and you can fill it up easily anywhere from sea to shining sea.
Charging an electric vehicle still cheaper than filling a gas one. MAGA wets panties.
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and you can fill it up easily anywhere from sea to shining sea.
Whatever turns your key.
My maintenance costs haven't been bad with my Ferd. A few burned out light bulbs, a defect in the instrument panel (factory design problem), the usual oil changes, etc.
You can't let 'em go though. Something that sounds like pinging can be a serious problem on an F-150 that needs immediate attention or the engine will grenade. There are several stupid engineering problems with the 5.4 engine on these things. No car is immune to stupid engineering stunts, but Ferd seems to have collected them. GM is real bad. That's Government Motors for you.
Meh. It's a Ferd. It hauls a lot, which is why I use it.
Japanese cars have reached an unparalleled level of quality, I agree.
Not necessarily true. People tend to abuse their truck engines and drive train, so there's that. I've noticed that Nissan and Toyota owners aren't so bad with abusing their trucks. Sure they work hard, and have to do some off road and even a bit of fording like many trucks, but such owners tend to take better care of them while driving.
The F-150 isn't an aluminum body. It is an aluminum steel alloy that is VERY strong and also light. It's an interesting material. My old buzzard doesn't have that. It's a steel body.
The material is actually quite strong, despite it's light weight. GM bodies are shit and they always were, both for their cars and their trucks. The joke is that a GM car would rust apart before it even left the showroom lot.
Heh. Been there! My old buzzard took it like a champ. Just another ding.
Like I said, it's not aluminum. The alloy is interesting, however. I am not yet aware how it holds up to a backhoe sticking another ding in it.
You don't ford with an EV. You will destroy the battery almost instantly. It can even cause a battery fire.
Yup. This can damage the battery too, since it's on the bottom of the car. They can't put a skid plate on there because the battery pack must be exposed to undercarriage air to cool it.
That'll do in the battery pretty quick. Probably instant fire. EV's aren't made for off road work. Only idiots mess with lowering kits so that a mere speed bump takes off your bumpers.
Okay. No problem. I use it because it hauls a lot. It still has the steel body. I have had no major maintenance issues with it. Yeah, it's a Ferd. It was cheap and it does the job I need it for.
Matt Dillon
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I got 2 vehicles right now, both full of gas that was bought cheaply.
Corolla gets like what? 30+ MPG?
Pssht, it runs, it drives, it starts, it stops. The AC and radio work.
Wow. Doesn't sound much like a heavy duty truck with all that wrong with it.
Piddle power won't help you charge your Tesla.
Matt Dillon
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Uh yeah, it was just a 1/2 ton and I worked it..a bit too much.
It was a 1/2 ton Chevy. Would not recommend.
I didn't get around to screwing with the suspension or anything. I broke it with work.
3/4 ton diesel Ford is a different story.
Love those big tanks!
Of course, at $4.10/gal, that's gonna be $146 dollars to pump 35 gallons now.
Not quite as bad as the Yugo, but you have the right idea.
I got 2 vehicles right now, both full of gas that was bought cheaply.
Corolla gets like what? 30+ MPG?
Pssht, it runs, it drives, it starts, it stops. The AC and radio work.
I happened to fill up the Element at something < $3. That'll probably last a month or so.
So, you spend $50k minimum on an electric automobile, and another $60k on solar panels, batteries, wiring and a charging station if you even have enough room for them. You will need a second lifetime to break even. I'll take the small 4cyl. turbo in an SUV.
Void argument fallacy. You deny math.
Define 'environmental damage'.
No. I've already covered this. Argument of the Stone fallacy.
Makes no difference.
Already covered. Argument of the Stone fallacy.
True. You deny it anyway.
No. I have covered this. Argument of the Stone fallacy.
Chanting religious scripture is not going to change the math, dude.
well they looked nice on the lot. Wasnt until you got it home and started driving it that you discovered all the problems. In the end you literally balled it up and threw it away.
Hydrogen is the key. but not necessarily liquid. There are some interesting alternatives being worked on. We shall see where that leads.
Tesla does not recommend pulling a trailer with a Model 3. You can get hitches for it, of course (why?), but Tesla says no...probably because at the least, the range sucks, and the motors are under extra strain. The springs and brakes aren't really set up for it either.
Curb weight of a Tesla Model 3 standard range vehicle is 3712lbs (heavy!). Longer range vehicles are heavier, with the long range option coming in at 4257lbs!. Remember this is a medium sized coupe, not a truck!
Gross vehicle maximum weight is 4541lbs, a mere payload of 829 lbs (including passengers and all cargo)!
The long range option is even worse, with a useful payload of 824 lbs.
This means a lightweight utility trailer, such as you might get at Lowes, exceeds the gross vehicle maximum weight.
Nope. No towing.
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That you can! Only takes a few minutes to do it, too!
People will always pay for convenience.
That you can! Only takes a few minutes to do it, too!
Not to mention it keeps you warm and cozy as a side effect instead of draining battery like a drunk on a 40 or Miller.
I got 2 vehicles right now, both full of gas that was bought cheaply.
Corolla gets like what? 30+ MPG?
Pssht, it runs, it drives, it starts, it stops. The AC and radio work.
Good enuf!
Guess that's the last Chevy you'll have for awhile!
That it is. Yeah, it's a Ferd, but it can haul a lot of ass around a Chevy.3/4 ton diesel Ford is a different story.
Hydrogen is not the key. Here's why:
Hydrogen has to be manufactured. That means you have to put the energy into making hydrogen. More energy than you will get out of the hydrogen when you use it (burning it or a fuel cell).
Hydrogen is bulky, even when compressed. Compressed tanks are rather dangerous to mess with. Fueling them causes a big drop in pressure from the filler nozzle. That causes it to literally freeze to the car during filling. It can be a real pain to get it unstuck again. You basically have to wait for it to thaw out after filling stops. This is due to the ideal gas law taking effect here. Meanwhile, of course, others behind you in line are waiting for your nozzle to thaw.
Hydrogen fueling stations aren't available everywhere.
Liquid hydrogen is not used in cars. Too dangerous to store and handle in those quantities and the freezing problem would be even worse.
It takes significant time for the fuel cell to 'spin up' and produce power. They get HOT doing this, and fans are used to keep the fuel cell from destructing. It actually sounds a bit like a noisy turbocharger when it's ramping up to power. To cover this, hydrogen cars have large batteries to cover the gap if acceleration is needed. These batteries are recharged by the fuel cell itself when not being used to accelerate.