Claim: Whites are safer in diverse neighborhoods

as someone that has grown up in a no crime 96.5% white town, LOL.

man they must really think we are stupid these days.
 
The Zax said:
as someone that has grown up in a no crime 96.5% white town, LOL.

man they must really think we are stupid these days.
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it's just a really weird way to spin the information. Basically he's saying if you live in wealthy white enclaves you're ok. If you live in poor white neighborhoods you're not. But he won't actually say that.
 
blackascoal said:
You won't hear it because most reporting doesn't go to that depth.

There are white people .. and then there are other white people who don't like non-white people. No mystery there.

Which one would you think works better in diverse communities?
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fwiw, I posted several articles for you but maybe didn't quote you so it may not show up on your screen.
 
cawacko said:
Check out these letters written on gentrification in Denver BAC, especially the first one. Again nothing on republicans or democrats. That's not what this is about.


http://www.denverpost.com/2017/06/23/readers-weigh-in-on-gentrification-of-denver-neighborhoods/
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With all due respect my friend .. this isn't my first dance on gentrification or the question of whites moving into black communities. I don't care how many articles you find that don't mention the republicans or right-wingers .. common sense should tell you that whites who don't like non-white people are not going to blend into those communities as well as whites who never left because they were never afraid of black people.

I interact with many such whites, talked to them about this issue .. especially given the upcoming election and some of them have problems with right-wingers moving into our collective communities.

If this doesn't make sense to you, I'm good with you not believing it .. but you asked for my perspective and I gave it to you.
 
blackascoal said:
With all due respect my friend .. this isn't my first dance on gentrification or the question of whites moving into black communities. I don't care how many articles you find that don't mention the republicans or right-wingers .. common sense should tell you that whites who don't like non-white people are not going to blend into those communities as well as whites who never left because they were never afraid of black people.

I interact with many such whites, talked to them about this issue .. especially given the upcoming election and some of them have problems with right-wingers moving into our collective communities.

If this doesn't make sense to you, I'm good with you not believing it .. but you asked for my perspective and I gave it to you.
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I've worked in real estate for 25 years and have lived in multiple big cities. I have read dozens upon dozens upon dozens of articles on gentrification and I have never read one where the political belief of the gentrifiers came up. You're asking us to dispend our belief and think hipsters, gays, artists are all Republicans.

The issue of gentrification is an economic one and a changing of culture and community.

You obviously don't have to read anything but I don't know that you have read these articles because you aren't talking about any of the points they bring up.
 
cawacko said:
I've worked in real estate for 25 years and have lived in multiple big cities. I have read dozens upon dozens upon dozens of articles on gentrification and I have never read one where the political belief of the gentrifiers came up. You're asking us to dispend our belief and think hipsters, gays, artists are all Republicans.

The issue of gentrification is an economic one and a changing of culture and community.

You obviously don't have to read anything but I don't know that you have read these articles because you aren't talking about any of the points they bring up.
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I've been dealing with this issue all my adult life. I see it clearly right now right in front of my face.

The issue of gentrification is broad .. and it is my experience that even the word 'gentrification' elicits arguments and divisiveness .. none of which are helpful to resolution and understanding. I tend not to use it in discussion.

I see the issue as more cultural than racial .. thus easier to discuss than issues purely about race.

I'm not completely discounting the articles you've posted, I'm saying there is more to this issue than meets the eye of many.
 
blackascoal said:
I've been dealing with this issue all my adult life. I see it clearly right now right in front of my face.

The issue of gentrification is broad .. and it is my experience that even the word 'gentrification' elicits arguments and divisiveness .. none of which are helpful to resolution and understanding. I tend not to use it in discussion.

I see the issue as more cultural than racial .. thus easier to discuss than issues purely about race.

I'm not completely discounting the articles you've posted, I'm saying there is more to this issue than meets the eye of many.
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I don't disagree with you at all about gentrification being a loaded word.

The unfortunate reality is it continues to be used and evokes much passion in people. And as we see in Boyle Heights, not everyone wants their communities to be integrated. Whether it's rich white suburbs or poor Hispanic neighborhoods. For the most part we have free markets in housing so it's hard to stop economic forces at work.
 
Saw this article tonight BAC about gentrification in Durham, NC. I think the author is a socialist but I could be wrong. Durham is a very liberal area so these are Democratic positions who are supporting this.

If TTQ64 reads this I ask her the same question. If capitalism oppresses black folks why would democratic leaders in the area support what's happening here?


http://www.newblackmaninexile.net/2013/10/gentrification-rocks-north-carolinas.html?m=1
 
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