Witnesses, Hinduism, eastern religions, Christian Science, native religions, and Baha'i.
While the NAR's "Spiritual Mapping" practices include the targeting and demonization of individuals identified as practicing witchcraft and sorcery, top NAR leaders have also engaged, on a global level, in demonizing LGBT citizens and are tied to an antigay crusade, in the African nation of Uganda, behind draconian pending legislation that, in its original form, proposed establishing the death penalty for "aggravated homosexuality" and three-year prison sentences for citizens who failed to report homosexual activity to police.

Godly Love, or 'Christian Jihad' ?

Some critics have compared the New Apostolic Reformation to the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Among these critics is Colonel Vaughn Doner, a leading strategist and architect of the modern American religious right who has renounced the political aspirations of the movement he helped create and, in his new book Christian Jihad: Neo-Fundamentalists and the Polarization of America, suggests that the NAR mirrors the strain of radical Islamic fundamentalism behind the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and states,

"While many fear the Islamic fundamentalists' plot to place the world under Islamic Law, the Sharia, most Americans may not know that Christian conservatives, long the dominant wing of the Republican Party, are increasingly falling under the spell of theocratic utopianism with its goal of establishing "God's Law" as the law of the land."
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C. Peter Wagner, possibly the NAR's leading theorist and widely credited as the most influential leader in the movement, has suggested that the 2011 tsunami which claimed the lives of upwards of 20,000 Japanese citizens might have occurred because of Japan's resistance to Christianity. Wagner traces his movement's "dominion" theology through R.J. Rushdoony, the intellectual father of the Christian Reconstructionism movement.

Rushdoony advocated a radical form of theocratic libertarianism "which would dramatically reduce the federal government and control society through enforcement of biblical law at the local and state levels".

Wagner also celebrates, as a model for "social transformation", the exploits of late-15th Century Dominican friar Girolamo Savonarola--known for his attempts to institute a utopian Christian political regime in Florence, Italy, his backing of legislation that would have punished homosexuality by burning at the stake, and his instigation of the "bonfire of the vanities", during which large numbers of "profane" objects, including books and fine art that by some reports included several paintings by the Renaissance master Botticelli, were gathered in great quantities and publicly set ablaze.

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http://www.talk2action.org/story/20...d_the_Templeton_Foundation_Mainstream_the_NAR
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These are the 'christians' that are most active in deconstructing our democracy and transforming it into a theocracy...they're very active in our government and military...nice people who like to smash things, target people, pray for other peoples deaths and insist we are a 'christian' nation. Burn any good books lately?
 
Haiku said:
Agree...it's hilarious on the face of it but when they refuse to enact anti-bullying laws etc. it turns ugly...they are not opposed to violence.
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i dont know why we need anti-bullying laws?

seems the extreme things bully's do are already against the law?

i.e. beating people up, etc

If you are talking about making it a crime to name call, well then, that's messed up.
 
KingofOwls said:
i dont know why we need anti-bullying laws?

seems the extreme things bully's do are already against the law?

i.e. beating people up, etc

If you are talking about making it a crime to name call, well then, that's messed up.
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We need them for the same reason we need anti-racist legislation and protective legislation for equal pay etc. I'm sure you're being sarcastic with your bolded statement because I seriously doubt you've ever heard anyone say anything like that.
 
Obviously its unconstitutional have you never heard of the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the Unites States Consitution?
 
Haiku said:
We need them for the same reason we need anti-racist legislation and protective legislation for equal pay etc. I'm sure you're being sarcastic with your bolded statement because I seriously doubt you've ever heard anyone say anything like that.
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you want to make a crime to be racist and a crime to name call?
 
It was still enacted by religious zealots and is being forced on states by very wealthy and loud constituents. It will end up in our less than blind Supreme Court...
 
Yurt said:
you want to make a crime to be racist and a crime to name call?
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You have a problem with reading comprehension? Where did I say that? You can be the biggest asshole in the world and as long as you don't force yourself on anyone or take away their rights no one cares. You'll spend a lot of time alone but hey, it's your choice.
 
Haiku said:
You have a problem with reading comprehension? Where did I say that? You can be the biggest asshole in the world and as long as you don't force yourself on anyone or take away their rights no one cares. You'll spend a lot of time alone but hey, it's your choice.
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do you know what a question mark is? did i say you said that? i <<ASKED>> if that is what you were saying. here is why i asked:

We need them for the same reason we need anti-racist legislation and protective legislation for equal pay etc. I'm sure you're being sarcastic with your bolded statement because I seriously doubt you've ever heard anyone say anything like that.
 
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