Nice try, doesn't fly. When you made that comment, you weren't talking about what YOU believed. You were talking about your interpretation of the theory of evolution - which, btw, was really embarassing & hilarious.
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Nice try, doesn't fly. When you made that comment, you weren't talking about what YOU believed. You were talking about your interpretation of the theory of evolution - which, btw, was really embarassing & hilarious.
Greenie nonsense...
Nothing there that hasn't happened in the past,....nothing.
The normal ebb and flow of nature,...its been going on for eons
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The predictions were nonsense 30 years ago and they are nonsense now....
Sure - man has no effect whatsoever on pollution or loss of habitat or species extintion or the food chain. Just the normal ebb & flow.
I'm not even an extreme greenie; I'm not an AGW guy. I'm fairly reasonable overall on what needs to be done.
But man, I have never read such ignorance.
Never read such ignorance ?
Then re-read your own posts for some insight....and then re-read mine....I can't seem to find where I said "man has no effect whatsoever on pollution or loss of habitat or species extintion or the food chain."
OH...I know why...its because I didn't say any of that...
Assuming man has been around for about 10,000 years, they have had an effect on nature for all that time...everything in existence has its particular effect on nature in its way....big woop...we've cleaned the environment as well as polluted it....
your fear mongering and predicted calamities have been exposed as the bullshit it really is, peer reviewed and all........get over it....and don't litter.
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The Almighty
Yes, I think our population growth is sustainable. As I stated, I think the way we live can certainly be improved upon, but it will not so long as the chicken littles of the world continue chanting their extreme bullshit.
As for the dead zones... yes, I have read up on them... have YOU?
The very funny thing about the dead zones is what is causing them.
We have a single study out now that states the worlds oceans are losing phytoplankton at an alarming rate and that the entire worlds oceanic food chain could be decimated because of it.
Thus... big decreases in phytoplankton = bad for ocean
http://www.theecologist.org/News/ne...e_food_chain_hit_by_ocean_global_warming.html
Which brings us back to the dead zones.....
Studies have shown that the dead zones are a result of too many phytoplankton which drop organic materials, which are consumed by bacteria, which use up all the oxygen thus making it intolerable to other species dependent upon oxygen.... thus creating the dead zones.
Thus... big increases in phytoplankton = bad for ocean life
http://disc.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/ocean...an-color/science_focus.shtml/dead_zones.shtml
I wonder why people tend to dismiss the chicken littles... separate studies... both proclaiming doom... both focus on phytoplankton.... but one says too many causing catastrophic dead zones, the other states too few causing catastrophic effects to food chain.
Jeez, Freak - you have really become a master of the "cop out" answer.
I'm not going to answer for every erroneous study you can find out there. The dead zone in the Gulf is caused by agricultural & industrial runoff from the surrounding land areas, period. I haven't seen the "too much photoplankton" study, and I'm not going to go to the mat over it.
All you are saying is "there are too many studies, and because of that, all are rendered meaningless, so it's impossible to really know anything about our environment & how to protect it. Carry on as you were..."
I'm not going to answer for every erroneous study you can find out there. The dead zone in the Gulf is caused by agricultural & industrial runoff from the surrounding land areas, period. I haven't seen the "too much photoplankton" study, and I'm not going to go to the mat over it.
All you are saying is "there are too many studies, and because of that, all are rendered meaningless, so it's impossible to really know anything about our environment & how to protect it. Carry on as you were..."
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The Almighty
READ THE FUCKING REPORT.... it states quite clearly the reason the phytoplankton are increasing in coastal areas are indeed a result of the ag runoff (which is food for the phytoplankton to process)... which is why the dead zones are typically around coastlines/mouths of rivers. I am not stating that there aren't things we can do to improve the environment, the point is that two separate groups are proclaiming DOOM for the oceans and they are counter intuitive. One says too many, the other too few phytoplankton.
I did not state there are 'too many studies'... I pointed to TWO studies and showed why people tend to dismiss the doomers as chicken littles.
You just want to create a straw man at this point because you are pissed that I just used your two points (dead zones and oceanic food chain in trouble) against you.
Now... even though these two reports individually spell DOOM.... what can we learn from the two reports together?
1) We know that certain areas of the oceans are seeing a decline in phytoplankton and that decline is a concern due to phytoplankton's consumption of CO2 and their relevance in the food chain.
2) We know that certain areas are seeing too many phytoplankton which is also a concern due to other species inability to survive in the bacteria heavy dead zones.
3) We know the dead zones are largely a product of ag run off
4) We know the phytoplankton thrive off of the ag run off and reproduce rapidly when exposed to it.
Do you see where this is leading yet?
Do you see why we don't need the constant fear mongering?
what is the solution Lorax?
Man, I'm glad I'm a person of great faith. 
The solution is to revolutionize the way we live, accelerate the transition to reusable, renewable sources of fuel, evaluate environmental impact and actually address it with every new development and expansion of industry, and generally change the way we live in a wholescale kind of way, to one that evolves our relationship with the planet from parasitic to symbiotic. Oh, and yes - someone had better figure something out in terms of addressing exponential population growth.
If we don't, then DOOM. You heard it hear first.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
We don't need to solutions to non-problems.
You just want to decrease the american standard of living, and so you advocate AGW lies to justify your hate.
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The Almighty
While I do not disagree with your first paragraph, you like most of the DOOMERS completely missed the connection, even AFTER I pretty much spelled it out for you.
We KNOW what causes the phytoplankton to rapidly reproduce in an area. Ya think... just for a second... THINK... we might be able to use that knowledge to help increase the oceans phytoplankton levels in areas that are being depleted so that DOOM doesn't occur?
We KNOW what causes the dead zones to appear and grow.... ya THINK... again, just for a second... THINK... we might be able to use that knowledge to reduce the ag run off in those areas to reverse the trend and avoid the DOOM?
and yes... I know the second one is part of what you are referring to. But overall... it is the knee jerk doomer reactions that need to be abolished.
heard it hear first ????
Hardly....we heard it 30-40 years ago...same bullshit then and same sullshit now....how many times do you have to be pwned before you give it a rest?
Over population ?
Thats is self fixing without any interference from the do good fools.
zappasguitar
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And your comments MIGHT be believable...if only...
...if only you could go even one single post without the demeaning putdowns
...if only you had it in you to reply without the insulting little cheapshots
but hey...you go right on with the taunts and the other nonsense...I've come to expect it from Dix and bravo, but I have to admit it REALLY makes you look so very much smarter when you can't go one single post without resorting to the same old tactics.
btw...let's not forget how the story of Chicken Little ends...the people who taunted him were proven WRONG and he was vindicated.
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The Almighty
And your comments MIGHT be believable...if only...
...if only you could go even one single post without the demeaning putdowns
...if only you had it in you to reply without the insulting little cheapshots
but hey...you go right on with the taunts and the other nonsense...I've come to expect it from Dix and bravo, but I have to admit it REALLY makes you look so very much smarter when you can't go one single post without resorting to the same old tactics.
btw...let's not forget how the story of Chicken Little ends...the people who taunted him were proven WRONG and he was vindicated.
1) To begin... the chicken little comments were a continuation of what Lorax began... it was his comparison I was using.
2) Even if I state 'you are a moron' (which in your case is accurate) it doesn't alter the validity of the facts presented, though admittedly it may diminish how others view me personally.
3) As for the Chicken little story... you obviously do not grasp the moral of the story, which is the same as the boy who cried wolf. If you continually cry wolf or 'the sky is falling' and continually you are wrong, eventually people will stop listening to you. When that happens, if a REAL danger does approach, they are not going to believe you. So be sure that when you cry wolf... a wolf is really there.
zappasguitar
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You really wanna go with "well...he started it" as your excuse for all the taunts and nastiness?
Just what I'd expect...
...from my five year old nephew.
The bottom line is...if you had the facts to defeat him and his evidence in an actual debate, then you'd be posting them instead of more petty "chicken little" bullshit...which of course speaks VOLUMES about your replies.
Well, I'll be damn....Zappa the Pinhead actually negative reps me for this post....with this explanation...
Can you beat that...
No insults in my post..vitriolic or otherwise
No vulgarity in my post...(for a change)
No putdowns for Onecell, not really ....and
No bullshit....
and he has the balls to neg.rep me....?
Zap to the rescue for little ole Onecell....
Zappa, me lad.....you ARE the weakest link(and a pinhead)
I didn't even have to read it. LOL you're a joke. MSNBC LOL!