Charles Blow: We Need A Second Great Migration

Jerome said:
It's both. White Europeans brutalized blacks in Africa, stole their politics and their culture, and have even used corporations to continue that colonization to this day (China is, also).

It's been similar for blacks in America. What, you think it's a wild coincidence that white colonizers and white slave-owners have some things in common regarding their preferred treatment of black Africans??
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Do you think colonized Europeans were treated well!?

Oh, really!?

Btw. African Americans as slaves grew faster in population than any population in Europe.
 
Jerome said:
I can see this is going nowhere with you. The last vestige of any mongrel racist when confronted with the continuing persecution and subjugation faced by blacks today is to chant "bUt...ObAmA prOvEs weRe nOt raCiSt!"

I can't believe you're actually trying to compare Irish people to the black experience in America. That is WEAPONS-GRADE retarded.
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Do you think Irish Americans were treated 100 years ago better than African Americans, today!?
Check, even during JFK he was assassinated & Obama wasn't.
 
cawacko said:
Protect the suburbs from development and keeping them so that only well to do folks can live in them and keep their property values high? Doesn’t that seem like banker rhetoric rather than populist?

And if you’re complaining about black folks moving into neighborhoods together being regressive isn’t protecting the suburbs to keep them largely white, as Trump was inferring, the same thing?
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address it as an economic class issue, which is what it is.

fuck the frankfurt school and your precious and idiotic identity politics.

the frankfurt school is where they tried to make class issues about something else, to divide the people from each other, so they are unable to focus on real problems, like bankers fucking over everybody.
 
Jerome said:
Yeah, that's what happens when you force-breed people.

Holy shit, you're stupid.
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Hmm, well I'm pretty sure that's impossible without being fed well.

It looks like a lot of European peasantry starved.
Something a lot worse than slavery IMO is rolling around in the dirt eating grass with severe hunger.
 
AssHatZombie said:
address it as an economic class issue, which is what it is.

fuck the frankfurt school and your precious and idiotic identity politics.

the frankfurt school is where they tried to make class issues about something else, to divide the people from each other, so they are unable to focus on real problems, like bankers fucking over everybody.
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So if it’s a class issue why you do support the President saying he will keep non well to do out of the suburbs? Sure seems like something a banker would say/support not a populist.
 
cawacko said:
So if it’s a class issue why you do support the President saying he will keep non well to do out of the suburbs? Again, sure seems like something a banker would say/support not a populist.
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if it was during riots and violence im all for it. all neigborhoods matter.

populists want their neighborhoods protected. amazon sponsored blm /antifa who often came from other towns.
 
AssHatZombie said:
if it was during riots and violence im all for it. all neigborhoods matter.

populists want their neighborhoods protected. amazon sponsored blm /antifa who often came from other towns.
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Nothing to do with that. It’s about not letting duplexes or multi family development in the suburbs. You know, so working class folks can’t live in nicer areas and have access to better schools. I find it amazing that populists say we should keep the neighborhoods where the bankers live exclusive to them only
 
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Wtf is this?
 
cawacko said:
Nothing to do with that. It’s about not letting duplexes or multi family development in the suburbs. You know, so working class folks can’t live in nicer areas and have access to better schools. I find it amazing that populists say we should keep the neighborhoods where the bankers live exclusive to them only
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im pretty sure it was related to that.

it's still a class issue though. mixing it up with race just clouds the waters, by design.
 
AssHatZombie said:
im pretty sure it was related to that.

it's still a class issue though. mixing it up with race just clouds the waters, by design.
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Populism is supposed to be about the voice of the regular person instead of the elite right? And yet here you have a supposed populist protecting the neighborhoods of the elite from building more affording housing that would allow the common working man to move in. And you support that?

Yeah, this is all b.s. it’s 100% about race.
 
Jerome said:
They were not rounded up as chattel slaves. Their government wasn't a puppet to European kings for centuries who stole gold, diamonds, oil, gas, and all other potential sources of prosperity for the indigenous Africans.

"tHe IrIsH wErE sLaveS, toO"

Have a drink, fuckwit:
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It's a harbor with a MASSIVELY prosperous trading route just off its coast.
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If Chatell slavery explains the New World Blacks conditions!?

Explain why Haiti is much poorer than Jamaica!?

Jamaicans were chatell slaves longer than Haiti & colonized longer too.
 
cawacko said:
Populism is supposed to be about the voice of the regular person instead of the elite right? And yet here you have a supposed populist protecting the neighborhoods of the elite from building more affording housing that would allow the common working man to move in. And you support that?

Yeah, this is all b.s. it’s 100% about race.
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everyone wants to protect their neighborhood. calling that "racist" is the identity politics part. I guarantee that nobody wants poor white trash fuckin up their neighborhood either.

it's mostly a class issue, sophist.
 
AssHatZombie said:
everyone wants to protect their neighborhood. calling that "racist" is the identity politics part. I guarantee that nobody wants poor white trash fuckin up their neighborhood either.

it's mostly a class issue, sophist.
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Poor white trash can’t buy or rent duplexes or new apartments in the suburbs. It’s funny, you have those who claim Republicans should be more focused on the working man and working class and here you are saying the working man isn’t worthy of living in the elites neighborhood and we should protect the elites property values
 
cawacko said:
Interesting column from Charles Blow (a progressive black writer for the NY Times). It's really long so I just posted the link. Basic premise is black people in Northern Cities should move back to the South where they will have large numbers and be able to have far more political power.

People of all stripes have been moving to the South for years because of jobs, affordable housing and lower cost of living. I question the idea that black power and advancement comes from having more black politicians but it's a big part of what's being argued here.

(I did include one portion of the column below where he responds to the question of isn't the South more racist than the North. His answer is that its not.)






We Need a Second Great Migration

Georgia illuminates the path to Black power. It lies in the South. Follow me there.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/opinion/georgia-black-political-power.html?smid=tw-share




Others have objected: Isn’t the North just better for Black people than the South?

Many Black people are leery of the South, if not afraid of it. They still have in their minds a retrograde South: dirty and dusty, overgrown and underdeveloped, a third-world region in a first-world country. They see a region that is unenlightened and repressive, overrun by religious zealots and open racists. The caricatures have calcified: hillbillies and banjos, Confederate flags and the Ku Klux Klan.

To be sure, all of that is here. But racism is more evenly distributed across the country than we are willing to admit.

It is true that in surveys, people in the North express support for fewer racially biased ideas than those in the South, but such surveys reveal only which biases people confess to, not the ones they subconsciously possess. So I asked the researchers at Project Implicit to run an analysis of their massive data set to see if there were regional differences in pro-white or anti-Black prejudice. The result, which one of the researchers described as “slightly surprising,” was that there was almost no difference in the level of bias between white people in the South and those in the Northeast or Midwest. (The bias of white people in the West was slightly lower.)

White people outside the South are more likely to say the right words, but many possess the same bigotry. Racism is everywhere. And if that’s the case, wouldn’t you rather have some real political power to address that racism? And a yard!

For decades Northern liberals have maintained the illusion of their moral superiority to justify their lack of progress in terms of racial equality. The North’s arrogant insistence that it had no race problem, or at least a minimal one, allowed a racialized police militarism to take root. It allowed housing and education segregation to flourish in supposedly “diverse” cities. It allowed for the rise of Black ghettos and concentrated poverty as well as white flight and urban disinvestment.

The supposed egalitarianism of Northern cities is a flimsy disguise for a white supremacy that diverges from its Southern counterpart only in style, not substance.

And, while the North has been stuck in its self-righteous stasis, the savagery of the South has in some ways softened, or morphed. I am careful not to position this progress as fully redemptive or restorative. White supremacy clearly still exists here, corrupting everything from criminal justice to electoral access. The “New South” — with its thriving Black middle class and increasing political power — is still more aspiration than reality.

But the wishful idealizing of a New South is no more naïve than a willful blindness to the transgressions of the Now North. As the author Jesmyn Ward wrote in 2018 in Time about her decision to leave Stanford and move back to Mississippi, American racism is an “infinite room”: “It is the bedrock beneath the soil. Racial violence and subjugation happen on the streets of St. Louis, on the sidewalks of New York City and in the BART stations of Oakland.”

Black people have traversed this country in search of a place where the hand of oppression was lightest and the spirit of prosperity was greatest, but have had to learn a bitter lesson: Racism is everywhere.
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Yeah, you need an other great migration, that's for certain.


The kind that Abraham Lincoln was trying to organaize before he was assassinated on 15th April, 1856; namely, the deportation ("migration) of all Afro-Americans from the US back to their native African homelands.


If Lincoln had been able to deport all of America's freed slaves after the Civil War (1861-1865) it would have saved the US an asronomical amount of civil unrest/disorder and countess trillions in tax- payer dollars.


And Abraham Lincoln was NOT a racist, BTW. It was he, afterall, who liberated Blacks in America from slavery.



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cawacko said:
Poor white trash can’t buy or rent duplexes or new apartments in the suburbs. It’s funny, you have those who claim Republicans should be more focused on the working man and working class and here you are saying the working man isn’t worthy of living in the elites neighborhood and we should protect the elites property values
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exactly. that's why it a class issue.
 
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