Chevy volt sales dissappointing

Like I stated, they MAY work in major cities where people don't drive much.... but tell us... how does that battery last in rush hour traffic?

40 miles is NOTHING. Also, it doesn't suddenly become a hybrid, it is always a hybrid.

Electric does not make the most sense and it will not translate into much of a dent in our transportation needs. I support exploring all options, but as the tech stands today, it is likely to remain a minimal force.

It lasts even better in rush hour traffic, and the difference in efficiency between and electric versus an internal combustion engine (ICE) increases exponetialy as the speed decreases. Driving an electric car slower just increases the range, and during the stop part of stop and go traffic, the electric motor uses zero energy.

40 miles is the average use of a car in America. If one is able to charge their vehicle at work, an 80 mile round trip is practical.

It is not a hybrid, it is a plug in electric/hybrid. There is a difference.

Electric is not the only solution, nothing is.
Electric will certainly play a larger role than you think though.
 
A battery range of 40 miles is exactly why electric makes little sense.

This likely why the Leaf is outselling the Volt.
Problem for the Leaf drivers is the occasional trip over a hundred miles.
The Volt doesn't have that problem though.
Eventualy people will catch on.
 
When they make an electric that can head out and run 500 miles on short notice, haul a trailer, carry 4 or 5 workers, or carry a load of equipment, I will consider one for my job. Otherwise, its a nice idea for someone else.
 
This likely why the Leaf is outselling the Volt.
Problem for the Leaf drivers is the occasional trip over a hundred miles.
The Volt doesn't have that problem though.
Eventualy people will catch on.

They probably produce more Leafs than Volts as well. It's hard to sell something if you don't give the customers the option, even if they want it.
 
Sure electric cars have been around since the beginning

They have.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car

Main article: History of the electric vehicle
Electric cars enjoyed popularity between the mid-19th century and early 20th century, when electricity was among the preferred methods for automobile propulsion, providing a level of comfort and ease of operation that could not be achieved by the gasoline cars of the time. Advances in internal combustion technology, especially the electric starter, soon rendered this advantage moot; the greater range of gasoline cars, quicker refueling times, and growing petroleum infrastructure, along with the mass production of gasoline vehicles by companies such as the Ford Motor Company, which reduced prices of gasoline cars to less than half that of equivalent electric cars, led to a decline in the use of electric propulsion, effectively removing it from important markets such as the United States by the 1930s. However, in recent years, increased concerns over the environmental impact of gasoline cars, higher gasoline prices, improvements in battery technology, and the prospect of peak oil, have brought about renewed interest in electric cars, which are perceived to be more environmentally friendly and cheaper to maintain and run, despite high initial costs. Electric cars currently enjoy relative popularity in countries around the world, though they were absent from the roads of the United States, after they briefly re-appeared in the late 90s.

Detroit Electric car charging


[h=3][edit] 1890s to 1900s: Early history[/h]Before the pre-eminence of internal combustion engines, electric automobiles held many speed and distance records. Among the most notable of these records was the breaking of the 100 km/h (62 mph) speed barrier, by Camille Jenatzy on April 29, 1899 in his 'rocket-shaped' vehicle Jamais Contente, which reached a top speed of 105.88 km/h (65.79 mph). Before the 1920s, electric automobiles were competing with petroleum-fueled cars for urban use of a quality service car.[SUP][20][/SUP]

Thomas Edison and an electric car in 1913 (courtesy of the National Museum of American History)



Tribelhorn 1908


Proposed as early as 1896 in order to overcome the lack of recharging infrastructure, an exchangeable battery service was first put into practice by Hartford Electric Light Company for electric trucks. The vehicle owner purchased the vehicle from General Electric Company (GVC) without a battery and the electricity was purchased from Hartford Electric through an exchangeable battery. The owner paid a variable per-mile charge and a monthly service fee to cover maintenance and storage of the truck. The service was provided between 1910 to 1924 and during that period covered more than 6 million miles. Beginning in 1917 a similar service was operated in Chicago for owners of Milburn Light Electric cars who also could buy the vehicle without the batteries.[SUP][21][/SUP]
In 1897, electric vehicles found their first commercial application in the U.S. as a fleet of electrical New York City taxis, built by the Electric Carriage and Wagon Company of Philadelphia. Electric cars were produced in the US by Anthony Electric, Baker, Columbia, Anderson, Edison [SUP][disambiguation needed ][/SUP], Fritchle, Studebaker, Riker, Milburn, and others during the early 20th century.
Despite their relatively slow speed, electric vehicles had a number of advantages over their early-1900s competitors. They did not have the vibration, smell, and noise associated with gasoline cars. They did not require gear changes, which for gasoline cars was the most difficult part of driving. Electric cars found popularity among well-heeled customers who used them as city cars, where their limited range was less of a disadvantage. The cars were also preferred because they did not require a manual effort to start, as did gasoline cars which featured a hand crank to start the engine. Electric cars were often marketed as suitable vehicles for women drivers due to this ease of operation.

The Henney Kilowatt, a 1961 production electric car based on the Renault Dauphine


In 1911, the New York Times stated that the electric car has long been recognized as "ideal" because it was cleaner, quieter and much more economical than gasoline-powered cars.[SUP][22][/SUP] Reporting this in 2010, the Washington Post commented that "the same unreliability of electric car batteries that flummoxed Thomas Edison persists today."[SUP][23][/SUP]
 
You are somehow under the illusion that a Toyota is more durable than a Chevrolet?

LOL somehow?

I drove a toyota pickup for 8 years and logged over 300K miles without any major malfunctions. Try that with a chevy. Any chevy. 300K on the original clutch! Never happen with an american car. they're engineered to fail
 
LOL somehow?

I drove a toyota pickup for 8 years and logged over 300K miles without any major malfunctions. Try that with a chevy. Any chevy. 300K on the original clutch! Never happen with an american car. they're engineered to fail

That's a crock.
The reputation of Toyotas is hype, marketing and gulibility.

I put 350,000 miles on the first Chevy I ever bought.
 
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You are somehow under the illusion that a Toyota is more durable than a Chevrolet?

I think one of us got mixed up on what we're discussing. Probably me. I am simply stating that due to geography and lifestyle an electric car isn't something I could consider right now ... a car isn't something I could use, electric or not. Let me say that if I were to drive a car it would be a Chevy, Ford or Dodge. No foreign vehicles for me....well, except for my bike. After all I'm a "flag waver."
 
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