Daniel Penny charged with manslaughter in Jordan Neely’s subway chokehold death

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Daniel Penny was arraigned on a second-degree manslaughter charge and released on bond Friday after he was filmed placing Jordan Neely in a fatal chokehold on a New York City subway train earlier this month.

Penny was released on $100,000 cash bond and ordered by New York City Supervising Judge Kevin McGrath to turn over his passport within 48 hours. Penny, who was seen exiting Manhattan Criminal Court at around 12:30 p.m., also signed a waiver of extradition and must seek permission from the court should he seek to leave the state, according to the district attorney’s office.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/05/12/daniel-penny-jordan-neely-charges-subway-death/
 
"Days after the incident, Penny, who authorities had not yet publicly identified, released a statement saying that he acted in self-defense after Neely “aggressively” threatened him and other passengers. In the three paragraphs released May 6 by his lawyers, Penny, a college student and Marine veteran, said that he “never intended to harm Mr. Neely and could not have foreseen his untimely death.”
 
If there's going to be a charge, manslaughter is the logical charge, IMO. Accidentally killing people is against the law... yes, even if they're homeless.
 
ZenMode said:
If there's going to be a charge, manslaughter is the logical charge, IMO. Accidentally killing people is against the law... yes, even if they're homeless.
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I do not thing it was about being homeless. From reports, people left the subway car because they felt threatened.
 
BidenPresident said:
I do not thing it was about being homeless. From reports, people left the subway car because they felt threatened.
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I've seen other people devaluing Neely because he's homeless and presumably has mental issues. I have no issue with passengers restraining someone who's acting very irradicably, but if you accidentally kill them, that's a problem.
 
ZenMode said:
If there's going to be a charge, manslaughter is the logical charge, IMO. Accidentally killing people is against the law... yes, even if they're homeless.
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Being homeless wasn't his crime or why he was killed dumbass. Why do you idiots always do that? Are you really that simple minded?
 
ZenMode said:
I've seen other people devaluing Neely because he's homeless and presumably has mental issues. I have no issue with passengers restraining someone who's acting very irradicably, but if you accidentally kill them, that's a problem.
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You just completely ignore the point to repeat the idiotic claim about the terrorists homelessness.
 
ZenMode said:
whether or not he's homeless is irrelevant from a legal perspective.
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Then stop mentioning it. He was a terrorist and someone got very sick of his antics. The system, which is supposed to protect people from terrorists like him, failed at their job. This falls on their heads.
 
Yakuda said:
Then stop mentioning it. He was a terrorist and someone got very sick of his antics. The system, which is supposed to protect people from terrorists like him, failed at their job. This falls on their heads.
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I don't think we have the same definition of "terrorist". Terrorists try to kill people... often as many people as possible. To my knowledge, Neely didn't try to kill anyone or even assault anyone on the day he was killed.
 
I've taken many, many subway rides in my life,

in multiple cities including my own,

and despite very real urges,

and also, especially when I was younger,

the very real capability to do so,

have managed to never,

at least to this point,

chocked a fellow passenger to death.



Where are my kudos?

Where's my tribute thread?

Why I am I subject to such non-recognition and lack of respect?

This is America.

Anybody who has forgone the opportunity to kill a fellow citizen
in America
deserves a lot more than I've received
for making that sacrifice. :innocent:
 
BidenPresident said:
Daniel Penny was arraigned on a second-degree manslaughter charge and released on bond Friday after he was filmed placing Jordan Neely in a fatal chokehold on a New York City subway train earlier this month.

Penny was released on $100,000 cash bond and ordered by New York City Supervising Judge Kevin McGrath to turn over his passport within 48 hours. Penny, who was seen exiting Manhattan Criminal Court at around 12:30 p.m., also signed a waiver of extradition and must seek permission from the court should he seek to leave the state, according to the district attorney’s office.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/05/12/daniel-penny-jordan-neely-charges-subway-death/
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Brandonpresident, why not just add this to one of the other OP's that you have created on this exact same topic?
 
ZenMode said:
I don't think we have the same definition of "terrorist". Terrorists try to kill people... often as many people as possible. To my knowledge, Neely didn't try to kill anyone or even assault anyone on the day he was killed.
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First killing isnt necessary to be a terrorist. Next he had in the past threatened and physically assaulted people and was threatening it again in the day he was killed. So misgendering a tranny is "violence" but physically assaulting people isn't?
 
Yakuda said:
First killing isnt necessary to be a terrorist. Next he had in the past threatened and physically assaulted people and was threatening it again in the day he was killed. So misgendering a tranny is "violence" but physically assaulting people isn't?
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Right, so on the day in question, he hadn't assaulted anyone that we know of. Using lethal force is perfectly reasonable IF there's a threat on your life, i.e. George Zimmerman. Choking someone to death who isn't threatening the life of anyone isn't, or shouldn't be, acceptable in a civilized society. Now, it's safe to say that Penny probably wasn't INTENDING to kill Neely, hence the charge of manslaughter:

the crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or otherwise in circumstances not amounting to murder.
 
ZenMode said:
Right, so on the day in question, he hadn't assaulted anyone that we know of. Using lethal force is perfectly reasonable IF there's a threat on your life, i.e. George Zimmerman. Choking someone to death who isn't threatening the life of anyone isn't, or shouldn't be, acceptable in a civilized society. Now, it's safe to say that Penny probably wasn't INTENDING to kill Neely, hence the charge of manslaughter:

the crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or otherwise in circumstances not amounting to murder.
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So you're saying that Penny just walked up to him and started choking him. Is that your claim?
 
ZenMode said:
No. I've never claimed that... as anyone can see if they just read my posts.
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No you wrote: "Using lethal force is perfectly reasonable IF there's a threat on your life..." Neely was well.knkwn to the people I t be subway. He had threatened and assaulted people in the past and was doing it so that day UNLESS youre claiming Penny just walked up to him and starting choking him
 
SmarterthanYou said:
a travesty of justice..............penny should be given a commendation, not criminal charges.
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He certainly should not have been charged..
He was protecting himself and others on the train from an obviously very disturbed man...
 
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