China Is About to Fall Into the Middle-Income Trap

Stone said:
Wont work. But not for lack of Chinese trying. It wont work for a much more nefarious reason. When the time is right, with different leadership,.....The U.S is going to bring war to them on a level they arent ready for. They will die.
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Our military is in collapse, and the world is turning against us.

No.
 
cawacko said:
I've said all along we are playing with house money this season and I expect us to lose several games. We don't have the horses to make a run for the national title. So yeah I was bummed we lost but we were underdogs for a reason.
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Lot of investment for still not having the horses, not like Riley was playing with what was left him, nor, unless the Oregon Georgia game was atypical, the league is that good. Well you still got the UCLA game coming up, as I said before, the traditional rivalries is what makes college football what it is, or, least used to be at one time

And, returning to China, I think it was inevitable, China couldn't maintain as it was going as a mixed economy accented by authoritarianism, eventually a decision had to be made. I believe Obama saw that a decade ago and came up with TPP to accelerate events
 
2015 is when China began preparing for a showdown with the West....what the party is doing now is not at all new....it is a ramp up.
 
archives said:
Lot of investment for still not having the horses, not like Riley was playing with what was left him, nor, unless the Oregon Georgia game was atypical, the league is that good. Well you still got the UCLA game coming up, as I said before, the traditional rivalries is what makes college football what it is, or, least used to be at one time

And, returning to China, I think it was inevitable, China couldn't maintain as it was going as a mixed economy accented by authoritarianism, eventually a decision had to be made. I believe Obama saw that a decade ago and came up with TPP to accelerate events
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We could have hired Saban and Carroll to be our coaches this year and we weren't going to win the national title. Patience young grasshopper.

I spoken to a couple of big real estate pension fund/hedge guys (who have billions in AUM) and they talked about how different it was doing business with China during the aughts compared to the past decade. I went to China to speak to investors in I think 2012 and it was just after that I believe when things really started to change.

I don't pretend to be some China expert or have a crystal ball but there are enough articles like this being written showing that the onion is slowly being peeled back on the Chinese economy and it is far from guaranteed they can come close to maintaining the level of growth they experienced previously. Easy money and massive debt can work for awhile but isn't sustainable long term.
 
cawacko said:
We could have hired Saban and Carroll to be our coaches this year and we weren't going to win the national title. Patience young grasshopper.

I spoken to a couple of big real estate pension fund/hedge guys (who have billions in AUM) and they talked about how different it was doing business with China during the aughts compared to the past decade. I went to China to speak to investors in I think 2012 and it was just after that I believe when things really started to change.

I don't pretend to be some China expert or have a crystal ball but there are enough articles like this being written showing that the onion is slowly being peeled back on the Chinese economy and it is far from guaranteed they can come close to maintaining the level of growth they experienced previously. Easy money and massive debt can work for awhile but isn't sustainable long term.
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Almost everything that has been said about China over my lifetime by American "experts" has been wrong.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
They are currently preparing for total war with the West, which they will almost certainly win.
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Dude, the US is China's largest market! Trust me- THEY ENJOY THAT!

They are not wanting a war with the US- They want war with Taiwan- and they fear the US will stop buying from them if they do- so it has never happened.

That's called purchase power!

And I am sure you are enjoying your laptop, phone, WIDESCREEN, and cheap auto parts!
 
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Geeko Sportivo said:
Dude, the US is China's largest market! Trust me- THEY ENJOY THAT!

They are not wanting a war with the US- They want war with Taiwan- and they fear the US will stop buying from them if they do- so it has never happened.

That's called purchase power!

And I am sure you are enjoying your laptop, phone, WIDESCREEN, and cheap auto parts!
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Destroying Americas ability to produce for ourselves was a means to an end......it is not economic numbers that matter to them...it is the Glory of the Empire. You sound like these idiots in the West who think that they can price cap Russian crude/gas/oil products......It is complete fantasy.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Destroying Americas ability to produce for ourselves was a means to an end......it is not economic numbers that matter to them...it is the Glory of the Empire. You sound like these idiots in the West who think that they can price cap Russian crude/gas/oil products......It is complete fantasy.
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Price cap? No one is trying to price cap Russian Crude except Russia.

What we are trying to do instead is Sanction your Hero Pooty Boy for the murders of multitudes of thousands of innocent men, women, and children and the terrorization of one of our allies- the Ukraine!
 
Command Economies have their problems, but China uses State Owned Entities for their real advantages
They blow money on infrasctructure and growth is slowing, but they aren't going into a recession ( predictions the USA will because of inflation/interest rates) unless it's a global recession.

And they are prepared with actual budget surplusses -unlike the USA who has thrown trillions into an already overheated economy
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Price cap? No one is trying to price cap Russian Crude except Russia.

What we are trying to do instead is Sanction your Hero Pooty Boy for the murders of multitudes of thousands of innocent men, women, and children and the terrorization of one of our allies- the Ukraine!
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A) Idiot

B) Liar
 
China will eventually figure it out.
As old as their civilization is, it was isolated for too long to find balance in the global community easily,
but they've got a lot of smart people and they'll get there eventually.

I'm more worried about us.
We have some of the most stupid fucks on the planet corrupting our population,

People like Donald Trump, Josh Hawley, Ironside Abbott, and Rhonda Santis get elected to public office in this country.

China is the least of our problems, believe me.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
China will eventually figure it out.
As old as their civilization is, it was isolated for too long to find balance in the global community easily,
but they've got a lot of smart people and they'll get there eventually.

I'm more worried about us.
We have some of the most stupid fucks on the planet corrupting our population,

People like Donald Trump, Josh Hawley, Ironside Abbott, and Rhonda Santis get elected to public office in this country.

China is the least of our problems, believe me.
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A) Idiot

B) Liar
 
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