Climate Hoax

[Good Luck]

I don't think it's a "just in case" situation. The debate will rage about AGW, which to me is unfortunate, because even if we are 100% behind AGW, there really isn't a way to stop it at this point (and certainly not with weak measures like token improvements in car performance).

There is no doubt whatsoever that man's activity is contributing to the mass extinctions going on, which will have extremely far-reaching effects. I'm not technically a Gaiaist, but I supposed I think like one: if we treat the planet only like it's a resource for us to use as we please, we're basically a parasite, and eventually the planet will find a way to eliminate that parasite.

"Unsustainable" is a popular buzzword, but it applies. The way we live know is completely unsustainable, and not even in the long term. I'm not optimistic that we'd make any of the changes that need to be made - when was the last time a politician brought up population control in a speech? - but if everyone really took a look at what is going on, I think there would be some agreement that a revolution of sorts is needed.

First of all, I think you need to revisit the definition of "mass extinctions". There are a few examples we know of from fossil records, and nothing we see today even comes close. Mass extinctions are when a significant percentage of total species die off in a relatively short time. Of the major 5 mass extinction events, the smallest one resulted in 50% of species dying out.

There are over 2 million known species, and an estimated 200 million total. To approach even 1% extinctions the rate would have to increase by at least 3 if not 4 orders of magnitude. People calling current events "mass extinctions" are using the term for its emotional impact rather than by its scientific meaning. Certainly humans are causing large numbers of species to go extinct. That is not a good thing, and we do need to gain more control over what our activities do to the environment. But neither is it a sign of coming doomsday. There are plenty of very good reasons for taking what steps we can to "clean up our act" so to speak without the need for extremist fear mongering that we are responsible for the geophysical evolution of our planet.

The Earth has gone through many, many changes over the millenia. It has gone through changes far more extreme than the ones currently being observed and forecast (for what our forecasts are worth) without the need for human activity to explain. The idea that humans are needed to explain current events when compared to past events is just short of ludicrous. We don't even know for sure what caused past events, how can we turn around and then claim this time it's different? Different from what? Well, we don't KNOW what it's different from, just humans are involved and therefore it must be humans' fault. It's the tendency of environmental extremism making mankind into the bad guy taken to global political levels.

We DO know that current trends indicate some significant changes taking place in the next few hundred years or so. We can spend our limited resources to prepare ourselves for a (somewhat) different Earth, or we can spend our efforts vainly (with two meanings here) trying to decrease an influence that is questionable at best.

 

[tinfoil]

I'm not sure if that could be any goofier.

The board clown.

you're a fucking idiot. species go extinct all the time. New species replace them. Try learning some science, dumbass

 

[Onceler]

you're a fucking idiot. species go extinct all the time. New species replace them. Try learning some science, dumbass

LOL! LOL!!!! What an idiot!!!!!

I wasn't saying that species don't go extinct all of the time!!!! I was saying that LOTS of species don't go extinct all the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a fool! LOL!!!!

ROFLMAO!!!!!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Good Luck]

LOL! LOL!!!! What an idiot!!!!!

I wasn't saying that species don't go extinct all of the time!!!! I was saying that LOTS of species don't go extinct all the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a fool! LOL!!!!

ROFLMAO!!!!!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Define "lots", and how does that compare to the rate of extinctions from, say, 25,000 years ago?

 

[hotdog]

Man is causing global warming because I am causing it. Global warming has nothing to do with carbon emmisions. Global warming is caused by my satellites. I am buying up a lot of realistate across the world. Once the sea level rises the land I own will be the new coast for a lot of different countries. I intend to make trillions off of global warming. I have invested heavily into renewable energy. Once politicians start turning america green my investments will skyrocket but it won't do the world any good. The more they try to solved global warming the worst it will get intell I make enough money. Then when every country is green I will start the process of global cooling. Except it won't stop getting colder intell the governments of the world have to spend trillions to prevent it. I will have all ready invested my fortune off of global warming into the technologies designed to stop global cooling. After I make a fortune off of global cooling I will end all climate change. Everyone will freak out when the climate doesn't change at all. The world will be neither hot nor cold. The perfect climate will scare the world just as much. Lack of climate change will scare everyone into needing to find a solution to it.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Denier hoax.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

There are over 2 million known species, and an estimated 200 million total. To approach even 1% extinctions the rate would have to increase by at least 3 if not 4 orders of magnitude.

Good Luck just pulled these figures out of his ass.

3 or 4 orders of magnitude over what period of time? There cannot be a rate without a period of time. If you are comparing the current extinctions over the past year to previous extinctions that occurred over thousands of years, obviously you are not doing your statistics right. Truth is, you have no fucking idea what the statistics are, and your just spewing what some idiot on AM radio spoonfed your infant mind.

Climate change denial is the greatest hoax humanity has ever had to suffer under, and I do not intend to let the greatest misinformation campaign in human history complete itself.

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

You really wanna go with "well...he started it" as your excuse for all the taunts and nastiness?

Just what I'd expect...





...from my five year old nephew.

The bottom line is...if you had the facts to defeat him and his evidence in an actual debate, then you'd be posting them instead of more petty "chicken little" bullshit...which of course speaks VOLUMES about your replies.

Again MORON... it was HIS ANALOGY. Discussing the analogy is NOT name calling. Calling you a moron for butting into the conversation with meaningless crap.... THAT is name calling.

If you actually bothered to read my responses, you would have seen that I did indeed rebut his position (speaking about the portion where we disagree)