Cornel West to Anderson Cooper on CNN: America is a Failed Social Experiment

Jack said:
I hope people understood what this guy was saying.
It doesn't matter what color or ethnicity the Billionaire, the Ownership Class has a common goal of 'making money off the Working Class'.
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The yearning to exploit our fellow man is a well known part of the human condition.

The Enlightenment Thinkers who were sure that greed could be encouraged and then harnessed were dreadfully wrong.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Ya?
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The Ownership Class/Donor Class elects their Agents (Congresspeople) to forward their Agenda.
(Tax Cuts and Importation of Third World Labor seem to be some of the favorite Legislation, along with 'Corporations are People')
 
Jack said:
The Ownership Class/Donor Class elects their Agents (Congresspeople) to forward their Agenda.
(Tax Cuts and Importation of Third World Labor seem to be some of the favorite Legislation, along with 'Corporations are People')
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I do not follow this but this I know....Greed is one of the blood lusts....unleash it and feed it only if you have a death wish.

The men of the Enlightenment were too often hopelessly naive.

Perhaps at root the problem was not listening to women.

JUST WONDERING
 
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Jack said:
The Ownership Class/Donor Class elects their Agents (Congresspeople) to forward their Agenda.
(Tax Cuts and Importation of Third World Labor seem to be some of the favorite Legislation, along with 'Corporations are People')
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plutocracy
[plo͞oˈtäkrəsē]
NOUN

government by the wealthy.
"the attack on the Bank of England was a gesture against the very symbol of plutocracy"
a country or society governed by the wealthy.
"no one can accept public policies which turn a democracy into a plutocracy"
an elite or ruling class of people whose power derives from their wealth.
"officials were drawn from the new plutocracy"
 
Bill said:
plutocracy
[plo͞oˈtäkrəsē]
NOUN

government by the wealthy.
"the attack on the Bank of England was a gesture against the very symbol of plutocracy"
a country or society governed by the wealthy.
"no one can accept public policies which turn a democracy into a plutocracy"
an elite or ruling class of people whose power derives from their wealth.
"officials were drawn from the new plutocracy"
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Agreed.
 
Cohort said:
so to recap.

I said trump said that the white supremacists and neo nazis should be totally condemned.

you then said I lied.

I then showed you the direct quote of him saying that, literally sentences after the line you were quoting.
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His administration’s actions don’t support his words. Bannon is returning to his campaign and Stephen Miller is still his trusted adviser. Actions speak louder than words.
 
Jack said:
I hope people understood what this guy was saying.
It doesn't matter what color or ethnicity the Billionaire, the Ownership Class has a common goal of 'making money off the Working Class'.
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This article sums it up...

The Middle Class is not “Normal”
Apr. 16, 2014

There’s nothing “normal” about having a middle class. Having a middle class is a choice that a society has to make, and it’s a choice we need to make again in this generation, if we want to stop the destruction of the remnants of the last generation's middle class. Despite what you might read in the Wall Street Journal or see on Fox News, capitalism is not an economic system that produces a middle class. In fact, if left to its own devices, capitalism tends towards vast levels of inequality and monopoly. The natural and most stable state of capitalism actually looks a lot like the Victorian England depicted in Charles Dickens’ novels.

At the top there is a very small class of superrich. Below them, there is a slightly larger, but still very small, "middle" class of professionals and mercantilists - doctor, lawyers, shop-owners - who help keep things running for the superrich and supply the working poor with their needs. And at the very bottom there is the great mass of people - typically over 90 percent of the population - who make up the working poor. They have no wealth - in fact they're typically in debt most of their lives - and can barely survive on what little money they make.

So, for average working people, there is no such thing as a middle class in “normal” capitalism. Wealth accumulates at the very top among the elites, not among everyday working people. Inequality is the default option.

You can see this trend today in America. When we had heavily regulated and taxed capitalism in the post-war era, the largest employer in America was General Motors, and they paid working people what would be, in today's dollars, about $50 an hour with benefits. Reagan began deregulating and cutting taxes on capitalism in 1981, and today, with more classical "raw capitalism," what we call "Reaganomics," or "supply side economics," our nation's largest employer is WalMart and they pay around $10 an hour.

This is how quickly capitalism reorients itself when the brakes of regulation and taxes are removed - this huge change was done in less than 35 years. The only ways a working-class "middle class" can come about in a capitalist society are by massive social upheaval - a middle class emerged after the Black Plague in Europe in the 14th century - or by heavily taxing the rich.

We now have a choice in this country. We can either continue going down the road to oligarchy, the road we’ve been on since the Reagan years, or we can choose to go on the road to a more pluralistic society with working class people able to make it into the middle class. We can't have both.

And if we want to go down the road to letting working people back into the middle class, it all starts with taxing the rich. The time is long past due for us to roll back the Reagan tax cuts.
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It's just common sense!

The entire article at the link...
https://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2014/04/middle-class-not-“normal”
 
Cinnabar said:
Anderson Cooper interviewed Dr. Cornel West regarding the broader George Floyd story. And what Dr. West said was crucial: American capitalism has failed to provide justice and dignity for working-class and Black Americans, and the current instability is a result of that.
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Nor does any other economic system. Certainly capitalism has done a much better job than China, Cuba, or North Korea. Those nations have greater equality, but it is at a very low level. It is easy to be equal when everyone is poor.
 
Flash said:
Nor does any other economic system. Certainly capitalism has done a much better job than China, Cuba, or North Korea. Those nations have greater equality, but it is at a very low level. It is easy to be equal when everyone is poor.
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No, it is not. There are many nations with fabulous wealth and power at the top with the people dirt poor. Some of the richest people in the world are in Mexico.https://www.forbes.com/billionaires/
 
Cinnabar said:
Anderson Cooper interviewed Dr. Cornel West regarding the broader George Floyd story. And what Dr. West said was crucial: American capitalism has failed to provide justice and dignity for working-class and Black Americans, and the current instability is a result of that.

Spot on.
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Uh-uh. The democrat party has failed to provide justice and dignity for working-class and Black Americans, and the current instability is a result of that.

 
Nordberg said:
No, it is not. There are many nations with fabulous wealth and power at the top with the people dirt poor. Some of the richest people in the world are in Mexico.https://www.forbes.com/billionaires/
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Very true, but that makes up a small percent of the population. That same thing is true in communist nations for the party elite. But most of the population is very poor (and therefore "equal"). Mexico had a growing middle class.

My main point is that capitalism provided just as much (or little) "justice and dignity for working-class and Black Americans" than any other economic system.
 
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