Cuts for the Wealthy Have Resulted in Loss of a Million Jobs: It's Just Common Sense

The Dude said:
Dune u ass licker. Obama pays poor idiots like u a 2 yrs to sit home and smoke crack. The economy will pick up as soon as he leaves.
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Did you notice when your mental falculties vacated you?

I imagine it was long ago.

My mother calls your condition "premature senile dementia".
 
Good Luck said:
No doubt we should rid ourselves of much of the federal government - get it back to the levels intended for our constitutional federal government. I can easily imagine - and even use my votes in federal, state, and local elections to demand - a government without all the bureaucracies, departments, and programs that we should not have at the federal level. (state and local governments are another topic.)

But even if we were to pare it down to the basics, we would still have the need to fund the functions and expenses of the federal government. And funding it means taxation.

I don't know why you believe income taxes to be Marxist. That claim simply does not hold water. I assume you are speaking specifically of the Marxist ideal of redistribution of wealth? (I cannot think of any other way Marxism could possibly apply to income tax). If so, even with a deliberately progressive income tax, it would not be Marxist simply through the collection of taxes by ANY means. What constitutes (or does not) Marxism from government, in relation to taxes, comes about by how those taxes are used, not in how they are collected. When taxes are used to support entitlement programs for the poor, THAT is redistribution of wealth (Marxism), even if taxes are derived from consumption taxes. Conversely, how is using income taxes to build the infrastructure for which the federal government is constitutionally responsible, and paying for the components of national defense for which the federal government is constitutionally responsible, any more "Marxist" than using some type of consumption tax to achieve the same ends?
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What does this represent Good Luck:

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc.






Income tax is as big an issue as Obamcare.
 
Return of Dune said:
Did you notice when your mental falculties vacated you?

I imagine it was long ago.

My mother calls your condition "premature senile dementia".
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Dude,,,, you really shouldn't be living with your mother.

Let us know when you get a wife and kids,,,, and pay taxes.

You might start making sense.
 
Liberty said:
What does this represent Good Luck:

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc.






Income tax is as big an issue as Obamcare.
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Anyone can come up with a list of those economic policies which lead to Marxist socialism. Not everyone agrees that ALL income tax systems fall under the "heavy progressive or graduated" heading on the list. For instance, a flat tax is, by definition, not progressive, and if we get spending down where it belongs, neither would it be heavy.

So please explain, how an income tax is any MORE Marxist than a consumption (sales) tax?

And WTF is with #10?
 
Bush wanted tax cuts.


Bush promised jobs and prosperity.


Bush got tax cuts.


Where are the jobs?
 
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