China fears Biden's Indo-Pacific NATO

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China is alarmed by the Quad. But its threats are driving the group closer together

The Quadrilateral Security Dialogue, colloquially the Quad, is a strategic security dialogue between Australia, India, Japan, and the United States.

When the United States, Japan, Australia and India first resuscitated their informal dialogue from a decade-long hiatus in late 2017, China was confident it would soon fail.

More than four years on, the Quadrilateral Security Dialogue -- better known as "the Quad" -- is far from dissipating. Instead, it has only grown in momentum, profile and clout.

Convened around the mantra of promoting a "free and open Indo-Pacific," the four countries have held two naval exercises since 2020. Their leaders have assembled three times since last year -- including an in-person summit at the White House.

On Tuesday, the four leaders will meet face to face again in Tokyo. Their summit will be a highlight of Joe Biden's first trip to Asia as the US President, as he seeks to strengthen alliances and partnerships to counter China's growing influence in the region.

The renewed activity has seen China's initial scorn turn into alarm, with Beijing viewing the grouping as part of Washington's attempt to encircle the country with strategic and military allies. Wang, the foreign minister, has decried the grouping as an "Indo-Pacific NATO," accusing it of "trumpeting the Cold War mentality" and "stoking geopolitical rivalry."

That concern has only grown since the Ukraine crisis. Beijing's backing of Moscow has further damaged its global image, leaving it more isolated on the world stage. And that is not helped by China's insistence on a zero-Covid policy, in which stringent border restrictions are cutting the country off from a world that has largely moved on from the pandemic.

While Biden travels the world to reinforce ties, his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping hasn't left China in 25 months. Biden's latest flurry of diplomacy, with stops in South Korea and Japan, has particularly irked Beijing.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...china-threat-analysis-intl-hnk-mic/index.html
 
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What the dim witted Trump never understood is that authoritarianism is on the ascent, and the world's democracies need to be united to challenge this threat.
 
What the dim witted Trump never understood is that authoritarianism is on the ascent, and the world's democracies need to be united to challenge this threat.

being a democracy is no inherent power. The one good things about "authoritarianism"
( one man/party rule) is a cohesive policy over time
Like Biden comes in and NEEDLESSLY overturns everything Trump did and leaves us energy dependent
no viable trade deal with China, and decommissioning ships ( the border as well)

The Quad is security pact, and trying to make it into an economic block isn't going to work
China will pick them off 1 by one

Still getting India into a western security alliance is a big deal
 
being a democracy is no inherent power. The one good things about "authoritarianism"
( one man/party rule) is a cohesive policy over time
Like Biden comes in and NEEDLESSLY overturns everything Trump did and leaves us energy dependent
no viable trade deal with China, and decommissioning ships ( the border as well)

The Quad is security pact, and trying to make it into an economic block isn't going to work
China will pick them off 1 by one

Still getting India into a western security alliance is a big deal

So your preference is for authoritarianism.

It's no wonder you wanted America to beg the notorious war criminal Vlad Putin to be our friend.

I am throwing my lot in with the world's democracies: Australia, Japan, India, France, United Kingdom, Germany, etc.
 
So your preference is for authoritarianism.

It's no wonder you wanted America to beg the notorious war criminal Vlad Putin to be our friend.

I am throwing my lot in with the world's democracies: Australia, Japan, India, France, United Kingdom, Germany, etc.

my preference is American democracy as a functioning government -we dont do that much anymore
Biden is guilty as all hell on this - but the trend is to overturn previous policy

That said I dont want authoritarianism,but it does have that going for it

as to the "Indo-Pacific Trade thingy" -its going nowhere
 
You have forgotten what it means to be an American.
im not calling for "authoritarianism" (and it cant exist in the USA)
I am pointing out the benefits of a continued policy that survives past each administration
 
im not calling for "authoritarianism" (and it cant exist in the USA)
I am pointing out the benefits of a continued policy that survives past each administration

You didn't seem upset in the least that Trump bailed out of the intentional nuclear treaty with Iran, and the Paris climate accord, both of which took years of painstaking international negotiations.

What you really want is for your policy preferences to be kept forever, which is dictatorship.
 
my preference is American democracy as a functioning government -we dont do that much anymore
Biden is guilty as all hell on this - but the trend is to overturn previous policy

That said I dont want authoritarianism,but it does have that going for it

as to the "Indo-Pacific Trade thingy" -its going nowhere

We are fortunate to have a president who is personally invested in cultivating a security relationship with India, Australia, Japan as a counterweight to Communist China.

One of Trump's first acts in office was to call the prime minister of Australia to insult and harangue him.
 
What the dim witted Trump never understood is that authoritarianism is on the ascent, and the world's democracies need to be united to challenge this threat.

Apparently you do not realize who was president four years ago or understand that this restoration of the QSD began under that president you say "never understood".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadrilateral_Security_Dialogue

During the 2017 ASEAN Summits in Manila, all four former members led by Abe, Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, and US President Donald Trump agreed to revive the quadrilateral alliance in order to counter China militarily and diplomatically in the "Indo-Pacific" region, particularly in the South China Sea. Tensions between Quad members and China have led to fears of what was dubbed by some commentators "a new Cold War" in the region.[3][4][5][6][7]

The left just says nonsense about Trump and believe it because they want to, not because it is fact.
 
We are fortunate to have a president who is personally invested in cultivating a security relationship with India, Australia, Japan as a counterweight to Communist China.

One of Trump's first acts in office was to call the prime minister of Australia to insult and harangue him.
Trump revived the Quad. and it IS a security relationship .
One just cant flip a switch and make it a trade block
Biden could have if he had had Katherine Tai (US trade rep) do the legwork, but he fell asleep and forgot to

It takes meetings on trade to form any type of trading block -you just cant fly in and create it
 
Apparently you do not realize who was president four years ago or understand that this restoration of the QSD began under that president you say "never understood".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadrilateral_Security_Dialogue



The left just says nonsense about Trump and believe it because they want to, not because it is fact.
always and forever rushing in and leaping out of your chair to defend your hero Donald Trumpf, eh?

Incorrect on all counts.
I am aware of the timeline of the Quad.

I am the one who posted the info in the OP.

The Quad was kept at low level contacts during the Dunp Regime. Dump never invested himself personally or organized a face to face summit with Quad leaders.

Low level contacts are a recipe for failure.

Biden is personally invested and facilitating the first high level contacts and summits of the Quad.

Quad Joint Leaders Statement Issued by Biden White House

Just over one year ago, Leaders met for the first time. Today in Tokyo, we convene for our fourth meeting, and our second in person, to demonstrate, at a time of profound global challenge, that the Quad is a force for good, committed to bringing tangible benefits to the region.
.https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...ases/2022/05/24/quad-joint-leaders-statement/
 
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always and forever rushing in and leaping out of your chair to defend your hero Donald Trumpf, eh?

Incorrect on all counts.
I am aware of the timeline of the Quad.

I am the one who posted the info in the OP.

The Quad was kept at low level contacts during the Dunp Regime. Dump never invested himself personally or organized a face to face summit with Quad leaders.

Low level contacts is a recipe for failure.

Biden is personally invested and facilitating the first high level contacts and summits of the Quad.
JFC. Trump went to India and courted Modi, as well as increasibng Freedom of Navigation Operations (FONOPS) in the South China Sea
 
JFC. Trump went to India and courted Modi, as well as increasibng Freedom of Navigation Operations (FONOPS) in the South China Sea

First ever Quad summit was organized by Biden, and the high level contacts have only been increasing since then.

China originally looked at the Quad as doomed to fail; it was only being cultivated by lower level contacts (thanks Trump)

Now China is becoming alarmed at the Quad, and even calling it an Indo-Pacific NATO.


Why did Trump ass kissers say Biden was a radical Maoist who was going to be totally wimpy on China? Another example of MAGA lying their flabby asses off?
 
First ever Quad summit was organized by Biden, and the high level contacts have only been increasing since then.

China originally looked at the Quad as doomed to fail, it was only being cultivated by lower level contacts (thanks Trump)

Now China is becoming alarmed at the Quad, and even calling it an Indo-Pacific NATO.


Why did Trump ass kissers say Biden was a radical Maoist who was going to be totally wimpy on China? Another example of MAGA lying their flabby asses off?
I saw a video of Biden greeting the three leaders. There were lots of laughing and genuine smiles. Biden is such a personable President. You can tell the men like and respect him.
 
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