Conservatism isn't governance, it's dogma like BoTHsiDeRism

[NiftyNiblick]

I still don't understand what you mean by "WOKE", and I'm not the only one?

I agree that it's hard to understand.
My view if WOKE as practiced today is pandering to the hypersensitive.
It's not about civil liberties which I support.
It's about superficial "feelings issues" from my perspective.

 

[LV426]

I agree that it's hard to understand.
My view if WOKE as practiced today is pandering to the hypersensitive.

So what was it before and how has it been changed? I still don't understand, you're being very vague.

It's not about civil liberties which I support.
It's about superficial "feelings issues" from my perspective.

What do you mean by "feelings issues"? Because the only one here with hurt feelings seems to be you, but no one knows why?

 

[NiftyNiblick]

What is it doing to the English language?

One example: Using "they" and "their" in a singular connotation.
For centuries, "he," "him," and "his" were regarded grammatically correct in any singular context where gender was unspecified.
Now, it's suddenly OK to use plural words in a singular context.

I refuse to do it.
It's not class to be grammatically mangled.
If "He" is offensive, than I'll use "he/she/it," with the emphasis on the it.

 

[LV426]

One example: Using "they" and "their" in a singular connotation..

OK but you know that all the Greek playwrights, all the Roman ones, the King James Bible, Jane Austen, Maya Angelou, even fucking Shakespeare used "they" in the singular.

Comedy of Errors: "There's not a man I meet but doth salute me / As if I were their well-acquainted friend."
Much Ado About Nothing: "God send every one their heart's desire!"

Just curious, do you have a degree in English, Writing, or Journalism? No? Hmmm. So what makes you the authority on the English language? You're doing what Conservatives do when it comes to science...reducing things to their utmost base level by regressing back on your primary education.

For centuries, "he," "him," and "his" were regarded grammatically correct in any singular context where gender was unspecified.

That has never been the case. Not in any history of Western Literature. Never. From the days of Escalus through Oscar Wilde and into Stephen King, that was never a standard.

Not at all, and you can't point to anything that proves it is, whereas I can point to literature from virtually ANY ERA and pull out singular they's.

Please stop posturing. It's a terrible look.

I refuse to do it.
It's not class to be grammatically mangled.
If "He" is offensive, than I'll use "he/she/it," with the emphasis on the it.

Who made you the gatekeeper of the English language even though you have no degree in it and don't seem to read a lot of literature very often. What was the last book you read?

 

[NiftyNiblick]

OK but you know that all the Greek playwrights, all the Roman ones, the King James Bible, Jane Austen, Maya Angelou, even fucking Shakespeare used "they" in the singular.

Comedy of Errors: "There's not a man I meet but doth salute me / As if I were their well-acquainted friend."
Much Ado About Nothing: "God send every one their heart's desire!"

Just curious, do you have a degree in English, Writing, or Journalism? No? Hmmm. So what makes you the authority on the English language? You're doing what Conservatives do when it comes to science...reducing things to their utmost base level by regressing back on your primary education.


That has never been the case. Not in any history of Western Literature. Never. From the days of Escalus through Oscar Wilde and into Stephen King, that was never a standard.

Not at all, and you can't point to anything that proves it is, whereas I can point to literature from virtually ANY ERA and pull out singular they's.

Please stop posturing. It's a terrible look.





Who made you the gatekeeper of the English language even though you have no degree in it and don't seem to read a lot of literature very often. What was the last book you read?

I care about what I care about, and I assume that you do the same.
I'm certainly the gate keeper of the King's English in terms of how I speak myself.

I'm progressive on important fiscal issues.
If I'm not liberal enough for you on social issues,
I doubt that it will hurt either of us.

Except for a bunch of books from sportswriters that I got as gifts,
I haven't read a non-fiction book since Liz Warren's last book, Persist.
I haven't read a new novel in a long time, although I've re-read old ones.
I'm elderly and not the heavy reader that I was with younger eyes.

My degree is a BS in Business Administrations with double majors in accounting and labor relations,
and I earned it more than a half century ago.

Our basic natures are to not get along, LV.
The topic is probably irrelevant.
It's not a big deal.

 

[BidenPresident]

But I do think Woke can be dangerous. It makes biological categories determine who we are.

 

[LV426]

I care about what I care about, and I assume that you do the same.
I'm certainly the gate keeper of the King's English in terms of how I speak myself.

I'm progressive on important fiscal issues.
If I'm not liberal enough for you on social issues,
I doubt that it will hurt either of us.

Except for a bunch of books from sportswriters that I got as gifts,
I haven't read a non-fiction book since Liz Warren's last book, Persist.
I haven't read a new novel in a long time, although I've re-read old ones.
I'm elderly and not the heavy reader that I was with younger eyes.

My degree is a BS in Business Administrations with double majors in accounting and labor relations,
and I earned it more than a half century ago.

Our basic natures are to not get along, LV.
The topic is probably irrelevant.
It's not a big deal.

You aren't making any sense at all.

You ignore history.

You ignore facts.

You would rather adhere to your dogma than be correct about something.

You do exactly what Conservatives do whenever I get THEM in an uncomfortable place.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

You aren't making any sense at all.

You ignore history.

You ignore facts.

You would rather adhere to your dogma than be correct about something.

You do exactly what Conservatives do whenever I get THEM in an uncomfortable place.

You're full of yourself, even dreaming that you could put me in an uncomfortable space.
Know your role.

 

[LV426]

You're full of yourself, even dreaming that you could put me in an uncomfortable space.
Know your role.

I just got you to admit you don't really know what it is you're talking about when it comes to the English language...or that you haven't opened a book since elementary school.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

I just got you to admit you don't really know what it is you're talking about when it comes to the English language...or that you haven't opened a book since elementary school.

You just got me to admit that you're an annoying, presumptuous broad with whom I've wasted too much time.

 

[LV426]

You just got me to admit that you're an annoying, presumptuous broad with whom I've wasted too much time.

Enlighten yourself: https://www.mentalfloss.com/posts/singular-they-history

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I propose that we completely remove any trace of Conservatism (Big "C") from our politics.

I guarantee if we did that, we would have a functional government that made sensible policy.

I challenge you the same way I challenge them...please, by all means, give an example of a merit of Conservatism. I bet you can't think of one. Wanna know why? Because they don't exist.

Conservatism is just a front for Nazism and fascism.

Okay, let's say that happens. What would the resulting government do? What would be some of the policies and practices that would be instituted by that government? Give us some examples.

 

[Nomad]

Then don't put on the fucking dress. It takes ZERO effort to recognize someone the way they want to be recognized.

If I met you and then just started referring to you by an incorrect name, you'd expect that I would correct myself to address you properly, right? So why can't you do that for other people?

No emotionally secure and mature adult gives a shit.

That's something for immature, insecure panty pissers like your ilk to snivel and cry about.

Woke shmoke.

Get over yourselves.

Fuck the woke.

 

[LV426]

Okay, let's say that happens. What would the resulting government do?

Make and pass policy based in science, not superstition.

The reason Conservative policies always fail is because they're not based in science, they're based in stupidity because Conservatives are stupid people.

What would be some of the policies and practices that would be instituted by that government?

Single payer universal health care
Free public colleges
A Smart Grid
Universal, automatic voter registration
End of gerrymandering
Public campaign financing
Expanded Supreme Court with term limits
Amnesty for immigrants & refugees
Amnesty for those who kill Nazis or Klansmen
Gun control
Government spending according to what revenue you contribute, rather than what you take (This means no more relying on the Blue states and cities for welfare).
Expand NATO
Ending charter schools
Abortion rights
Tax increases
Lower Deficits and paying off the debt

 

[Nomad]

But I don't even know what it is they don't like? Is it because they can't say the "n" word anymore? Because they can't call gay people the "f" word? Because they can't call women "bitches"?

If I was a black rapper I could.

They do it all the time.

According to you and the rest of your woke ilk, black rappers can say any nasty thing they want to and you still worship them as great artists.

 

[LV426]

No emotionally secure and mature adult gives a shit.

Well you are not emotionally secure, so you probably should keep your mouth shut snowflake.

That's something for immature, insecure panty pissers like your ilk to snivel and cry about

The only one who has cried about not being able to speak derisively to people is your bitch ass.

 

[Nomad]

Make and pass policy based in science, not superstition.

The reason Conservative policies always fail is because they're not based in science, they're based in stupidity because Conservatives are stupid people.

You mean like the "science" that says there are over 100 different genders?

Yeah, right.

 

[LV426]

If I was a black rapper I could..

Plenty of white people call women bitches...in fact, there was a thread I started that showed exactly that.

According to you and the rest of your woke ilk, black rappers can say any nasty thing they want to and you still worship them as great artists.

"Cat Scratch Fever" was written before a single rap song.

 

[LV426]

You mean like the "science" that says there are over 100 different genders?

Yeah...the same science that shows how you lose cognitive ability the older you get, thereby trashing the lie that with age comes wisdom.

You like to tout how your life experience has made you wise, but scientifically you are actually fucking dumber than you've ever been. But don't worry...you will continue to get dumber and dumber each day until you finally die.

 

[Nomad]

Well you are not emotionally secure, so you probably should keep your mouth shut snowflake.

The only one who has cried about not being able to speak derisively to people is your bitch ass.

And yet here you are, unable to have a civilized conversation, resorting to cursing, insult hurling and ghetto speak.

Maybe you'd do better in a forum of your own kind.

BTW, I speak any way I want to people.