Chinese man hacks off his own infected leg with a saw and a back-scratcher

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Those, like Callahan, who support proposals to ration life-extending medical resources on the basis of age maintain that such a rationing system would bring about the greatest good for the greatest number of people.


While the health of the young can be ensured by relatively cheap preventive measures such as exercise programs and health education, the medical conditions of the elderly are often complicated, requiring the use of expensive technologies and treatments -- and often, these treatments are ineffective in providing any tangible benefit for either patient or society.


In short, the costs that arc incurred to prolong the life of one elderly person might be more productively directed toward the treatment of a far greater number of younger persons whose health can be ensured by less costly measures.


Furthermore, the advocates of rationing argue, society benefits from the increase in economic productivity that results when medical resources are diverted from an elderly, retired population to those younger members of society who are more likely to be working.




http://www.scu.edu/ethics/publications/iie/v3n3/age.html
 
and their true intentions begin to emerge.

toss the old people in a land fill.

hell they will die soon without medical care anyway.


the sociopathic part of the republican party will have to die too if the party wants to survive
 
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Advocates of health care rationing also argue that issues of justice are at stake in this social debate.

It's estimated that the government now spends more than $9000 per elderly person and less than $900 per child each year.

The skewed distribution of health care resources, they say, is not only detrimental to the overall health of the society; it is also unjust, because the elderly receive a disproportionately large piece of the health care pie, while a far greater number of younger people are deprived of an equal share of the nation's health care resources.

Moreover, "need" should not be a fundamental criterion for determining how much health care the elderly (or others) are allotted. In the context of constant technological innovations to prolong life at all costs, the "needs" of the elderly know no bounds and drain the pool of resources that ought to be made available to all age groups.



http://www.scu.edu/ethics/publications/iie/v3n3/age.html
 
your sociopathic memes are just trying to kill each other now huh


good thing you have no capability to feel emotion huh.
 
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Many advocates of rationing also support Daniel Callahan's contention that the drain on health care resources to extend the lives of the elderly has the effect of violating the rights of the young to live out a "normal" life span.


Elderly persons, they say, ought to bc entitled to treatment to relieve pain and suffering, but by the age of 70 or 80, they have lived out a natural life span and achieved most of life's goals and possibilities, and therefore they ought not to receive treatments to extend their lives at the expense of those who have not lived out a normal life span.


Finally, those in favor of age-based rationing claim that withholding treatment from the elderly would not be unjust, as critics claim, because, as they point out, everyone grows older.


If we treat the young one way and the old another way, over time, each person is treated the same.


Thus, a health care policy that treats the young and old differently will, over time, treat people equally.






http://www.scu.edu/ethics/publications/iie/v3n3/age.html
 
evince said:
what the hell you guys?


this is about capitalism.

what the fuck do you think is was posted for ?
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You need a scorecard to keep up with the players. Communist countries were known for being broke-ass poor. Now a communist country has hundreds of billions of dollars available to lend us, the richest capitalist society ever, who at the same time is broke ass poor.

This particular communist country had the most stringent government oversight imaginable. probably in the history of the entire world... and still could not make a single payer health care system work.

I have a friend who is an eye surgeon in China. She got called out to the rural countryside to perform cataract surgery ... on a party bigwig's wife's cat. No, she's not a vet.

The ultimate irony is, the Chinese recognize everything they did wrong and we did right. In response, we're doing everything they did wrong and tossing aside everything we did right.

"Communist" China is now a more capitalist society than the USA.
 
evince said:
and hes also a sociopath
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Death panels!

"Perhaps the most prominent advocate of aged-based rationing is Daniel Callahan, author of Setting Limits. In this book, Callahan proposed that the government refuse to pay for life-extending medical care for individuals beyond the age of 70 or 80, and only pay for routine care aimed at relieving their pain."
 
christiefan915 said:
No drunk posting? :(
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Oh christifan do I have a story for you! Happened right after I posted this and caused me to sober up. I'll type it up when I get to computer. Butthole friend just woke me up. Less than three hours sleep after drinking for twelve hours straight = not good
 
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The arguments presented by the advocates of health care rationing provoke strong disagreement.


The claim that rationing would bring about the greatest balance of benefits for society is disputed by those who argue that any rationing policy depriving the aged of live-saving medical care would result in enormous costs and few benefits.


For the young, such a policy would lead to heightened levels of anxiety and fear as they approached old age, while the elderly, not wishing to die and feeling abandoned by society, would despair.


Furthermore, if financial savings were achieved by rationing care by age, there's no guarantee, given our present political system, that any savings on the old would actually be directed to the young, or that they would result in real improvements in the overall health of our citizenry.




http://www.scu.edu/ethics/publications/iie/v3n3/age.html
 
cawacko said:
Oh christifan do I have a story for you! Happened right after I posted this and caused me to sober up. I'll type it up when I get to computer. Butthole friend just woke me up. Less than three hours sleep after drinking for twelve hours straight = not good
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Oh boy I can't wait! Your stories are the best, cawacko!
 
christiefan915 said:
I was feeling so bad for this guy, then scrolled down to see him smoking. Now I want to send a donation and slap him into the next province at the same time.
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Maybe it was medical weed, I'm sure you're down with that.....but do send that donation.
 
cawacko said:
I want to hold the hammer by the correct end. It's hurts to do it the wrong way. Any advice on how to do it correctly?
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Take your hand off your dick, place it on the handle, the end without the claw, grip firmly, you know how, you were just doing it with your penis...
 
Taft2016 said:
Look at the bright side. The tens of millions of babies you've aborted will have some adults to look after them there.
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Wow, that is almost superhuman, Desh being responsible for tens of millions of abortion? Having them or performing them?
 
NOVA said:
Maybe it was medical weed, I'm sure you're down with that.....but do send that donation.
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Do you take the opiates your doctors prescribe when you have had surgery or dental work? I bet this guy would have gladly smoked weed before doing this to himself, but he probably could not afford it.
 
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