Congress releases secret '28 pages' on alleged Saudi 9/11 ties

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"A long-classified U.S. report released Friday found that some of the 9/11 hijackers were in contact with and received support from individuals likely connected to the Saudi government. Known as the "28 pages," the secret document was part of a 2002 Congressional Joint Inquiry into the Sept. 11 attacks and has been classified since the report's completion, despite repeated calls for its release. The document, which the administration finally delivered to Congress earlier Friday, actually contains 29 pages of material, plus a letter from then-CIA Director George Tenet.

"While in the United States, some of the September 11 hijackers were in contact with, and received support or assistance from, individuals who may be connected to the Saudi Government," the document says. The pages also say that the inquiry obtained information "indicating that Saudi Government officials in the United States may have other ties to al-Qa'ida and other terrorist groups," but the commission that authored the document acknowledged that much of the info "remains speculative and yet to be independently verified."

...The report also criticizes the lack of effective intelligence-sharing in the U.S. government, highlighting an episode where a CIA memorandum "which discusses alleged financial connections between the September 11 hijackers, Saudi Government officials, and members of the Saudi Royal Family" was placed into an FBI case file and never forwarded to FBI headquarters until the memo was discovered by the inquiry. It also says there was a lack of emphasis on intelligence-gathering directed at Saudis in the U.S. in the time before the attacks.

"Prior to September 11th, the FBI apparently did not focus investigative resources on [redacted] Saudi nationals in the United States due to Saudi Arabia's status as an American 'ally.'"

But the report also references instances where the Saudi government was "uncooperative" in counterterrorism investigations before and after 9/11.

"A number of FBI agents and CIA officers complained to the Joint Inquiry about a lack of Saudi cooperation in terrorism investigations both before and after the September 11 attacks," citing one New York FBI agent who said "the Saudis have been useless and obstructionist for years."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/15/politics/congress-releases-28-pages-saudis-9-11/
 
"A long-classified U.S. report released Friday found that some of the 9/11 hijackers were in contact with and received support from individuals likely connected to the Saudi government. Known as the "28 pages," the secret document was part of a 2002 Congressional Joint Inquiry into the Sept. 11 attacks and has been classified since the report's completion, despite repeated calls for its release. The document, which the administration finally delivered to Congress earlier Friday, actually contains 29 pages of material, plus a letter from then-CIA Director George Tenet.

"While in the United States, some of the September 11 hijackers were in contact with, and received support or assistance from, individuals who may be connected to the Saudi Government," the document says. The pages also say that the inquiry obtained information "indicating that Saudi Government officials in the United States may have other ties to al-Qa'ida and other terrorist groups," but the commission that authored the document acknowledged that much of the info "remains speculative and yet to be independently verified."

...The report also criticizes the lack of effective intelligence-sharing in the U.S. government, highlighting an episode where a CIA memorandum "which discusses alleged financial connections between the September 11 hijackers, Saudi Government officials, and members of the Saudi Royal Family" was placed into an FBI case file and never forwarded to FBI headquarters until the memo was discovered by the inquiry. It also says there was a lack of emphasis on intelligence-gathering directed at Saudis in the U.S. in the time before the attacks.

"Prior to September 11th, the FBI apparently did not focus investigative resources on [redacted] Saudi nationals in the United States due to Saudi Arabia's status as an American 'ally.'"

But the report also references instances where the Saudi government was "uncooperative" in counterterrorism investigations before and after 9/11.

"A number of FBI agents and CIA officers complained to the Joint Inquiry about a lack of Saudi cooperation in terrorism investigations both before and after the September 11 attacks," citing one New York FBI agent who said "the Saudis have been useless and obstructionist for years."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/15/politics/congress-releases-28-pages-saudis-9-11/
I know many of us never doubted this for a minute.
 
nowhere does it blame the Saudi gov't. there are hundreds of princes-did one of them bankroll anything? -maybe
The OP says everything isn't verifiable -so it's all speculation -or "raw intelligence" that wasn't verified.
To run with this as any kind of truth is stupid, and harming SA/US relations for no reason

While in the United States, some of the September 11 hijackers were in contact with, and received support or assistance from, individuals who may be connected to the Saudi Government," the document says. The pages also say that the inquiry obtained information "indicating that Saudi Government officials in the United States may have other ties to al-Qa'ida and other terrorist groups," but the commission that authored the document acknowledged that much of the info "remains speculative and yet to be independently verified."
blah blah blah

But the report also references instances where the Saudi government was "uncooperative" in counterterrorism investigations before and after 9/11.
could be said about any gov't
 
nowhere does it blame the Saudi gov't. there are hundreds of princes-did one of them bankroll anything? -maybe
The OP says everything isn't verifiable -so it's all speculation -or "raw intelligence" that wasn't verified.
To run with this as any kind of truth is stupid, and harming SA/US relations for no reason

blah blah blah

could be said about any gov't

Why would it have been kept secret for 15 years if innocuous? The fact that the govt. wouldn't release it in spite of repeated requests is suspicious to me.

SA has one of the worst human rights records in the world and we treat them with kid gloves.
 
Why would it have been kept secret for 15 years if innocuous? The fact that the govt. wouldn't release it in spite of repeated requests is suspicious to me. SA has one of the worst human rights records in the world and we treat them with kid gloves.

Trump will prohibit the poorer Saudis from visiting the US, though. :rolleyes:
 
Trump will prohibit the poorer Saudis from visiting the US, though. :rolleyes:

Wonder if the cons recognize the irony in this.

Trump Hotel Collection in the Middle East: Ivanka Trump, the business tycoon's daughter and executive vice president of development & acquisitions for the Trump Organization, told the Hotelier Middle East that the company's luxury line of hotels, Trump Hotel Collection, plans to build hotels in Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Qatar and Saudi Arabia in an exclusive interview in May.

"Dubai is a top priority city for us," Ivanka Trump said. "We are looking at multiple opportunities in Abu Dhabi, in Qatar, in Saudi Arabia, so those are the four areas where we are seeing the most interest. We haven't made a final decision in any of the markets but we have many very compelling deals in each of them."

https://mic.com/articles/130070/her...mp-s-middle-east-business-ventures#.dsCiCN0DJ
 
Why would it have been kept secret for 15 years if innocuous? The fact that the govt. wouldn't release it in spite of repeated requests is suspicious to me.
SA has one of the worst human rights records in the world and we treat them with kid gloves.
because it's almost entirely raw intelligence?
This was a report -reports have to be based on confirmed intel- to include it in the report would have been including specious assumption.

What do I care how SA runs it country? What about China, or Iran? Or even Cuban political prisoners.

SA is being attacked by al-Qaeda - AQ is trying to undermine it any way it can.
Why make things more difficult?
Both our interests are in stability of the region, and I would add also checking Iranian expansionism.
 
What do I care how SA runs it country? What about China, or Iran? Or even Cuban political prisoners. SA is being attacked by al-Qaeda - AQ is trying to undermine it any way it can. Why make things more difficult?
Both our interests are in stability of the region, and I would add also checking Iranian expansionism.

How's that interventionism working for you so far?
 
because it's almost entirely raw intelligence?
This was a report -reports have to be based on confirmed intel- to include it in the report would have been including specious assumption.

What do I care how SA runs it country? What about China, or Iran? Or even Cuban political prisoners.

SA is being attacked by al-Qaeda - AQ is trying to undermine it any way it can.
Why make things more difficult?
Both our interests are in stability of the region, and I would add also checking Iranian expansionism.

I'm just a liberal bleeding heart who cares about how people are treated and that includes those in China, Iran and Cuba. And I see a double standard with SA.
 
That's different. :rolleyes:

Look on the funny side. Will Trump allow the Muslim representatives of his hotels into the US without vetting? Will they get asked if they'd blow up Disney World when they're coming through Customs? Will Ivanka have to wear a burqa when she makes an on-site inspection?
 
I'm just a liberal bleeding heart who cares about how people are treated and that includes those in China, Iran and Cuba. And I see a double standard with SA.
that's cool. Compassion for human suffering is always worthwhile

it's just that human right is a flawed way to run foreign policy - it often conflicts with realpolitik. I don't see a double standard,,but OK
 
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