Clinton says being a capitalist likely hurt her among socialist Dems

[Truth Detector]

Hillary Clinton agreed Wednesday that being a capitalist likely damaged her 2016 campaign because nearly half of Democrats say they are socialists.

"Probably," Clinton said at the Shared Values Leadership Summit in New York City, after being asked whether support for capitalism hurt her at the polls.

"It's hard to know, but if you're in the Iowa caucuses and 41 percent of Democrats are socialists, or self-described socialists, and I'm asked, ‘Are you a capitalist?' And I say, ‘Yes, but with appropriate regulation and appropriate accountability,' you know, that probably gets lost in the ‘Oh my gosh, she's a capitalist.'"

The former U.S. secretary of state was challenged from the left during the Democratic primaries by self-described democratic socialist Bernie Sanders, the U.S. senator from Vermont who repeatedly criticized her for being bankrolled by Wall Street and not going after capitalism and with the same hostility as the Democratic grassroots hoped for.

During the first Democratic debate in 2015, Sanders refused to identify himself as a capitalist.

“Do I consider myself part of the casino capitalist process by which so few have so much and so many have so little?” he asked. “By which Wall Street greed and recklessness wrecked this economy? No I don’t.”

Clinton, meanwhile, offered a defense of capitalism, saying: “When I think about capitalism, I think about all the businesses that were started because we have the opportunity and the freedom to do that and to make a good living for themselves and their families … We would be making a grave mistake to turn our backs on what built the greatest middle class in the history.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ist-likely-hurt-her-among-socialist-dems.html

What excuse number are we on now? I am losing count.

At least she is admitting what we all know already; that the Democratic Party of the Jackass is moving towards Marxism.

 

[Truth Detector]

Get over it ...

I wish liberals would. I wish Hillary would. But alas, liberals are lying despicable morons on steroids and won't get over it until we have a constitutional crises over their refusal to accept trump as their President.

Sober up.

 

[Truth Detector]

Maybe because workers create wealth. Perhaps the good old days of slavery and indentured workers should be returned. After all it is just owners who create.

Workers do not create wealth you moron; capital creates wealth. Without it, you don't need any workers.

Typical Marxist; they stupidly think everything flows from the bottom up.

 

[CFM]

You do not know what i am thinking. I am not at your low ass hater level. Truth is social welfare was predicated on exactly that clause. You would not know that.That is in the pile of your ignorance. But the court cases agreed.

Affirmative action was predicated on the premise that race was a qualification. See, both are wrong. Social welfare was designed with the mindset of eradicating poverty but it hasn't worked. Just imagine if the true intent of general welfare in the mind of the founding fathers would have been followed instead of the leech mindset of bleeding hearts.

 

[Truth Detector]

You do not know what i am thinking.

First factual statement I have seen from you snowflake.

I am not at your low ass hater level.

True; your hate level for those who disagree with your laughably stupid Marxist eruptions is far greater.

Truth is social welfare was predicated on exactly that clause.

FALSE! You are clueless about the founders intent and the Constitution. Which explains why you are such a willful idiot.

You would not know that.

Wrong; you're the one who doesn't know anything.

That is in the pile of your ignorance. But the court cases agreed.

Pegging the irony meter here.

 

[Nordberg]

Affirmative action was predicated on the premise that race was a qualification. See, both are wrong. Social welfare was designed with the mindset of eradicating poverty but it hasn't worked. Just imagine if the true intent of general welfare in the mind of the founding fathers would have been followed instead of the leech mindset of bleeding hearts.

So Social Security and unemployment insurance do not mitigate poverty? you are always so wrong. We could raise them a bunch and get even more payback for our tax money.

Affirmative action was about leveling the playing field since so many bigots, like you, stepped in front of blacks getting fair opportunities. It actually works.

 

[Truth Detector]

So Social Security and unemployment insurance do not mitigate poverty?

If you think they do, you're dumber than I thought you were. Where does the Constitution state that Government should mitigate poverty?

you are always so wrong.

Irony from someone who is NEVER right.

We could raise them a bunch and get even more payback for our tax money.

Who is "we" snowflake? Who is "our"? I am starting to believe you don't make enough to pay any taxes which is why you emote so ignorantly.

Affirmative action was about leveling the playing field since so many bigots, like you, stepped in front of blacks getting fair opportunities. It actually works.

FALSE! Affirmative action is about dishonest politicians pandering to low information dolts to buy their votes. It does NOTHING to get anyone level with anything and merely assures that those using it are wards of the state.

If you were honest, you would ask yourself why urban blacks do so much more poorly than their Asian and White counterparts. The FACT is that when you have high drop out rates, high drug use, high out of wedlock births and low reading comprehension and math levels, it tends to breed failure. All the affirmative action in the world is not going to change that. It is an excuse for failure which NO ONE should find acceptable.

 

[leaningright]

I haven’t read the thread but let me say this, ... Being Hillary Clinton hurt her among many people....both dem and rep.

 

[Darth Omar]

what is interesting here is the sheer amount of Dems who consider themselves socialist,
and will not look to capitalism on how to improve one's economic life

All they need to do is get back in power for 8-10 years and there will be no going back.

That’s why I get aggravated at the Never Trumpers who fret over Trump’s use of Twitter and decorum when the future of the country is at stake.

 

[cawacko]

All they need to do is get back in power for 8-10 years and there will be no going back.

That’s why I get aggravated at the Never Trumpers who fret over Trump’s use of Twitter and decorum when the future of the country is at stake.

I'll only speak for myself but I think he's doing long term damage to the Republican Party and his behavior and attitude isn't what I want for someone leading the country. One of the books Peggy Noonan wrote about Reagan was called Character Matters. There is very little about Trump's character that I respect.

Do I like the tax cuts? Yes. Do I like the deregulation? Yes. Do I like the Gorsuch appointment? Yes. Because I didn't vote for Trump doesn't mean I've abandoned my beliefs that make me a Republican. But we all know if Trump were a Democrat doing what he's doing in office we would (rightly) be all over his *ss. But it's the tribal mentality of partisanship that we are now ok with it.

The reality is there are very few #nevertrumpers. I'm just not willing to hitch my wagon to the Trump express and ride it down.

 

[Darth Omar]

I'll only speak for myself but I think he's doing long term damage to the Republican Party and his behavior and attitude isn't what I want for someone leading the country. One of the books Peggy Noonan wrote about Reagan was called Character Matters. There is very little about Trump's character that I respect.

Do I like the tax cuts? Yes. Do I like the deregulation? Yes. Do I like the Gorsuch appointment? Yes. Because I didn't vote for Trump doesn't mean I've abandoned my beliefs that make me a Republican. But we all know if Trump were a Democrat doing what he's doing in office we would (rightly) be all over his *ss. But it's the tribal mentality of partisanship that we are now ok with it.

The reality is there are very few #nevertrumpers. I'm just not willing to hitch my wagon to the Trump express and ride it down.

I meant congressional Never Trumpers who won’t get behind his agenda.

 

[cawacko]

I meant congressional Never Trumpers who won’t get behind his agenda.

How many of them are there though? Congressional Republicans have their own set up of issues that would be there no matter who was President.

 

[Truth Detector]

I'll only speak for myself but I think he's doing long term damage to the Republican Party

We all can only speak for ourselves; but I would beg to disagree. The thing that is hurting the Republican Party is US not acting in unity and supporting the President. No one gives a shit whether they like the guy or not, he was ELECTED by the PEOPLE.

I believe the Party is hurting itself not pushing against the Deep State which is the primary reason Trump was elected. Americans were sick and tired of the status quo and spineless RINOs like McCain.

and his behavior and attitude isn't what I want for someone leading the country.

Yes we know; most like slick liars like Obama.

One of the books Peggy Noonan wrote about Reagan was called Character Matters. There is very little about Trump's character that I respect.

But what about the medias character? The Democratic Party's character? I would argue that if so many weren't trying to destroy this man, his family and those associated with him, the dialogue would look entirely different.

That is the difference between a Conservative who likes slick politicians who are good liars, and someone like me who can see what is REALLY going on. Trump is a billionaire who doesn't have to answer to anyone. He didn't come into the office broke like Obama or BillyBob; therefore, does not need to be nice to everyone who hates him because he will need a new job when his term is done. He is a take no prisoner kind of man who when pushed, shoves back. That is one of the reasons he was elected and not a RINO who gets along with the other side.

But we all know if Trump were a Democrat doing what he's doing in office we would (rightly) be all over his *ss. But it's the tribal mentality of partisanship that we are now ok with it.

Again, if Trump were a Democrat, the media wouldn't be attacking him, his own party wouldn't be attacking him and the RINO's would desperately try to work with him. There's a BIG difference to what is happening now.

The reality is there are very few #nevertrumpers. I'm just not willing to hitch my wagon to the Trump express and ride it down.

The reality is this; we are heading towards a Constitutional crises because a small cabal of entrenched bureaucrats thought they could flaunt the law and reverse the outcome of an election with the "collusion" of the dishonest leftist media. I can assure you that 55 million voters will not abide by an internal coup led by despicable bureaucrats like Mueller over something as idiotic as Russia colluded with Trump to win an election. That's NOT going to happen.

 

[dukkha]

I'll only speak for myself but I think he's doing long term damage to the Republican Party and his behavior and attitude isn't what I want for someone leading the country. One of the books Peggy Noonan wrote about Reagan was called Character Matters. There is very little about Trump's character that I respect.

Do I like the tax cuts? Yes. Do I like the deregulation? Yes. Do I like the Gorsuch appointment? Yes. Because I didn't vote for Trump doesn't mean I've abandoned my beliefs that make me a Republican. But we all know if Trump were a Democrat doing what he's doing in office we would (rightly) be all over his *ss. But it's the tribal mentality of partisanship that we are now ok with it.

The reality is there are very few #nevertrumpers. I'm just not willing to hitch my wagon to the Trump express and ride it down.

so you like his policy/result so far, but not the man.
and not enough to support him against Dems in the midterms, and you wont vote for him in 2020..

uh huh..
and the Dems vote in lock step unity, and will overturn all this and more,
and you are worried about character in a Swamp like DC?

Republicans are absolutely worthless as a political party -no disrespect intended.
forget you guys.

 

[dukkha]

All they need to do is get back in power for 8-10 years and there will be no going back.

That’s why I get aggravated at the Never Trumpers who fret over Trump’s use of Twitter and decorum when the future of the country is at stake.

#neverTrumps are sore losers like McCain or party purists who have no real interest in governing
when they have a chance to do so..
I can't think of a more useless bunch of politicians

 

[cawacko]

so you like his policy/result so far, but not the man.
and not enough to support him against Dems in the midterms, and you wont vote for him in 2020..

uh huh..
and the Dems vote in lock step unity, and will overturn all this and more,
and you are worried about character in a Swamp like DC?

Republicans are absolutely worthless as a political party -no disrespect intended.
forget you guys.

I'll vote in the mid terms, I always do. Nancy Pelosi is my rep and she will win with close to 90% of the vote. I don't even know if a Republican will run against DiFi.

I'm ok with some of Trump's agenda. His tariffs and trade agenda is anathema to me. We have kids that are socialist and adults that don't understand trade. If I'm going to ride or die with someone it's definitely not Trump.

 

[CharacterAssassin]

what is interesting here is the sheer amount of Dems who consider themselves socialist,
and will not look to capitalism on how to improve one's economic life

What is that sheer amounts of dems doing that here, dunce?

 

[dukkha]

I'll vote in the mid terms, I always do. Nancy Pelosi is my rep and she will win with close to 90% of the vote. I don't even know if a Republican will run against DiFi.

I'm ok with some of Trump's agenda. His tariffs and trade agenda is anathema to me. We have kids that are socialist and adults that don't understand trade. If I'm going to ride or die with someone it's definitely not Trump.

Tariffs aren't yet in effect.
I guess you being in CA means your vote for POTUS doesn't count -unlike mine in Florida..

And again not making this personal, but i see absolutely no reason why Republicans in general should hold power.
They squander it when they do

 

[dukkha]

What is that sheer amounts of dems doing that here, dunce?

Hillary Clinton agreed Wednesday that being a capitalist likely damaged her 2016 campaign because nearly half of Democrats say they are socialists.

"Probably," Clinton said at the Shared Values Leadership Summit in New York City, after being asked whether support for capitalism hurt her at the polls.

"It's hard to know, but if you're in the Iowa caucuses and 41 percent of Democrats are socialists, or self-described socialists, and I'm asked, ‘Are you a capitalist?' And I say, ‘Yes, but with appropriate regulation and appropriate accountability,' you know, that probably gets lost in the ‘Oh my gosh, she's a capitalist.'"

The former U.S. secretary of state was challenged from the left during the Democratic primaries by self-described democratic socialist Bernie Sanders, the U.S. senator from Vermont who repeatedly criticized her for being bankrolled by Wall Street and not going after capitalism and with the same hostility as the Democratic grassroots hoped for.

During the first Democratic debate in 2015, Sanders refused to identify himself as a capitalist.

“Do I consider myself part of the casino capitalist process by which so few have so much and so many have so little?” he asked. “By which Wall Street greed and recklessness wrecked this economy? No I don’t.”

Clinton, meanwhile, offered a defense of capitalism, saying: “When I think about capitalism, I think about all the businesses that were started because we have the opportunity and the freedom to do that and to make a good living for themselves and their families … We would be making a grave mistake to turn our backs on what built the greatest middle class in the history.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ist-likely-hurt-her-among-socialist-dems.html

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[CharacterAssassin]

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So, IOW, no solid information confirming that whatsoever other than her saying so.

Got it. Thanks.