Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

FastLane said:
I have heard multiple Democrats including several here call Trump Hitler.
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Are you comparing what people here say to what Trump says?

And quote the several Democrats saying things as bad as Trump and lets compare there standing in the party and the pulpit they have compared to Trumps.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
He's correct in one sense. Political violence is ratcheting up because the Left is increasingly frustrated they can't get their way.
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What's ratcheting up is the political BULLSHIT PROPAGANDA out of the RIGHT because that's what you fucks do every time the opportunity presents itself.
 
FastLane said:
So the left could not defeat Kirk with ideas so they try to silence him with lead.
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Kirk was killed by his hateful remarks and another Magat taking issue and killing him.

This is a direct result of the hate that infuses magats coming back to bite them.
 
Former U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, who suffered a serious brain injury in a 2011 shooting in Arizona, said she was “horrified” to hear of Kirk’s shooting. “Democratic societies will always have political disagreements, but we must never allow America to become a country that confronts those disagreements with violence,” she said on social media.


Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro, a Democrat and potential national candidate, said, “We must speak with moral clarity. The attack on Charlie Kirk is horrifying and this growing type of unconscionable violence cannot be allowed in our society.” A fire was set at his house.

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, who was the subject of a kidnapping plot, said on social media that “we should all come together to stand up against any and all forms of political violence.” Two men were imprisoned for their 2020 plot to kidnap the governor during her first term.


A former U.S. representative for Utah’s 3rd congressional district, Jason Chaffetz, says when the shot rang out, Kirk had just been asked a question by someone in the crowd about transgender people and shootings.
“As soon as I saw Charlie go back, you realize that it was a shot,” Chaffetz says. “It wasn’t as if there was a whole bunch of gunfire. It was one shot.”

— Vice President JD Vance: “Dear God, protect Charlie in his darkest hour.”

— Former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg: “Political violence must be always and totally rejected,” Buttigieg wrote on X. “Praying for him and all who may have been injured or impacted.”

Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker: “The attack on Charlie Kirk is horrifying. Political violence has no place in this country and should never become the norm. I’m sending my sympathies to his family and friends at this time.”

Former North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper: “Violence is unacceptable. I strongly condemn the attack on Charlie Kirk and political violence in all forms. I’m praying for his swift recovery.”

New York City mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani: "I’m horrified by the shooting of Charlie Kirk at a college event in Utah. Political violence has no place in our country.”

North Carolina Gov. Josh Stein: “We can never tolerate or become numb to political violence. Our nation is weaker when people are afraid to share their opinions or disagree. Please join Anna and me in praying for Charlie Kirk’s recovery.”


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The Latest: Conservative activist Charlie Kirk is killed in Utah, 'person of interest' in custody

Charlie Kirk, the CEO and co-founder of the conservative youth organization Turning Point USA, was fatally shot Wednesday while speaking at an event at a Utah college, officials said.
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FastLane said:
So the left could not defeat Kirk with ideas so they try to silence him with lead.
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But in the process, they made Kirk into someone who can never be defeated with ideas or words, he is now an immortal martyr. Even if he survives, 100s of thousands of people will now cut the Lefties out of their lives and options.

If the Lefties do this crap another 10-20 times, they will never win even blue-state local elections.

This is completely self-defeating for the Left. I was convinced long ago, to never support the Left. But for many others, this event will be the turning point.

My prayers for the survival and complete recovery of Charlie Kirk.


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T. A. Gardner said:
He's correct in one sense. Political violence is ratcheting up because the Left is increasingly frustrated they can't get their way.
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Magats are learning the cost of their non stop hate as it rebounds back against them.

This is 3 times now, counting the two Trump attempting shootings were a magat took the anger fed to him by other magats and directed at another Magat.
 
archives said:
“Democrats” in general, and “several here,” are incomparable to the influence and reach of the President of the United States, poor “example”
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They just announced that Kirk is dead.

Trump is a counter puncher. You label him and he will label you back. This assassination will backfire on Democrats. Just look at all the students that will look at this as an attempt to silence the truths that Kirk spoke.
 
FastLane said:
They just announced that Kirk is dead.

Trump is a counter puncher. You label him and he will label you back. This assassination will backfire on Democrats. Just look at all the students that will look at this as an attempt to silence the truths that Kirk spoke.
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This will only continue the spiral of magats killing magats.

You cannot feed a base non stop hate all the time without expecting this type of rebound.
 
FastLane said:
They just announced that Kirk is dead.

Trump is a counter puncher. You label him and he will label you back. This assassination will backfire on Democrats. Just look at all the students that will look at this as an attempt to silence the truths that Kirk spoke.
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All you're doing is rationalizing rhetoric that is the exact kind of rhetoric that you are criticizing.

It's pure partisan double standard. It's why this kind of rhetoric is basically self-perpetuating. Both sides feed the stereotypes, and try to claim it is only the other side.
 
Kurmugeon said:
But in the process, they made Kirk into someone who can never be defeated with ideas or words, he is now an immortal martyr. Even if he survives, 100s of thousands of people will now cut the Lefties out of their lives and options.

If the Lefties do this crap another 10-20 times, they will never win even blue-state local elections.

This is completely self-defeating for the Left. I was convinced long ago, to never support the Left. But for many others, this event will be the turning point.

My prayers for the survival and complete recovery of Charlie Kirk.


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He did not survive. :cry:
 
FastLane said:
They just announced that Kirk is dead.

Trump is a counter puncher. You label him and he will label you back. This assassination will backfire on Democrats. Just look at all the students that will look at this as an attempt to silence the truths that Kirk spoke.
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Again, Democrats had nothing to do with this. Direct your hate elsewhere.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Don't cherry pick my examples. I gave several including one that lists such behavior from Democrats going back decades.
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Not cherry picking, rather pointing out the obvious

You people are trying to defend Trump calling other Americans “traitors,” “enemies of the people,” “unAmerican,” ”evil,” etc., by stating some Democrats called Trump a fascist or Nazis, it is incomparable. Individuals doing such doesn’t come close to a President employing the President pulpit to randomly condemn other Americans

And Trump has done it repeatedly ever since he entered politics
 
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