Chuck Norris Super Star speaks on ObamaCare

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Repent, America!
Now that Obama has been re-elected and Democrats still control the Senate, Republicans no longer have the chance to repeal Obamacare.

But all is not lost. There’s still an opportunity for America to stop this disaster by choking the life out of the federal monstrosity. Obama’s signature legislative achievement is likely headed back to the Supreme Court.

Just last week, the high court ordered a lower federal court to take up a lawsuit by the patriots at Liberty University, who claim Congress violated the college’s religious freedoms by forcing it to provide federally mandated insurance and requiring payment for abortion-related services.

Liberty University also argues that the individual mandate is unconstitutional because it infringes on the free exercise of religion by forcing citizens to fund abortion.

“God created human life. Its sanctity and dignity are protected by God,” said Mathew Staver, chairman of Liberty Counsel, who represents Liberty University in the case. “We have no right to take innocent human lives, and certainly we cannot be forced to fund the taking of innocent life — basically forced to fund murder. We can’t do that. That’s a line that we simply cannot cross.”

Staver is absolutely right: There’s no middle ground in this fight. Citizens and employers shouldn’t be forced to choose between obeying the law and honoring the Sixth Commandment.

This month, federal courts have blocked the Obama administration from imposing its contraceptive mandate on Tyndale, a Bible publisher, and O’Brien Industrial Holdings, a Missouri mining company. The Christian-owned craft chain, Hobby Lobby, is fighting a similar legal battle against the mandate. The company says fines could reach as much as $1 million a day if it doesn’t cover abortion-inducing drugs for its employees. About three-dozen Christian companies and colleges are fighting the mandate in court.

In June, President Obama said, “(Insurance companies) are required to provide free preventive care like checkups and mammograms … .” The law also subsidizes care for people who pay more than 8 percent of their income for health insurance.

But Obamacare isn’t “free.” The money must come from somewhere. Even if patients don’t pay for their health care directly, Americans face higher taxes to fund the facilities, doctors and services.

When consumers perceive health care to be “free,” they use more medical services and create an overwhelming demand for them — which will eventually exceed supply. Then, government will be faced with a limited number of options: 1) ration health services, 2) increase the cost of your health care or 3) ignore the issue, as patients’ access to health care is severely restricted.

We see these issues arise in other countries with national health care. Patients in Britain and Canada often face long wait times — even in emergency rooms — to receive basic care that’s so accessible here in the U.S. In fact, Europeans and Canadians are known to travel to the U.S. rather than wait for their own health services.

My wife, Gena, and I have been to other countries that have socialized medicine, and it doesn’t work out well for people. When we visited Russia some 15 years ago, a young lady in her 20s suffered from a toothache. When asked why she didn’t see a dentist, the woman said the care is too expensive and even seeing a doctor could mean waiting eight months to a year.

To make matters worse, Obamacare calls for establishment of an Independent Payment Advisory Board, made up of 15 unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats who make a wide range of health care decisions — including the ability to approve or deny medical treatments recommended by your doctors.

It’s no wonder so many states are outright refusing to cooperate with Washington on this massive federal power grab.

Obama’s takeover calls for states to expand Medicaid, creating serious fiscal liabilities for the states if federal taxpayers don’t pick up the bill every year. Obamacare also requires states to develop governmental programs that will create online health “exchanges,” itemizing available health plans.

For Florida alone, “startup costs ‘are projected at $92.3 million’ through next year, and annual operating costs to the state — based on experience in Illinois — could range from $57.4 million to $88.6 million by 2016.”

States shudder at the thought of being saddled with the cost of running those exchanges, especially when they have so little local control under this federal program. They have until Dec. 14 to tell the Obama administration whether they will set up exchanges or default to a federal version.

In 2010, John Graham, director of health care studies at the Pacific Research Institute, urged states to boycott the exchanges.

“States establishing Obamacare exchanges are making a one-way, lose-lose bet,” he wrote. “If Obamacare persists, exchanges will become bloated administrative nightmares.”

Obama’s federal takeover of the nation’s health insurance is unconstitutional on its face. It exceeds Congress’ power to regulate commerce among the states. It expands the federal government’s authority beyond the enumerated powers listed in the Constitution. It threatens religious liberty, and it imposes an unconstitutional tax on Americans.

If we can’t repeal Obamacare in its entirety, let’s support each of these efforts to peel away every one of its unconstitutional layers to preserve our liberty, the quality of American health care and the fiscal stability of our nation.

Follow Chuck Norris through his official social media sites, on Twitter @chucknorris and Facebook’s “Official Chuck Norris Page.” He blogs at http://chucknorrisnews.blogspot.com.


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Now that Obama has been re-elected and Democrats still control the Senate, Republicans no longer have the chance to repeal Obamacare.

But all is not lost. There’s still an opportunity for America to stop this disaster by choking the life out of the federal monstrosity. Obama’s signature legislative achievement is likely headed back to the Supreme Court.

Just last week, the high court ordered a lower federal court to take up a lawsuit by the patriots at Liberty University, who claim Congress violated the college’s religious freedoms by forcing it to provide federally mandated insurance and requiring payment for abortion-related services.

Liberty University also argues that the individual mandate is unconstitutional because it infringes on the free exercise of religion by forcing citizens to fund abortion.

“God created human life. Its sanctity and dignity are protected by God,” said Mathew Staver, chairman of Liberty Counsel, who represents Liberty University in the case. “We have no right to take innocent human lives, and certainly we cannot be forced to fund the taking of innocent life — basically forced to fund murder. We can’t do that. That’s a line that we simply cannot cross.”

Staver is absolutely right: There’s no middle ground in this fight. Citizens and employers shouldn’t be forced to choose between obeying the law and honoring the Sixth Commandment.

This month, federal courts have blocked the Obama administration from imposing its contraceptive mandate on Tyndale, a Bible publisher, and O’Brien Industrial Holdings, a Missouri mining company. The Christian-owned craft chain, Hobby Lobby, is fighting a similar legal battle against the mandate. The company says fines could reach as much as $1 million a day if it doesn’t cover abortion-inducing drugs for its employees. About three-dozen Christian companies and colleges are fighting the mandate in court.

In June, President Obama said, “(Insurance companies) are required to provide free preventive care like checkups and mammograms … .” The law also subsidizes care for people who pay more than 8 percent of their income for health insurance.

But Obamacare isn’t “free.” The money must come from somewhere. Even if patients don’t pay for their health care directly, Americans face higher taxes to fund the facilities, doctors and services.

When consumers perceive health care to be “free,” they use more medical services and create an overwhelming demand for them — which will eventually exceed supply. Then, government will be faced with a limited number of options: 1) ration health services, 2) increase the cost of your health care or 3) ignore the issue, as patients’ access to health care is severely restricted.

We see these issues arise in other countries with national health care. Patients in Britain and Canada often face long wait times — even in emergency rooms — to receive basic care that’s so accessible here in the U.S. In fact, Europeans and Canadians are known to travel to the U.S. rather than wait for their own health services.

My wife, Gena, and I have been to other countries that have socialized medicine, and it doesn’t work out well for people. When we visited Russia some 15 years ago, a young lady in her 20s suffered from a toothache. When asked why she didn’t see a dentist, the woman said the care is too expensive and even seeing a doctor could mean waiting eight months to a year.

To make matters worse, Obamacare calls for establishment of an Independent Payment Advisory Board, made up of 15 unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats who make a wide range of health care decisions — including the ability to approve or deny medical treatments recommended by your doctors.

It’s no wonder so many states are outright refusing to cooperate with Washington on this massive federal power grab.

Obama’s takeover calls for states to expand Medicaid, creating serious fiscal liabilities for the states if federal taxpayers don’t pick up the bill every year. Obamacare also requires states to develop governmental programs that will create online health “exchanges,” itemizing available health plans.

For Florida alone, “startup costs ‘are projected at $92.3 million’ through next year, and annual operating costs to the state — based on experience in Illinois — could range from $57.4 million to $88.6 million by 2016.”

States shudder at the thought of being saddled with the cost of running those exchanges, especially when they have so little local control under this federal program. They have until Dec. 14 to tell the Obama administration whether they will set up exchanges or default to a federal version.

In 2010, John Graham, director of health care studies at the Pacific Research Institute, urged states to boycott the exchanges.

“States establishing Obamacare exchanges are making a one-way, lose-lose bet,” he wrote. “If Obamacare persists, exchanges will become bloated administrative nightmares.”

Obama’s federal takeover of the nation’s health insurance is unconstitutional on its face. It exceeds Congress’ power to regulate commerce among the states. It expands the federal government’s authority beyond the enumerated powers listed in the Constitution. It threatens religious liberty, and it imposes an unconstitutional tax on Americans.

If we can’t repeal Obamacare in its entirety, let’s support each of these efforts to peel away every one of its unconstitutional layers to preserve our liberty, the quality of American health care and the fiscal stability of our nation.

Follow Chuck Norris through his official social media sites, on Twitter @chucknorris and Facebook’s “Official Chuck Norris Page.” He blogs at http://chucknorrisnews.blogspot.com.


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"We see these issues arise in other countries with national health care. Patients in Britain and Canada often face long wait times — even in emergency rooms — to receive basic care that’s so accessible here in the U.S."

Compare Canada's death rate to the 45,000 people who die every year in the US due to a lack of medical coverage. The wait in emergency rooms is due to emergencies taking priority. What a surprise, huh? Someone who walks in with a runny nose is going to wait. You can count on it. The broken legs will go ahead of him and the heart attack patients will go ahead of the broken legs.

There is not ONE country where the citizens want their government medical rescinded and every country, without exception, started with a "pay or suffer" system. So people like Chucky can rant on and on about the poor quality of medical care and the terrible waiting time and the outrageous tax but there is not one prominent politician in any country campaigning on eliminating their government medical and we all know politicians will jump on any idea that might float.

The election is over so such nonsense has lost it's vitality. By the time '16 rolls around it will be a side issue assuming it's an issue at all. There is no turning back and the Repubs know that. That's why they fought so hard in the beginning. They know once the people become aware of the benefits and the scare tactics it's game over and that will happen long before the '16 election. Even today with some programs not on line the approval rating for ObamaCare has increased substantially since first introduced.

As for the court cases currently going forward they are a blessing in disguise. Any adjustments to ObamaCare will result in more government involvement in the program. If certain states or institutions want to distance themselves the Federal Government will step in to fill the void. They (states/institutions) can either co-operate and have a say in things or the Feds will simply make it a full blown government plan which is the goal anyway.

So, in the words of the Republican's favorite son, "Bring it on!" And in the words of the Dems, "To get along, you go along." :D
 
Why is it that right wingers put so much value in what professional entertainers say?

The Right Wingers still haven't come to terms with the loss. It's gone from "Of course we're going to win" to "we should have won. Look what (fill in the blank) says." They just don't realize how wrong they are.
 
Correction....'has beens'.

Lol...he might "have been" an actor (using the term loosely here) but I wouldn't scoff at his popularity even today, especially among teenagers. I work with teenagers every day from all areas and they seem to be infatuated with the man. Most can go right to websites housing information about him, can tell you his life history and always have those stupid Chuck Norris sayings like: Ghosts sit around the campfire and tell Chuck Norris stories OR Chuck Norris died 10 years ago but the Grim Reaper hasn't worked up the courage to tell him yet.

He might not have any political sway....or at least no more than any other actor, but he definitely still has a following, especially among teenagers.

Oh, to the OP, we all are looking for someone we agree with who might have more of a platform to talk than we do, left side or right side. He happens to speak a lot of what the right agrees with politically, which is not the norm from his profession.
 
Again, the 45,000 myth has been debunked six ways to Sunday. Again, are you ill informed or just plain dishonest?

Debunked by who? I'll take the CDC's word over any right wing blog.

"The study, which analyzed data from national surveys carried out by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), assessed death rates after taking into account education, income, and many other factors, including smoking, drinking, and obesity. It estimated that lack of health insurance causes 44,789 excess deaths annually."

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/sto...s-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/
 
Lol...he might "have been" an actor (using the term loosely here) but I wouldn't scoff at his popularity even today, especially among teenagers. I work with teenagers every day from all areas and they seem to be infatuated with the man. Most can go right to websites housing information about him, can tell you his life history and always have those stupid Chuck Norris sayings like: Ghosts sit around the campfire and tell Chuck Norris stories OR Chuck Norris died 10 years ago but the Grim Reaper hasn't worked up the courage to tell him yet.

He might not have any political sway....or at least no more than any other actor, but he definitely still has a following, especially among teenagers.

Oh, to the OP, we all are looking for someone we agree with who might have more of a platform to talk than we do, left side or right side. He happens to speak a lot of what the right agrees with politically, which is not the norm from his profession.
There was a time when his movies weren't so bad. For early martial arts movies...as least they had a plot. Of course, his hook kick to the head that would throw someone 5 feet in the air was never believable....but he was def. a talented martial artist. (Bruce Lee's asskicking notwithstanding)

As well, he did a lot for Tae Kwon Do in this country. His schools were top notch, and he did well during the 'Karate Kid' boom in the 80's/90's.

But then, he didn't open his yap about his political views. Probably because republicans were busy destroying the nation back then. Not a peep out of him.
 
Why is it that right wingers put so much value in what professional entertainers say?


But it's ONLY entertainers who say WHAT RIGHT WINGERS WANT, that are valued by the Republican party.

Remember the Dixie Chicks?

Whiny Righties pissed and moaned to High Heaven about them, then turn around and fawn all over entertainers like Chuck Norris or Ted Nugent.
 
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Again, the 45,000 myth has been debunked six ways to Sunday. Again, are you ill informed or just plain dishonest?

You know what they say, figures don't lie but liars figure. If you want to believe Harvard just threw a little something together by all means go ahead. As depressing as all this anti-OmamaCare talk is the country is finally on the right road.

A Supreme Court ruling, an election....are the Repubs waiting for Jesus Christ, Himself, to tell them it's the proper thing to do?
 
"We see these issues arise in other countries with national health care. Patients in Britain and Canada often face long wait times — even in emergency rooms — to receive basic care that’s so accessible here in the U.S."

Compare Canada's death rate to the 45,000 people who die every year in the US due to a lack of medical coverage. The wait in emergency rooms is due to emergencies taking priority. What a surprise, huh? Someone who walks in with a runny nose is going to wait. You can count on it. The broken legs will go ahead of him and the heart attack patients will go ahead of the broken legs.

There is not ONE country where the citizens want their government medical rescinded and every country, without exception, started with a "pay or suffer" system. So people like Chucky can rant on and on about the poor quality of medical care and the terrible waiting time and the outrageous tax but there is not one prominent politician in any country campaigning on eliminating their government medical and we all know politicians will jump on any idea that might float.

The election is over so such nonsense has lost it's vitality. By the time '16 rolls around it will be a side issue assuming it's an issue at all. There is no turning back and the Repubs know that. That's why they fought so hard in the beginning. They know once the people become aware of the benefits and the scare tactics it's game over and that will happen long before the '16 election. Even today with some programs not on line the approval rating for ObamaCare has increased substantially since first introduced.

As for the court cases currently going forward they are a blessing in disguise. Any adjustments to ObamaCare will result in more government involvement in the program. If certain states or institutions want to distance themselves the Federal Government will step in to fill the void. They (states/institutions) can either co-operate and have a say in things or the Feds will simply make it a full blown government plan which is the goal anyway.

So, in the words of the Republican's favorite son, "Bring it on!" And in the words of the Dems, "To get along, you go along." :D

cite the figures for canada and the us death rate. i would be interested to see that.
 
cite the figures for canada and the us death rate. i would be interested to see that.

Before we go all over the field let's be clear. My post was in response to Conservative saying countries with government health care have long waiting lists and I responded that deaths from having to wait were insignificant compared to the deaths in the US which does not have a government plan. The US death rate is 45,000/yr. If you are claiming countries with government plans have a correspondingly high death rate the onus is on you to cite.

Nice try, Yurt. ;)
 
A Supreme Court ruling, an election....are the Repubs waiting for Jesus Christ, Himself, to tell them it's the proper thing to do?

Sarah Palin, Rick Santorum, Pat Robinson and a handful of other kooks said God told them Romney would win the election. We see how that went, don't we?

Damn liberal socialist commie fags stole the election right out from under God!
 
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