Conservatives: fighting for your freedom to pay money to useless insurance CEO's

I don't.

Educate yourself: [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_in_the_United_States[/ame]
 
I'm much better educated than you, thank you.

Why does the government get to determine what their fair share is? And even within that, why has their "fair share" changed countless times over the last 60 years?

Under Truman, the rich were paying 90% of their income in taxes. Is that what you want to return us to? If not, where do you draw the line, and why do you draw it there?
 
Let me help you understand:

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxing_and_Spending_Clause[/ame]
 
I think it is you who needs some help understanding. You apparently were not able to discern what exactly I was asking.

I was not, for instance, asking for another one liner and a link to a wikipedia article. I was asking for your personal opinion about the upper bracket tax rate. You apparently either do not know anything about the history of the tax system in the US, or equally likely you lack any individual opinions not given to you by the DNC.
 
Epicurus said:
Why do you get to determine what their fair share is?
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Looks like you are under the impression I have control over marginal tax rates.

I don't, but you knew that.

I do applaud the president's resolve to recoup some of the revenue losses Bush imposed on the Treasury with his ill-advised tax cuts for the rich.
 
Scaremongers

"GOP pushes charade to 'protect' seniors' health
By Yael T. Abouhalkah, Kansas City Star Editorial Page columnist

In a despicable attempt to scare the elderly, the Republican National Committee is out Monday with its plan to "protect" seniors from health care reform.

The GOP pushes all the hot buttons for critics of President Barack Obama's plans.

The Republican proposal is a charade, meant to make seniors think their health care is under assault from proposed changes.

It's not true.

Yet Republican National Committee Committee Chairman Michael Steele wrote today that his group supports what it calls a Seniors' Health Care Bill of Rights.

Steele says Medicare has to be protected from major cuts in care for seniors -- something that's not contemplated by any proposed plan by the Democrats.

Steele wants to preserve the close relationships many seniors have with their doctors -- which also isn't affected by reform.

Steele calls for a ban on rationing of care when it comes to end-of-life decisions -- which, again, is a scare story being spread by Republicans and not part of major health care bill.

Finally, Steele calls on Obama to embrace bipartisanship and join with Republicans on health care changes that make sense. As if the GOP is really interested in working with the president or Democrats in changing the costly and ineffective status quo.

The GOP is continuing its attempt to whip people up into a frenzy, and its latest attempts to scare seniors is particularly off target."

http://voices.kansascity.com/node/5562
 
DNC said:
"GOP pushes charade to 'protect' seniors' health
By Yael T. Abouhalkah, Kansas City Star Editorial Page columnist

In a despicable attempt to scare the elderly, the Republican National Committee is out Monday with its plan to "protect" seniors from health care reform.

The GOP pushes all the hot buttons for critics of President Barack Obama's plans.

The Republican proposal is a charade, meant to make seniors think their health care is under assault from proposed changes.

It's not true.

Yet Republican National Committee Committee Chairman Michael Steele wrote today that his group supports what it calls a Seniors' Health Care Bill of Rights.

Steele says Medicare has to be protected from major cuts in care for seniors -- something that's not contemplated by any proposed plan by the Democrats.

Steele wants to preserve the close relationships many seniors have with their doctors -- which also isn't affected by reform.

Steele calls for a ban on rationing of care when it comes to end-of-life decisions -- which, again, is a scare story being spread by Republicans and not part of major health care bill.

Finally, Steele calls on Obama to embrace bipartisanship and join with Republicans on health care changes that make sense. As if the GOP is really interested in working with the president or Democrats in changing the costly and ineffective status quo.

The GOP is continuing its attempt to whip people up into a frenzy, and its latest attempts to scare seniors is particularly off target."

http://voices.kansascity.com/node/5562
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Max Baucus Was for a Deadline Before He Was Against It
I just returned from a week long vacation, so my apologies if this has been covered. The worst news of a terrible week is that Max Baucus is even more pathetic than I thought, and believe me, I had set the bar extremely low. A few weeks ago, Max Baucus told his committee that if he had not reached a bipartisan agreement by September 15, he would go ahead and push a vote through his committee anyway. I hailed this as huge news. (The Republicans have every incentive to delay health care negotiations indefinitely, even if they plan to sign on eventually.) Clearly the deadline originated from the White House, but Baucus agreed with it, or at least had put his prestige behind it, making me think he would understand the necessity of enforcing it.

Now (and by "now" I mean last Friday) I see that the "Gang of Six" negotiating a bipartisan health care bill has decided to blow off this deadline:

In a conference call, the three Democratic and three Republican members of the Senate Finance Committee agreed to redouble their efforts to craft a less costly alternative to the trillion-dollar initiatives so far put forward in Congress. They discussed the possibility of also reining in the scope of their package, the sources said. The senators rejected the idea of imposing a deadline on their negotiations, and they agreed to talk again Sept. 4 -- four days before lawmakers are scheduled to return to Washington from their August break. The consensus, one participant said, was "to take your time to get it right."
In case you don't realize this, Max Baucus is a member of the Gang of Six. This is his own deadline he's scoffing at.

So first Baucus announces a deadline. Then he says we don't need no stinking deadline. I'm at a loss. I have been told by somebody in a position to know firsthand that Baucus, to put it delicately, is not an intellectual giant. But is he such an affable dolt that he simply agrees with whoever speaks with him last? Do other Senators routinely trade him shiny new dimes for drab old dollar bills? Just how mentally feeble is this man?

--Jonathan Chait

The New Republic
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/default.aspx
 
"We will end the disgrace of America as the only major industrialized nation in the world that doesn't guarantee healthcare for all of it's people."

Senator Edward Kennedy
 
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