Chicago mayor Lightfoot new policy. Will only speak to NON-WHITE reporters!!!

Turgid Member said:
I dont think it has anything to do with white reporters. I think it has more to do with the attitude that if your white, you need not apply. Isn't that the very definition of racism?
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There isn't a short way to answer that question. In short, white Americans have never, don't currently, and probably will never experience racism in the same way that non-white Americans do. There simply is no comparison between white reporters in Chicago being given last priority for personal interviews with the mayor of that city and the racism that the rest of us face every day.
 
Diesel said:
There isn't a short way to answer that question. In short, white Americans have never, don't currently, and probably will never experience racism in the same way that non-white Americans do. There simply is no comparison between white reporters in Chicago being given last priority for personal interviews with the mayor of that city and the racism that the rest of us face every day.
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Eastern philosophies teach living in the moment. you shouldnt punish a current group for the sins of the past, as they have no concept of others actions.

does that make sense? I may come off as flippant, that is not my intent. the white reporters blacklisted, I dont think would support racism, so why are they to be punished? There was a latino reporter who cancelled his interview with her over this, I tend, initially to agree with him.
 
Turgid Member said:
Eastern philosophies teach living in the moment. you shouldnt punish a current group for the sins of the past, as they have no concept of others actions.

does that make sense? I may come off as flippant, that is not my intent. the white reporters blacklisted, I dont think would support racism, so why are they to be punished? There was a latino reporter who cancelled his interview with her over this, I tend, initially to agree with him.
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Yes, that makes a lot of sense to me. Racism in the US is peculiar. It's unique even though it has similarities with racism in every other part of the world. American racism, however, is especially impervious to foreign influences, especially Eastern ones.

White reporters in Chicago should not be denied interviews because they're white. That is indeed racist. I agree with you. My sentences above prefaced what I think Lightfoot and many racial minorities in the US are doing. They're counteracting the racism that we experience daily by 1.) giving extra opportunity to minorities (a la affirmative action) and 2.) trying to get a couple of white Americans to finally understand why we're so sick and tired of being mistreated.

I personally would not hurt a person to teach that person that hurting people is bad, but I also understand why Lightfoot is completely fed up. The few white people who feel marginalized by her actions this week still don't have any clue of the depth of our pain.
 
Diesel said:
Yes, that makes a lot of sense to me. Racism in the US is peculiar. It's unique even though it has similarities with racism in every other part of the world. American racism, however, is especially impervious to foreign influences, especially Eastern ones.

White reporters in Chicago should not be denied interviews because they're white. That is indeed racist. I agree with you. My sentences above prefaced what I think Lightfoot and many racial minorities in the US are doing. They're counteracting the racism that we experience daily by 1.) giving extra opportunity to minorities (a la affirmative action) and 2.) trying to get a couple of white Americans to finally understand why we're so sick and tired of being mistreated.

I personally would not hurt a person to teach that person that hurting people is bad, but I also understand why Lightfoot is completely fed up. The few white people who feel marginalized by her actions this week still don't have any clue of the depth of our pain.
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Here is my thing. Most Asian countries are ethno-states that the white majority does not recognize. I can see the beauty of eastern philosophy, but could I integrate into that society, no not really. I have to look at the world of racism through a white defined lense, My position is however, that I cannot accept being dictated to what I believe or what is racism by others who have had different experiences than me.


have I experienced racism? sure? have I experienced racism to the point it's held me back? not that I can articulate. but maybe i dont know because I come from a heavy hispanic place. your personal instincts is what we need. Are you latino? if so you know we straddle a line. we are white when convenient, and not white when it's not.
 
Turgid Member said:
Here is my thing. Most Asian countries are ethno-states that the white majority does not recognize. I can see the beauty of eastern philosophy, but could I integrate into that society, no not really. I have to look at the world of racism through a white defined lense, My position is however, that I cannot accept being dictated to what I believe or what is racism by others who have had different experiences than me.


have I experienced racism? sure? have I experienced racism to the point it's held me back? not that I can articulate. but maybe i dont know because I come from a heavy hispanic place. your personal instincts is what we need. Are you latino? if so you know we straddle a line. we are white when convenient, and not white when it's not.
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I'm Korean, so our experiences and potentials here diverge. You, I, and every other person are equally entitled to form opinions about racism.

Americans, however, are particularly insulated. The US is the greatest and most diverse melting pot on the planet, but Americans are notoriously untraveled, inexperienced, and uninterested in things that happen abroad. Most white Americans just don't get racism. They never will. They don't want to. They feel threatened by the suggestion that they themselves might be racist, which derails the conversation at the moment it starts.

People who are generally good don't want to be racist. That's a good thing. But a white American who has never lived for an extended period of time as a minority or has not extensively studied race relations simply is not going to understand racism in a way that is deeply meaningful to me.

I appreciate allies and good intentions, but all we have to do is compare racism in 1960s US to racism in 2020s US to see very clearly, in objective ways, that we have made far less progress than we thought we did -- and most of it was superficial.

I have lived in Mexico and spend a lot of my time these days in Colorado and NYC. Latino experiences, especially in the US, are something I feel comfortable relating to and think I kind of understand. I'm glad you joined JPP. I hope we'll become friends or at least regularly interact with each other.
 
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Phantasmal said:
Legion Troll projects a lot, he’s had numerous sock accounts.
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Just in the past couple of hours, he determined that I pretended to be a Korean female two years ago.

I don't even know where to go with that. The dude is fucking nuts, but you didn't need me to tell you that.
 
Weasel said:
I'm Korean
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Diesel said:
I'm Korean, so our experiences and potentials here diverge. You, I, and every other person are equally entitled to form opinions about racism.

Americans, however, are particularly insulated. The US is the greatest and most diverse melting pot on the planet, but Americans are notoriously untraveled, inexperienced, and uninterested in things that happen abroad. Most white Americans just don't get racism. They never will. They don't want to. They feel threatened by the suggestion that they themselves might be racist, which derails the conversation at the moment it starts.

People who are generally good don't want to be racist. That's a good thing. But a white American who has never lived for an extended period of time as a minority or has not extensively studied race relations simply is not going to understand racism in a way that is deeply meaningful to me.

I appreciate allies and good intentions, but all we have to do is compare racism in 1960s US to racism in 2020s US to see very clearly, in objective ways, that we have made far less progress than we thought we did -- and most of it was superficial.

I have lived in Mexico and spend a lot of my time these days in Colorado. The Latino experience, especially in the US, is something I feel very comfortable relating to and think I kind of understand. I'm glad you've joined JPP. I hope we'll become friends or at least regularly interact with each other.
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Thank you my friend for the kind words, I have traveled extensively myself, not to get into it. but let me ask you, do you find Koren (s korean) culture more or less racist than white american culture? honest question. I've experienced it in seoul from the other end being latino and have to aske you, are not mot Asian countries, if they where 'white' countries wouldn't they be considered racist ethno states to the likes of south africa, isreal, etc? I am not intending to offend, but to me and my experience, the worst thing for a korean girl to bring home was a black GI, I was less offensive, but still I was not white, which I got the impression of was more preferable to my hispanic complexion and roots.
 
Legion said:
No, I determined that a long time ago.
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Oh, ok. You're fucking weird, dude. Don't project onto me. I don't have time to regularly participate with this account, let alone wait two years to create a sock account for . . . a purpose that doesn't exist.
 
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