Chomsky and Aristotle on the Common Good

Mr.Mason said:
So you Support Trump treason
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No one has proven trump engaged in treason let alone convicted him of it. Oh wait is this one of those leftist things where you people believe something is true because you think it's true? Yeah, just so you know, normal people don't think like that.
 
Yakuda said:
No one has proven trump engaged in treason let alone convicted him of it. Oh wait is this one of those leftist things where you people believe something is true because you think it's true? Yeah, just so you know, normal people don't think like that.
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There's video dumb ass,for all the world to see!
 
BidenPresident said:
The misuse of "democracy" as pure democracy is discussed by Aristotle. He calls pure democracy a system where by mere population the majority confiscates the property of the few. But what Aristotle means by democracy is that the majority do have a right to make laws on how wealth is managed. For the good of democracy, the wealthy class does have to yield some power to the majority.
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The only democracy Aristotle and Plato knew was Athenian direct democracy, so called "pure" democracy. Their basic criticism was that it fostered anarchy. Western representative democracy was seeded in the English parliament, flowered in the American Constitution and is the only kind of national democracy in the modern world, but it did not exist in Aristotle's time.
 
BidenPresident said:
False. It was closer to an aristocracy. That is, the aristocratic class had a democracy among themselves.
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All male citizens of Athens could vote, and citizenship descended from birth.. I didn't mention Rome, however, which did have a form of representative democracy.
 
martin said:
Leftist Derangement Syndrome (LDS).
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Latter Day Saints dick face.

Gore, the talking pig in a pant suit and the fat.ciw abrams all questioned election results but never a word from you cockroaches about the risk they posed to your supposed beloved democracy. Honest to God if you people had the capacity to think you're heads would explode I believe that's why God made leftists so stupid.
 
Yakuda said:
Latter Day Saints dick face.

Gore, the talking pig in a pant suit and the fat.ciw abrams all questioned election results but never a word from you cockroaches about the risk they posed to your supposed beloved democracy. Honest to God if you people had the capacity to think you're heads would explode I believe that's why God made leftists so stupid.
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One trouble with people of small intelligence, like yourself, is an inability to draw distinctions. When the Supreme Court stopped the Florida recount with the vote margin below 1,000, Gore conceded. He did it on TV the next day and made a speech urging the country to unite under President Bush. Other elections too have been "questioned". None "questioned" like the last one, however, with almost half the country convinced by Trump and his surrogates
that "the election was stolen". Republicans have managed to maintain this story even though the election went as it was predicted to go, with Biden leading in the polls, all the polls, for months up to the time of the election. Trump remains the only defeated Presidential candidate who not only wouldn't concede but aroused supporters to physically interfere with the transfer of power.
 
martin said:
One trouble with people of small intelligence, like yourself, is an inability to draw distinctions. When the Supreme Court stopped the Florida recount with the vote margin below 1,000, Gore conceded. He did it on TV the next day and made a speech urging the country to unite under President Bush. Other elections too have been "questioned". None "questioned" like the last one, however, with almost half the country convinced by Trump and his surrogates
that "the election was stolen". Republicans have managed to maintain this story even though the election went as it was predicted to go, with Biden leading in the polls, all the polls, for months up to the time of the election. Trump remains the only defeated Presidential candidate who not only wouldn't concede but aroused supporters to physically interfere with the transfer of power.
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You are intelligent because that's how three year olds think. Good for you
 
martin said:
The only democracy Aristotle and Plato knew was Athenian direct democracy, so called "pure" democracy. Their basic criticism was that it fostered anarchy. Western representative democracy was seeded in the English parliament, flowered in the American Constitution and is the only kind of national democracy in the modern world, but it did not exist in Aristotle's time.
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In Athens the right to participate in the political life of the
polis was limited to what we would consider a narrow segment of the population. Participation was restricted to free
adult (18 or older) male citizens, thus excluding women,
resident aliens, and slaves. In practice, this limited participation to perhaps 10-20 percent of the population.

In 451
BCE, Pericles introduced a law further limiting participation,
by providing that one was an Athenian citizen only if both of
one’s parents were citizens; previously it was enough if one’s
father was a citizen. A person’s citizenship was determined
by reference to the Assembly List of his deme.
A citizen could lose the right to political participation as a
punishment for certain offenses, such as owing a debt to the
public treasury, prostitution, beating or failing to support his
father or mother, throwing away his shield in battle, or
squandering his inheritance.

http://homepages.gac.edu/~arosenth/265/Athenian_Democracy.pdf
 
BidenPresident said:
In Athens the right to participate in the political life of the
polis was limited to what we would consider a narrow segment of the population. Participation was restricted to free
adult (18 or older) male citizens, thus excluding women,
resident aliens, and slaves. In practice, this limited participation to perhaps 10-20 percent of the population.

In 451
BCE, Pericles introduced a law further limiting participation,
by providing that one was an Athenian citizen only if both of
one’s parents were citizens; previously it was enough if one’s
father was a citizen. A person’s citizenship was determined
by reference to the Assembly List of his deme.
A citizen could lose the right to political participation as a
punishment for certain offenses, such as owing a debt to the
public treasury, prostitution, beating or failing to support his
father or mother, throwing away his shield in battle, or
squandering his inheritance.

http://homepages.gac.edu/~arosenth/265/Athenian_Democracy.pdf
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From what I've read it was about 30 percent. I thought the question though was the type of democracy Aristotle observed and analyzed.
 
martin said:
From what I've read it was about 30 percent. I thought the question though was the type of democracy Aristotle observed and analyzed.
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Aristotle endorsed democracy. And unlike many stupid people today, he knew "democracy" did not mean "pure, direct democracy."
 
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