DACA.... Dreamers! Where do you stand?

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This is a hard thing for me.

On my troll twitter I definitely have spent the last week telling 17-25 year old illegals that they were getting shippied out, that ICE was coming for them, that they dont belong and they aren't real americans. I was really twisting the knife. It was fun and made me extremely happy to see their pain. I am sure I sent some into a deep depression when they realized many of us dont want them. They dont have rights here, so they should be thankful everyday that we LET them stay here. They must accept they did not earn their place, but were pardoned by us, the true americans.

There is a part of me that definitely would love to see the families torn apart, to see them shipped out, to see them crying and have their lives fucked beyond repair. They've been so arrogant, and they need that arrogance slapped the fuck out of them.

Also it's important to realize DACA will get feature creeped and it will back door 4 million more illegals. Because DACA parents are still illegal the next talking point will be that we can't send their parents home so they should get to stay too. I am continually insulted when people say it's just 800k. It's not. It's feature creep, and nipping it in the bud is important.

But then the other part of me is like . . . pick your battles. Who really cares. I wont lose sleep if they get to stay.

So I'm chaotic neutral maybe?
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But when Obama did it, you railed against it? Right?
 
Jarod said:
But when Obama did it, you railed against it? Right?
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What Obama did was illegal. While I oppose the policy at least Trump is doing it Constitutionally unlike your boy B Hussein Mugabe. Even your boy said he didn't have authority but he did it anyway.

Make no mistake I oppose making these shit birds legal
 
I Love America said:
What Obama did was illegal. While I oppose the policy at least Trump is doing it Constitutionally unlike your boy B Hussein Mugabe. Even your boy said he didn't have authority but he did it anyway.

Make no mistake I oppose making these shit birds legal
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Was it illegal when Reagan did it?
 
When Obama tried to work with the Republicans they refused... Democrats are not going to make that same mistake with Lump. We have a chance at getting some liberal agenda items passed.
 
' said:
This is a hard thing for me.

On my troll twitter I definitely have spent the last week telling 17-25 year old illegals that they were getting shippied out, that ICE was coming for them, that they dont belong and they aren't real americans. I was really twisting the knife. It was fun and made me extremely happy to see their pain. I am sure I sent some into a deep depression when they realized many of us dont want them. They dont have rights here, so they should be thankful everyday that we LET them stay here. They must accept they did not earn their place, but were pardoned by us, the true americans.

There is a part of me that definitely would love to see the families torn apart, to see them shipped out, to see them crying and have their lives fucked beyond repair. They've been so arrogant, and they need that arrogance slapped the fuck out of them.

Also it's important to realize DACA will get feature creeped and it will back door 4 million more illegals. Because DACA parents are still illegal the next talking point will be that we can't send their parents home so they should get to stay too. I am continually insulted when people say it's just 800k. It's not. It's feature creep, and nipping it in the bud is important.

But then the other part of me is like . . . pick your battles. Who really cares. I wont lose sleep if they get to stay.

So I'm chaotic neutral maybe?
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i like you.

Anywhoo so far we only have a daca repeal. I will reassess when more stuffz happen. So far i am happy.
 
Jarod said:
When Obama tried to work with the Republicans they refused... Democrats are not going to make that same mistake with Lump. We have a chance at getting some liberal agenda items passed.
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I have no problem with a little horse trading, hopefully each side gives a little and we can see some reults

current DACA stays / we get the wall

Middle class gets a tax cut / close loopholes for the rich

A form of Obamacare stays in place / but subsidies are limited or monitored more as to eligibility

on a side note did you know that there is currently no dental at all in Medicare?
maybe that could be addressed , I think seniors that have paid into the system should get basic dental hygene / check-ups
 
Getin the ring said:
I have no problem with a little horse trading, hopefully each side gives a little and we can see some reults

current DACA stays / we get the wall

Middle class gets a tax cut / close loopholes for the rich

A form of Obamacare stays in place / but subsidies are limited or monitored more as to eligibility

on a side note did you know that there is currently no dental at all in Medicare?
maybe that could be addressed , I think seniors that have paid into the system should get basic dental hygene / check-ups
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my supplemental, which costs $12 a month, covers basic dental hygiene......it also covers my monthly fees at the gym......so I saved $25 a month by paying $12 a month.......
 
Covfefe said:
Where is home for a 28 year old who was brought to the USA at the age of 2?
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Their fucking parents country of origin! What else would it be?

If a family of squatters is discovered in your home, are you going to let the kids stay because it wasn't their fault?
 
tinfoil said:
Their fucking parents country of origin! What else would it be?

If a family of squatters is discovered in your home, are you going to let the kids stay because it wasn't their fault?
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You don't know me very well, if they had children, I would
 
' said:
I think I am always right and you are sitting there as your normal mouthbreather self. I have multiple instances of trump being on record saying we are going to take care of the dreamers or we are going to look out for them. Repealing bad law does not make one auto racist or auto against the "dreamers". Your issue is the liberal echo chamber and circlejerk is so massive you believe he is the next hitler at every opportunity so when he does something sensible or compromises or strikes a deal you are blown away.
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Oh, you're such a sweet talker!
 
DACA.... Dreamers! Where do you stand?
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I think we are talking a mental illness here. And that's being kind. It is even within the realm of possibility we are talking about sociopaths; subhumans who are hopelessly unmoored from any kind of norms of human morality.

There is something really wrong with a person who spends a considerable amount of time thinking about, dreaming about the day the government is rounding up 19 year old kids who grew up here, came here through not fault of their own, and may have no tangible cultural connection to Mexico or El Salvador.

What makes it even more remarkable and creepy, is that one can sense these subhuman Trump-ettes are even almost giddy at the prospect of this roundup. That makes it something beyond the rule of law, something even sadistic and spiteful.

Holy smoke man, it would take teams of psychologists to unravel the sources of that twisted insanity....if they could even stomach doing it!
 
Jarod said:
When Obama tried to work with the Republicans they refused... Democrats are not going to make that same mistake with Lump. We have a chance at getting some liberal agenda items passed.
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Sure, let Pelousi bring it to the floor of the House. She better hurry
 
' said:
I think I am always right and you are sitting there as your normal mouthbreather self. I have multiple instances of trump being on record saying we are going to take care of the dreamers or we are going to look out for them. Repealing bad law does not make one auto racist or auto against the "dreamers". Your issue is the liberal echo chamber and circlejerk is so massive you believe he is the next hitler at every opportunity so when he does something sensible or compromises or strikes a deal you are blown away.
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I guess I'm not the only mouthbreather, this guy thinks he changed his stance as well.


He broke the DACA promise," says Dan Stein, president of Federation for American Immigration Reform, which advocates for lower immigration levels. "Are we happy about it? No," Stein said. "We think they should have allowed the work authorizations to expire. End of story, full stop."
http://www.npr.org/2017/06/16/53325...amers-to-stay-removes-protections-for-parents
 
Jarod said:
Does anybody really want to throw out good, educated and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serving in the military? Really!.....
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Point of order: Foreign nationals serving in the US Armed Forces already enjoy a fast track to citizenship. DACA has nothing to do with military service

Nobody is getting "thrown out" unless they violate the terms they agreed to when the were accepted in to the DACA program.

Congress must act. If they fail (as they have for decades) to pass a law confirming the status of so-called DREAMERs, then they will be subject to deportation on a case-by case basis.
 
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