Chris Matthews

cawacko

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Just saw him speak. He wrote a new book on Jack Kennedy. At 39 years old I'm no spring chicken but out of the 1,000 people in attendance I saw maybe three people younger than me (not surprising of course because a book on Kennedy would attract an older crowd and most younger people are at work).

Interesting stories on JFK including could he get elected today with the health problems he had and specifically with being on steroids. Said because of the amount of time he had to spend alone as a kid due to his health issues he hated being alone as he got older. It was one reason he cheated so much and he often invited other couples over for dinner so it wasn't just he and Jackie. This was not because he didn't like Jackie he just wanted more people there. Also had a buddy who lived with them at the White House so he would always have a friend there. Hadn't heard that before. Would be pretty cool to be that guy. "Yeah, I'm living at the White House right now..."

Matthews said Obama has no real friends in Congress, that he is alone. Said he needs someone that will go on TV and have his back. He said if Obama losses the election Democrats will lose Congress so they need to work together.

Working for MSNBC and speaking in San Francisco he had to give some liberal shout outs. Said Republicans are idiots. Said they are anti-intellectual and anti-science. Said the Republican bench is better than the starting team of Cain, Palin, Bachmann etc. Made fun of Fox News.

(He did talk about how corrupt Joe Kennedy was and how JFK did not want to be like him in that regard. I believe Bfgrn may have had a heart attack if he was there to hear that.)
 
Astounding. Chris Matthews made fun of Fox News. I wonder if he also stuck his tongue out at them. I guess the reason Fox News kicks his ass every week in the ratings is because of all the stupid people. Yeah, that's it. Liberals as so damn childish.
 
Yes all the uneducated white trash like alias is who faux news is after. Msnbc has less numbers cause their audience is college grads.
 
I don't doubt that one bit. Obama's their "house negro". If he loses the white house they will abandon him like a flat tire.

Abandon him? He'd be a fucking "ex-president", with Secret Service protection for life. Did they abandon Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton? Hell no.
 
Astounding. Chris Matthews made fun of Fox News. I wonder if he also stuck his tongue out at them. I guess the reason Fox News kicks his ass every week in the ratings is because of all the stupid people. Yeah, that's it. Liberals as so damn childish.

Right. As if you had the credentials to point out who is being childish, and who is not....just examine your own post for the hypocrisy.
What are ratings if they only serve to verify that the people watching "lies and deceit", in lieu of " real, unbiased news", are more in number than the intelligent populace?
 
Right. As if you had the credentials to point out who is being childish, and who is not....just examine your own post for the hypocrisy.
What are ratings if they only serve to verify that the people watching "lies and deceit", in lieu of " real, unbiased news", are more in number than the intelligent populace?

So the reason Fox news has higher ratings than MSNBC is because all the stupid people watch Fox news. Right? I bet they're all racists and homophobes too. Right?
 
Clever way to tell us you watch Fox News....
So you really are a FOX FAN.......Kool.....but save your money on that bet....and learn the rules concerning spelling proper names....

Forgive me, I didn't know I was being tested on spelling here. Next time, could you give me a heads up? Thanks.
 
Astounding. Chris Matthews made fun of Fox News. I wonder if he also stuck his tongue out at them. I guess the reason Fox News kicks his ass every week in the ratings is because of all the stupid people. Yeah, that's it. Liberals as so damn childish.


I still remember Matthews ranting and raving about how Medicare was free.....talk about stupid and putting your foot in your mouth.....
 
Interesting stuff, cawacko. Didn't know any of that about Kennedy.

I kind of figured when you put Matthews name in the title that it would become a thread about him & not the content, but the content is cool....
 
Just joshing .....I'd thought I'd take over for grammar Nazi Darla in her absence....

You understand that Darla was correcting you because you made a big deal about Jarod's spelling, right?

I mean - that's really strange, bravs.
 
You understand that Darla was correcting you because you made a big deal about Jarod's spelling, right?

I mean - that's really strange, bravs.


You understand she was wrongfully accusing me of using ellipses in my posts, right ?
 
You understand she was wrongfully accusing me of using ellipses in my posts, right ?


You understand that you if you want to pause you just stop typing, right? You just pause. No need to rest a finger on the period key. Just stop doing stuff. Pause. It's OK. Really. Give it a try, sport!
 
Abandon him? He'd be a fucking "ex-president", with Secret Service protection for life. Did they abandon Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton? Hell no.

I think the reference would be to his 'allies' in Congress leaving him. No one mentioned Secret Service.
 
Just saw him speak. He wrote a new book on Jack Kennedy. At 39 years old I'm no spring chicken but out of the 1,000 people in attendance I saw maybe three people younger than me (not surprising of course because a book on Kennedy would attract an older crowd and most younger people are at work).

Interesting stories on JFK including could he get elected today with the health problems he had and specifically with being on steroids. Said because of the amount of time he had to spend alone as a kid due to his health issues he hated being alone as he got older. It was one reason he cheated so much and he often invited other couples over for dinner so it wasn't just he and Jackie. This was not because he didn't like Jackie he just wanted more people there. Also had a buddy who lived with them at the White House so he would always have a friend there. Hadn't heard that before. Would be pretty cool to be that guy. "Yeah, I'm living at the White House right now..."

Matthews said Obama has no real friends in Congress, that he is alone. Said he needs someone that will go on TV and have his back. He said if Obama losses the election Democrats will lose Congress so they need to work together.

Working for MSNBC and speaking in San Francisco he had to give some liberal shout outs. Said Republicans are idiots. Said they are anti-intellectual and anti-science. Said the Republican bench is better than the starting team of Cain, Palin, Bachmann etc. Made fun of Fox News.

(He did talk about how corrupt Joe Kennedy was and how JFK did not want to be like him in that regard. I believe Bfgrn may have had a heart attack if he was there to hear that.)

I am not surprised at accusations about Joe Sr. He was not lilly white, but he did make it through Congressional confirmation hearings. Any corruption of substance would have been brought out by his many enemies.

Lem Billings had a room at the White House. He was JFK's best friend from Choate prep school. Lem was gay.

“That John Kennedy maintained a deep friendship with a man whom he knew to be gay, and did so in an age of homophobia—at great potential risk to his political career and reputation—is an extraordinary demonstration of loyalty and commitment,” writes David Pitts, author of the first full account of what he characterizes as “a love story unknown to most Americans.” But, he reminds us, “risk avoidance was not part of Jack Kennedy’s DNA.”

At Choate, boys who were interested in sexual involvement with other boys were courteous and discreet, writing notes on toilet paper so they could be easily swallowed or flushed. Early on in their friendship, Lem sent Jack such a note and Jack replied in their usual jocular way, adding in parentheses, “Please don’t write to me on toilet paper any more. I’m not that kind of boy.” With that out of the way, their relationship continued essentially unchanged until JFK’s assassination thirty years later. When circumstances determined that Lem and Jack would attend different colleges, they kept in touch by telegram, sometimes dispatching up to seven a day, and they spent their weekends together in New York City.

Throughout his life, Jack Kennedy coped with incapacity and severe pain from his various ailments—Addison’s disease, colitis, hepatitis, malaria, recurring infections, and a bad back. Lem knew how to help Jack with all his old problems—and keep them confidential. Jack’s medical tribulations are a frequent subject of his amusing early letters to Lem, some of which are quoted in Nigel Hamilton’s 1992 book JFK: Reckless Youth.

The two friends’ relationship remained essentially unchanged even when Kennedy became president. He offered Billings a choice of administration posts, but Billings, who worked in advertising and was once offered a job as the Marlboro Man, preferred to buy and restore old houses. He stayed frequently in the White House, where he had his own room; only he, the President, and Jackie required no White House pass. He traveled and holidayed regularly with Kennedy, who would often introduce him to foreign dignitaries as “Admiral Billings” or “Undersecretary Billings.”

Jack Kennedy, it seems, was perfectly comfortable around gay people. Another gay friend, aviation adviser Langdon Marvin, recalls a discussion that took place while Kennedy was in the bath, with Sinatra singing “All or Nothing at All” on the record player. And seeing Leonard Bernstein and Igor Stravinsky exchanging kisses on both cheeks at a state dinner, Jack asked, “How about me?”

Although heterosexual, Kennedy’s interest was in sexual conquest rather than in “spending much time with women.” He enjoyed the company of bold, intelligent men who had a good sense of humor. “I just seem to be attracted by men like that,” he said. “Maybe it’s chemical.” He told an aide, “I only got married because I was 37 and people would think I was queer.” When he did marry, his wife got along well with Billings, who sometimes had to explain Jack to Jackie—or vice versa. It’s easy to forget that in JFK’s era, the press was far less intrusive than today. Pitts remarks that Kennedy’s aides “knew that the press would never print a story about the President’s best friend being gay—no more than they would print anything about his extramarital affairs.” Or the precarious state of his health.

After Robert Kennedy’s assassination, Billings became a surrogate father to Bobby Jr. and other Kennedy boys, several of whom have spoken of Billings with great affection. His leadership helped establish the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts and the John F. Kennedy Library. Senator Ted Kennedy described the friendship between his brother and Billings as “a bond of perfect trust and understanding that served them all their lives.” Eunice Kennedy Shriver is quoted as saying that “President Kennedy was a completely liberated man when he was with Lem.” Another friend remarks of the two men’s relationship, “it was love, and not all love has to be consummated.”

Jack & Lem: The Untold Story of an Extraordinary Friendship, John F. Kennedy and Lem Billings

When JFK was assassinated in Dallas, Lem was in New York City. When Bobby Kennedy, whom Lem was also close to, died, it is said that Lem became exceedingly depressed. Rumor states that Billings began to drink heavily after this. Billings maintained close ties to the Kennedys and their children through his life. The older Kennedys made it clear that the younger Kennedys (Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., David Kennedy, and Christopher Lawford, to be specific) should stop keeping company with Billings. They felt that he drank and used recreational drugs too much. Regardless, Lem was like a father to Bobby Jr. after his father’s assassination.

Lem Billings died in his sleep following a heart attack on May 28, 1981. Lem’s dying wish was for the young Kennedy men to carry his coffin, but when the Kennedy men arrived at the cemetery, the casket was already in place, ready to be lowered. The young Kennedys retrieved the coffin from its position and carried it around the gravesite before returning it to the burial plot.

Jack & Lem: A life-long friendship


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I was wrong? LOL

Someone's butt is stinging from a spanking. Don't like being schooled by a woman do you Bravo? Too bad.


Actually, I love being schooled by a women.......and I'll bet you'd be just the one with the experience to do it......oink!

I asked you to point out ANY POST in that thread, that demonstrated your accusation....you didn't.....you can't......and you won't.......because you fucked up and were wrong....

But the offer is still open......I'll be around......
 
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