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Obama has been under enormous pressure from congressional Democrats to give ground on the cancellation issue under the health care overhaul, a program likely to be at the center of next year's midterm elections for control of the House and Senate.


It's unclear what the impact of Thursday's changes will be for the millions of people who have already had their plans canceled.


While officials said insurance companies will now be able to offer those people the option to renew their old plans, companies are not required to take that step.


Insurance companies will be required to inform consumers who want to keep canceled plans about the protections that are not included under those plans.


Customers will also be notified that new options are available offering more coverage and in some cases, tax credits to cover higher premiums.


Under Obama's plan, insurance companies would not be allowed to sell coverage deemed subpar under the law to new customers, marking a difference with legislation that House Republicans intend to put to a vote on Friday.



http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2013/1114/Obama-backpedals-on-canceled-health-insurance-plans
 
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While officials said insurance companies will now be able to offer those people the option to renew their old plans, companies are not required to take that step.
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What a mess.

Insurance companies signed up a passle of high-risk pre-existing condition customers on the basis that the costs would be spread out among other customers mandated to pay for a certain level of policy.

How can they now go back and offer the cheaper policy without going bankrupt?

Or was that the plan all along?
 
Taft2016 said:
What a mess.

Insurance companies signed up a passle of high-risk pre-existing condition customers on the basis that the costs would be spread out among other customers mandated to pay for a certain level of policy.

How can they now go back and offer the cheaper policy without going bankrupt?

Or was that the plan all along?
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If the old policies were profitable last year, what has changed to make them unprofitable this year. This is a boon for Insurance companies, they are going to be allowed to continue offering subpar policies.
 
Jarod said:
If the old policies were profitable last year, what has changed to make them unprofitable this year. This is a boon for Insurance companies, they are going to be allowed to continue offering subpar policies.
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Oh.

Did Obama say they no longer have to sign up expensive risky customers with pre-existing conditions? I must have missed that part.

If so, I stand corrected.
 
Taft2016 said:
What a mess.

Insurance companies signed up a passle of high-risk pre-existing condition customers on the basis that the costs would be spread out among other customers mandated to pay for a certain level of policy.

How can they now go back and offer the cheaper policy without going bankrupt?

Or was that the plan all along?
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BINGO! Someone who "gets" it.
 
After they already invested heavily in revamping their new offerings to meet Obamas' ridiculous mandates.

I smell a blame-shifting maneuver.
 
You want me said:
Obama has been under enormous pressure from congressional Democrats to give ground on the cancellation issue under the health care overhaul, a program likely to be at the center of next year's midterm elections for control of the House and Senate.


It's unclear what the impact of Thursday's changes will be for the millions of people who have already had their plans canceled.


While officials said insurance companies will now be able to offer those people the option to renew their old plans, companies are not required to take that step.


Insurance companies will be required to inform consumers who want to keep canceled plans about the protections that are not included under those plans.


Customers will also be notified that new options are available offering more coverage and in some cases, tax credits to cover higher premiums.


Under Obama's plan, insurance companies would not be allowed to sell coverage deemed subpar under the law to new customers, marking a difference with legislation that House Republicans intend to put to a vote on Friday.



http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2013/1114/Obama-backpedals-on-canceled-health-insurance-plans
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In other words; Obama was lying about ACA to sell it to gullible morons when he claimed we could keep or doctors and our plans. ;)
 
You want me said:
After they already invested heavily in revamping their new offerings to meet Obamas' ridiculous mandates.

I smell a blame-shifting maneuver.
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Bingo again!

Cancel 5 million cheaper policies, sign up new policies, cancel those policies, reissue the old policies, and do all of this without griping that administrative costs are interfering with paying costs of mandated pre-existing condition customers.

Liberals really do need a smack in the face to recognize the obvious.
 
Jarod said:
Yes!
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/3350707/We-did-it-with-eyes-why-not-with-ears.html

When 108-year-old Olive Beal was told she must wait 18 months for a new NHS hearing aid, it provoked a wave of righteous indignation across the country.

Her family pointed out that - given her age - realistically, she was unlikely to receive one. If ever a case seemed to beg for the application of a little common sense and stretching of rules, Olive's would seem to be it.

Instead, this former suffragette from Deal, Kent, has joined the half a million people waiting for hearing aids languishing on lists that are on average two years long, but can be as long as six years in some areas, including Edinburgh. The immediate crisis has been caused by a switch-over from supplying analogue devices to more reliable digital versions.

And it can only get worse: the Royal National Institute for the Deaf (RNID) suggests that another four million people would benefit from more aural assistance.

The queue is so long that the Government has excluded the hard of hearing from the 18-week target times for treatment on the NHS; and some hospitals won't include the figures in their reports for fear of distorting their otherwise creditable results.
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Or, as Obama suggested in his townhall meeting on the subject, we can just give the old lady an aspirin.
 
LOL, I suspect the 'Crats know that insurers who've already spent big dollars complying with Obamacares' mandates can't afford to pull an about-face because Obama moved the goalposts today.

Then they can point at the insurance companies and say "see, Obama didn't lie, it was THEM"...
 
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