Contract Killing

Phyllis Diller said:
Scott said:
That'd be because I don't believe that abortions qualify as a subset of contract killings.

I don't know of any leftists that support contract killings, keeping in mind my definition of contract killings.
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Because of special pleading?
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I think at this point, it'd be good to see if we can agree on a definition for special pleading. Here's the first one from The American Heritage Dictionary, 5th Edition:
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  • noun Law Responsive pleading from a defendant that does not deny the factual allegations of the other party but argues that the defense is entitled to prevail, as in the justification of a killing being prosecuted as murder.
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Do you agree with this definition for the purposes of our discussion?
 
AProudLefty said:
theconversation.com

Abortion is nothing like hiring a hitman, whatever Pope Francis says

Some careful reasoning shows that comparing abortion with contract murder equates two acts that are far from obviously morally equivalent.
theconversation.com theconversation.com
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I read the introduction to the article you linked to, I think it makes some good points. I'll quote it here as others may also find its reasoning to be interesting:
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Pope Francis has compared having an abortion to “hiring a hitman to resolve a problem”. The leader of the Catholic Church made the comment during a speech in which he declared that it is always wrong to end a human life. While this has always been the line taken by the church, this comparison condemns abortion in particularly strong terms.

Some careful reasoning shows that comparing abortion with contract murder equates two acts that are far from obviously morally equivalent. To begin with, it would be a challenge to find a person who thinks that cold-blooded murder, of the sort carried out by hitmen, is morally acceptable.

Yet many people believe that abortion is morally acceptable, often on the basis that only a pregnant woman herself can determine whether an abortion is right or wrong for her in that moment. We also know that most women don’t regret their abortions, which shows that their moral intuitions seem pretty reliable.
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Source:
theconversation.com

Abortion is nothing like hiring a hitman, whatever Pope Francis says

Some careful reasoning shows that comparing abortion with contract murder equates two acts that are far from obviously morally equivalent.
theconversation.com theconversation.com
 
Scott said:
I read the introduction to the article you linked to, I think it makes some good points. I'll quote it here as others may also find its reasoning to be interesting:
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Pope Francis has compared having an abortion to “hiring a hitman to resolve a problem”. The leader of the Catholic Church made the comment during a speech in which he declared that it is always wrong to end a human life. While this has always been the line taken by the church, this comparison condemns abortion in particularly strong terms.

Some careful reasoning shows that comparing abortion with contract murder equates two acts that are far from obviously morally equivalent. To begin with, it would be a challenge to find a person who thinks that cold-blooded murder, of the sort carried out by hitmen, is morally acceptable.

Yet many people believe that abortion is morally acceptable, often on the basis that only a pregnant woman herself can determine whether an abortion is right or wrong for her in that moment. We also know that most women don’t regret their abortions, which shows that their moral intuitions seem pretty reliable.
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Source:
theconversation.com

Abortion is nothing like hiring a hitman, whatever Pope Francis says

Some careful reasoning shows that comparing abortion with contract murder equates two acts that are far from obviously morally equivalent.
theconversation.com theconversation.com
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many people believe hiring hitmen is moral.

they're called criminals.
 
Scott said:
I think at this point, it'd be good to see if we can agree on a definition for special pleading. Here's the first one from The American Heritage Dictionary, 5th Edition:
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  • noun Law Responsive pleading from a defendant that does not deny the factual allegations of the other party but argues that the defense is entitled to prevail, as in the justification of a killing being prosecuted as murder.
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Do you agree with this definition for the purposes of our discussion?
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yes.

so is that a yes on your part?
 
Scott said:
Definitions of words for issues such as [contract killing] can be crucial when we're discussing things like whether [contract killing] should or shouldn't be allowed.
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FTFY. No, we don't need to quibble over words to know that contract killings are wrong. You were rational and honest enough to agree to this.

Math should be accepted by all reasonable people who are not intent on being totally dishonest while pushing killing supremacy.

We currently stand at your rejection of "a customer who is a pregnant woman" being a proper subset of "a customer".

You are objectively in error.
 
Scott said:
Find me a dictionary that agrees with you and we can discuss it at that point.
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Show me where the owner of the English language agrees with you that some dictionary has his delegated authority to define words, and I'll use that dictionary's definition.

When Albert Einstein developed Relativity, was the theory rejected the world over on the basis that, at that time, there were no books or dictionaries that agreed with him?
 
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