Christians rush to help Oklahoma

It's not really wrong. It's just not very useful, shows a lack of empathy and is rather self interested. It's an example of giving something you want the other to have not what they need. How does it help atheists, Hindus, Buddhists or even Muslims and Jews? Frankly, I think it's a bit lower than if McDonald's offered them all a free soda with purchase of a burger and fries. At least the value of the soda is a bit more universal.
 
Professor Baxter said:
It's not really wrong. It's just not very useful, shows a lack of empathy and is rather self interested.
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just the opposite....she's offering that which she feels most valuable.....I would say that demonstrates a lot of empathy......

would you attack an Avon lady if she offered to send 1000 women who lost everything each a $25 package of makeup?........what if Apple offered 1000 ipads?......just because you wouldn't get in line for a free bible doesn't mean there aren't a thousand people out there who might appreciate getting one if theirs has been lost......

Professor Baxter said:
How does it help atheists, Hindus, Buddhists or even Muslims and Jews?
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/grins....more than you'd ever be willing to recognize......
 
Professor Baxter said:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friend...-may-be-the-least-useful-oklahoma-fundraiser/

Moore, Oklahoma was struck by an EF5 tornado on May 20. Many people have nothing left. Lots of folks are helping with basic needs, but they also need Bibles. I found a place that will sell me Bibles for $1 each, if I buy at least 1,000 Bibles. I want to buy more Bibles than that. Please help me get Bibles to the people of Moore, Oklahoma who have lost everything!
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I think Jesus would be giving them loaves and fishes, not Bibles.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
just the opposite....she's offering that which she feels most valuable.....I would say that demonstrates a lot of empathy......
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It's most valuable to her. You clearly don't know what empathy means.

PostmodernProphet said:
would you attack an Avon lady if she offered to send 1000 women who lost everything each a $25 package of makeup?........what if Apple offered 1000 ipads?......just because you wouldn't get in line for a free bible doesn't mean there aren't a thousand people out there who might appreciate getting one if theirs has been lost......
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I would not attack them nor have I attacked anyone else. I would see their act of "charity" for what it really is, an attempt to promote their own interests.

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/grins....more than you'd ever be willing to recognize......
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See, there you go. You don't give a damn about what others might value, want or need. It's all about you and your values. That's not charity, it is an attempt to proselytize and control.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
???...and yet, because you don't value a Bible you assume there aren't a thousand people in Moore who might.......
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Not even close to what I have argued. Yes, SOME people will value it and apparently you only care about helping those people. It's not very charitable.

PostmodernProphet said:
you felt it necessary to start this thread condemning her but you haven't attacked anyone.......I guess that depends on what your definition of "isn't" isn't.....
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No, it depends on the definition of attack. Your's is hypersensitive and based on your whiny persecution complex.
 
What is most interesting if that the Liberal mind cannot fathom the difference between people GIVING of themselves to help others and Government TAKING from someone else to "give" to another.

It is a fascinating pathology.
 
Unless this guy is running some type of financial scam I don't understand the issue here. It doesn't hurt anyone so how is it a bad thing? If someone was passing out the Quran I wouldn't take one but I wouldn't be offended by it and wouldnt be offended if someone decided they wanted one. And from a libertarian perspective I'm really not seeing the issue here.
 
cawacko said:
Unless this guy is running some type of financial scam I don't understand the issue here. It doesn't hurt anyone so how is it a bad thing? If someone was passing out the Quran I wouldn't take one but I wouldn't be offended by it and wouldnt be offended if someone decided they wanted one. And from a libertarian perspective I'm really not seeing the issue here.
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Not sure if anyone has expressed offence here, C. (ooh hark at me sounding like that gangster chap off of A Bronx Tale)

More a case of practicality really. What's a more useful way of donating your spare cash - bibles or food/shelter/clothing?
 
Roo said:
What is most interesting if that the Liberal mind cannot fathom the difference between people GIVING of themselves to help others and Government TAKING from someone else to "give" to another.

It is a fascinating pathology.
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What does this have do with the government? Where does that comparison even enter into it?

You are the one with the pathology as you are projecting motives and claims in order to hear a segue into your own narrative. But you are just babbling non sequiturs.
 
charver said:
Not sure if anyone has expressed offence here, C. (ooh hark at me sounding like that gangster chap off of A Bronx Tale)

More a case of practicality really. What's a more useful way of donating your spare cash - bibles or food/shelter/clothing?
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You make an excellent gangster charver.

From an allocation of resources I understand that food and shelter provide more than a bible. With the belief that each person can spend their money how they choose if they want to spend $1 on a bible I have no problem with it. And while that bible may not provide shelter to a family it might provide spiritual comfort a family needs in its time of loss. That you can't really put a price tag on.
 
Professor Baxter said:
It's not really wrong. It's just not very useful, shows a lack of empathy and is rather self interested. It's an example of giving something you want the other to have not what they need. How does it help atheists, Hindus, Buddhists or even Muslims and Jews? Frankly, I think it's a bit lower than if McDonald's offered them all a free soda with purchase of a burger and fries. At least the value of the soda is a bit more universal.
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http://www.macon.com/2013/05/21/2486859/southern-baptists-prepare-to-send.html
 
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