Coding as the next big blue collar job

i doubt it this is one of the easiest ones to outsource. Last time i was in the philippines they had infosys, fleur, and im sure much more that I didnt see that handles this work for US clients.
 
I think the God awful truth is many Americans don't want anything to do with honest, hard work that requires effort, accountability, and reliability.

They'd walk 100 miles in deplorable conditions for freebies, but nothing consistent that requires effort or a 40-hour a week job.
 
tsuke said:
i doubt it this is one of the easiest ones to outsource. Last time i was in the philippines they had infosys, fleur, and im sure much more that I didnt see that handles this work for US clients.
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I've been saying for years it's a career that it's hard to fill the positions. There is always a need and not enough people to fill it. My salary has been increasing over the years because of it too. Even with outsourcing, there is just too much demand. It took us 10 months to fill a second developer position to get me some relief.
 
DigitalDave said:
I've been saying for years it's a career that it's hard to fill the positions. There is always a need and not enough people to fill it. My salary has been increasing over the years because of it too. Even with outsourcing, there is just too much demand. It took us 10 months to fill a second developer position to get me some relief.
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Exactly. This is the future in our country.
 
It's getting to the point now where when other careers need software to help keep track of their processes or data, they are learning to code it themselves. A lot of scientists have been learning J# because they can't afford to hire someone to build them what they need. Demand is everywhere for it, especially with everything becoming 'smart'.
 
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I think the last thing I ever wanted to be in college was a sql developer, but it pays well I don't work very hard.
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At some point, I'd imagine that the rest of society does catch on to the fact that developers are sorely needed, and they'll pump them through the colleges to fulfill market demand. It won't be anytime soon though. The biggest problem we've had in the last 20 years was dealing with the over-employment of developers to try and deal with Y2K. They flooded the market with talent from all over the world at that time, then after that they had to lay a ton of people off. Since that correction, demand has increased for talent year over year, and hasn't looked back. Even during recessions, work was easy to find. The lack of talent in the market is job-security in itself.
 
DigitalDave said:
I've been saying for years it's a career that it's hard to fill the positions. There is always a need and not enough people to fill it. My salary has been increasing over the years because of it too. Even with outsourcing, there is just too much demand. It took us 10 months to fill a second developer position to get me some relief.
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Both my sons got first class honours degrees in computer science, my eldest works for Cisco and the youngest for Expedia. They both work in London and the demand far outstrips the supply, indeed my youngest son is less than three years out of uni and on his third job.

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Milagro said:
Both my sons got first class honours degrees in computer science, my eldest works for Cisco and the youngest for Expedia. They both work in London and the demand far outstrips the supply, indeed my youngest son is less than three years out of uni and on his third job.
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Sorry to hear he can't hold a job...
Poor Tom...
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
Sorry to hear he can't hold a job...
Poor Tom...
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They can't hold him, he is too clever for them. Not that has ever been a problem for you, there's not much demand for Colorado cock gobblers.

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They can't hold him, he is too clever for them. Not that has ever been a problem for you, there's not much demand for Colorado cock gobblers.

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so um 3 companies in 3 years doesnt actually look good on the cv....
 
DigitalDave said:
I've been saying for years it's a career that it's hard to fill the positions. There is always a need and not enough people to fill it. My salary has been increasing over the years because of it too. Even with outsourcing, there is just too much demand. It took us 10 months to fill a second developer position to get me some relief.
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yes but theres no incentive to hire someone in the first world for this where you have to pay more because standards of living are higher.
 
tsuke said:
so um 3 companies in 3 years doesnt actually look good on the cv....
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The London IT market is cut throat, companies are so desperate to get staff they will do whatever is necessary. He plans to go contracting in a couple of years when he should be on £200k a year. He must be doing something right as Expedia love him.

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tsuke said:
yes but theres no incentive to hire someone in the first world for this where you have to pay more because standards of living are higher.
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So no business will actually be done in America essentially in your view?
 
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