Dalai Lama says 'Germany cannot become an Arab country'

Staggering. Canute's ' objective description ' is written by one Avi Shlaim. How does it feel to be a well-sussed propagands pump, Canute ?


Now fuck off and kick a refugee.

The Israeli "new historians" are generally more honest about Israel's history than other historians.
 

2-3 children per a woman is still twice the German or UK birth rate. I'm mainly assuming it will go down in the future.

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You know, in Morocco the King applied no coercive measures to the Jews, at one point he even attempted an emigration ban in order to stop the brain drain. But almost all the Jews still left for Israel, and Morocco has almost no Jews today. I don't know why Israeli's have to invent this fantasy tale, that their mostly voluntary emigration to their stolen homeland was in anyway comparable to the forcible Palestinian nakba.
 
The Israeli "new historians" are generally more honest about Israel's history than other historians.

Certainly- but they lost the war;


The point is that the ' New Historians ' simply tell the truth that everybody already knows. They are not actually contributing in any way, shape or form to the withdrawal of the illegal neoZionist forces, military and paramilitary. They are yet more ' fence-squatters ' who actually still manage to spout lyrical about the curse of Zionism even while exposing the hardened Zionist establishment lie. Avi Schlaim's view could never be considered to be ' objective ' as Canute attempts to state. He's a Jewish Israeli national.

Canute;
Moonbat is ideologically driven, there is no way you can reason with those kind of zealots.

Canute hates his new transparency.
 
You know, in Morocco the King applied no coercive measures to the Jews, at one point he even attempted an emigration ban in order to stop the brain drain. But almost all the Jews still left for Israel, and Morocco has almost no Jews today. I don't know why Israeli's have to invent this fantasy tale, that their mostly voluntary emigration to their stolen homeland was in anyway comparable to the forcible Palestinian nakba.

The majority were forced out and others left voluntarily, it amounted to more than 800,00 people in total.
 
Certainly- but they lost the war;



The point is that the ' New Historians ' simply tell the truth that everybody already knows. They are not actually contributing in any way, shape or form to the withdrawal of the illegal neoZionist forces, military and paramilitary. They are yet more ' fence-squatters ' who actually still manage to spout lyrical about the curse of Zionism even while exposing the hardened Zionist establishment lie. Avi Schlaim's view could never be considered to be ' objective ' as Canute attempts to state. He's a Jewish Israeli national.

Canute;


Canute hates his new transparency.

I'm generally more towards the Palestinian side than the New Historians. A lot of New Historians, like Benny Morris, have moved pretty far to the right over time as well and now make statements that pretty much totally contradict their previous ones.
 
What Schlaim would never acknowledge, Book Purist , - and certainly not hasbara droogs such as Canute- is that the underpinning cause of the topic of this very thread- refugees- was the creation of the Israeli state and its consequent provocation of the world's Muslim populations, in particular Israel's Arab neighbors. Schlaim exposes the lie of Zionist ' history' but does nothing to put the genie back into the bottle.

Canute- as is evident- is a twat. He holds up Schlaim and the like as ' objective ' whilst simultaneously openly disagreeing with the facts that the New Historians expound. He's actually just a fucking nuisance in any serious debate- and takes pride in his intention to continue in that vein.
 
It will take a damn sight longer if their brightest and best are all in other countries. It took less than a generation to get Germany back up on its feet again after WW2.
well that's it..I should have used "inteligensia" instead of 'capabilities' -but that's it in a nutshell.
I'm sure there are patriots that would go back, but I'm just as sure others will not want to interrupt their western lives
 
You know, in Morocco the King applied no coercive measures to the Jews, at one point he even attempted an emigration ban in order to stop the brain drain. But almost all the Jews still left for Israel, and Morocco has almost no Jews today. I don't know why Israeli's have to invent this fantasy tale, that their mostly voluntary emigration to their stolen homeland was in anyway comparable to the forcible Palestinian nakba.

Yes well that's actually not true but nice story all the same.

THE PERSECUTION OF JEWS IN MOROCCO PRIOR TO 1948

The Jewish community of present-day Morocco dates back more than 2,000 years. There were Jews living there, before it became a Roman province. in 1032 AD, 6000 Jews were murdered. Indeed the greatest persecution by the Arabs towards the Jews was in Fez, Morocco, nothing was worse than the slaughter of 120,000 Jews in 1146 and before that In 1160 Maimonides in his Epistle concerning apostasy writes his fellow Jews: "Now we are asked to render the active homage to heathenism but only to recite an empty formula which the Moslems themselves knew we utter insincerely in order to circumvent the bigot ... indeed, any Jew who, after uttering the Muslim formula, wishes to observe the whole 613 precepts in the privacy of his home, may do so without hindrance.

Nevertheless, if, even under circumstances, a Jew surrenders his life for the sanctification of the name of God before men, he has done nobly and his reward is great before the Lord. But if a man asked me, "shall I be slain or utter the formula of Islam?" I answer, "utter the formula and live ... ". In 1391 a wave of Jewish refugees expelled from Spain brought new life to the community, as did new arrivals from Spain and Portugal in 1492 and 1497. From 1438, the Jews of Fez were forced to live in special quarters called mellahs, a name derived from the Arabic word for salt because the Jews in Morocco were forced to carry out the job of salting the heads of executed prisoners prior to their public display.

Chouraqui sums it up when he wrote: "such restriction and humiliation as to exceed anything in Europe". Charles de Foucauld in 1883 who was not generally sympathetic to Jews writes of the Jews: "They are the most unfortunate of men, every Jew belongs body and soul to his seigneur, the sid[Arab master]". Similarly, in 1465, Arab mobs in Fez slaughtered thousands of Jews, leaving only 11 alive, after a Jewish deputy vizier treated a Muslim woman in "an offensive manner." The killings touched off a wave of similar massacres throughout Morocco.

THE PERSECUTION OF JEWS IN MOROCCO AFTER 1948

In June 1948, bloody riots in Oujda and Djerada killed 44 Jews and wounded scores more. That same year, an unofficial economic boycott was instigated against Moroccan Jews. In 1956, Morocco declared its independence, and Jewish emigration to Israel was suspended. In 1963, emigration resumed, allowing more than 100,000 Moroccan Jews to reach Israel. In 1965, Moroccan writer Said Ghallab described the attitude of his fellow Muslims toward their Jewish neighbors:The worst insult that a Moroccan could possibly offer was to treat someone as a Jew....My childhood friends have remained anti-Jewish. They hide their virulent anti-Semitism by contending that the State of Israel was the creature of Western imperialism....A whole Hitlerite myth is being cultivated among the populace. The massacres of the Jews by Hitler are exalted ecstatically. It is even credited that Hitler is not dead, but alive and well, and his arrival is awaited to deliver the Arabs from Israel.

(Said Ghallab, "Les Juifs sont en enfer," in Les Temps Modernes, (April 1965), pp. 2247-2251. )

http://www.hsje.org/second_exodus/Jews Kicked out of Arab Lands Part 3.htm#.V1BgR-mHMRM
 
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