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netscalers and F5s, but I have worked with routers, switches, and firewalls in the past....along with server systems....AD, Exchange, Storage, and clustering
Oh ok, so mainly load balancers. I used to work with Alteons back in the day, but my main job was designing and installing Cisco based networks with T-Mobile.

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and I've run in to the same arrogant attitude with college graduates that think I'm not capable of doing the job they do because I didn't go to college, yet I continually seem to show better skills and understanding of enterprise networks than they do. Starting out in IT, I met so many people that had 'certifications' in one thing or another, but couldn't do a damn thing without having someone show them how first. I learned it all on my own.

IT is simple stuff. I'm talking real engineering.
 
IT is simple stuff. I'm talking real engineering.

1. enterprise IT is not simple stuff, i'm betting you can't do it
2. never have I ever said I could do what you do, since I especially didn't study it
3. I've met one person that could do mechanical engineering like a boss without ever having ever graduated high school. yes, this is an anomaly, but things like that can be done.
 
1. enterprise IT is not simple stuff, i'm betting you can't do it
2. never have I ever said I could do what you do, since I especially didn't study it
3. I've met one person that could do mechanical engineering like a boss without ever having ever graduated high school. yes, this is an anomaly, but things like that can be done.

My son learned IT in a high school class, made a small fortune mining bitcoin while in college. Now he's a chemical engineer, provides manufacturing support for Boeing. Try doing that without a college degree. You are way out of your league.
 
My son learned IT in a high school class, made a small fortune mining bitcoin while in college. Now he's a chemical engineer, provides manufacturing support for Boeing. Try doing that without a college degree. You are way out of your league.

pfffft, your son did not learn IT in a high school class. he MIGHT have learned windows and basic tcp/ip, but he did NOT learn network architecture in global environments. the only league i'm out of is the overinflated ego you have about your regurgitation education.
 
I once called my computer guy to come to my office to fix my computer. He turned it off and back on and it was fixed. Cost me $150. But at least it was fixed.
:truestory:

He's honest though. Whenever I call him to fix my computer first thing he asks is if I turned it off, then on.
I'm getting more tech savvy though. It's called 'rebooting'.
 
pfffft, your son did not learn IT in a high school class. he MIGHT have learned windows and basic tcp/ip, but he did NOT learn network architecture in global environments. the only league i'm out of is the overinflated ego you have about your regurgitation education.
You have a limited mindset, conditioned to accept the norm, so you don't believe me.
 
I once called my computer guy to come to my office to fix my computer. He turned it off and back on and it was fixed. Cost me $150. But at least it was fixed.
:truestory:

He's honest though. Whenever I call him to fix my computer first thing he asks is if I turned it off, then on.
I'm getting more tech savvy though. It's called 'rebooting'.

i'm left wondering who you think is stupider........the IT guy who just came in and turned it off and on......or you for paying 150 dollars for something you should have known how to do yourself
 
i'm left wondering who you think is stupider........the IT guy who just came in and turned it off and on......or you for paying 150 dollars for something you should have known how to do yourself

He only did it once so I guess I'm the stupider one. But I probably earn at least 5 X's what he does so maybe I'm not that stupid, just have my priorities in a different place.
 
so, in you 'mind', network engineering is as simply as setting up a home router.....compared to......what kind of other engineering?
Speaking as an network engineer who worked building networks at T-Mobile for 13 years, I can say that you are absolutely right. I achieved a CCNP qualification which has now lapsed, only a fool would say building enterprise networks is easy.

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