Capitalists have literally poisoned almost everybody on earth. Here how they did it;

AProudLefty said:
Not an argument.

So what example did you have in mind? I am curious.
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Argument?

It's a fact. You try and rewrite reality to fit your fantasy. The Plains Indians were BRUTAL, more like roving street gangs than civilized people. Murder, rape, slaving, and robbing was the foundation of the Indians.

Or maybe you meant the Aztecs? Who were FAR worse than the Nazis - engaged in constant genocide..

I love it when fascist leftards try and recreate the Indians into some peaceful and loving society..

Never existed.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Nope. They're a subspecies, Politicians and some are even lower down the food chain since they're also liars... err, lawyers...
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Well that's true with some politicians. They need to be dealt with harshly. History is not so kind to those types of politicians.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Yea, like lawyers. It's the 99% of politicians that give the other 1% a horrid reputation...
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IMO, it's the other way around. Name 5 honest, honorable politicians in Congress. I can't do it. Can you?

100 Senators.
435 Representatives
535 total. 1% = 5.35
 
Uncensored2008 said:
No, the Nazis were not capitalists. The Nazis were socialists.

Your big lie failed decades ago.

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Economic Minister of the Third Reich - Nazi Germany - 1933
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Oh really? All of those corporations in Nazi Germany were publicly owned? No, they weren't, they were privately owned. They were however effectively controlled by the government. So yes, that's capitalism. You can have capitalism without a free-market.
 
Guille said:
Oh really? All of those corporations in Nazi Germany were publicly owned? No, they weren't, they were privately owned. They were however effectively controlled by the government. So yes, that's capitalism. You can have capitalism without a free-market.
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Some were publicly owned, like Junkers aircraft for example. The Nazi government bailed the corporation out when it went under. Others, like Krupp, were privately owned. All were effectively controlled by the government, often with the explicit consent of the owners. For example, Krupp had a subsidiary, Hartzmetallzentral, that the Nazi government gave a monopoly to on manufacture and sale of tungsten carbide in Germany. Monopolies of this sort were fairly common in Germany during that period and the government was complicit in keeping them in business.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Some were publicly owned, like Junkers aircraft for example. The Nazi government bailed the corporation out when it went under. Others, like Krupp, were privately owned. All were effectively controlled by the government, often with the explicit consent of the owners. For example, Krupp had a subsidiary, Hartzmetallzentral, that the Nazi government gave a monopoly to on manufacture and sale of tungsten carbide in Germany. Monopolies of this sort were fairly common in Germany during that period and the government was complicit in keeping them in business.
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Yep. Private ownership is still capitalism though. The problem here is that American education is defective, too many people think capitalism and socialism are at odds when they aren't, they can and do co-exist...look at our banking, automotive, and agricultural industries. The true battle is between free-markets and planned economies. Free-markets are by necessity capitalist but a planned economy can also be capitalist if the government merely controls the market without actually owning the means of production. Was Nazi Germany capitalist? Yes. It was also socialist.
 
Guille said:
Yep. Private ownership is still capitalism though. The problem here is that American education is defective, too many people think capitalism and socialism are at odds when they aren't, they can and do co-exist...look at our banking, automotive, and agricultural industries. The true battle is between free-markets and planned economies. Free-markets are by necessity capitalist but a planned economy can also be capitalist if the government merely controls the market without actually owning the means of production. Was Nazi Germany capitalist? Yes. It was also socialist.
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Nazi Germany was Statist Capitalist. That is the economy was heavily socialized, but the means of production was generally in private hands. China today is the same way.
 
Where you don't want government in the market is when it starts picking winners and losers. When government starts doing that, we all get fucked.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Shortens your life by making you live longer. Those insidious capitalists hide the fact they are killing you by making your life longer.

The thought waves from beta-fallatio told you so...
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You've lost the argument so quit trying to prolong it with inane nonsense,
You've been poisoned. Capitalists did it for their profit. In attempting to defend them you look exactly like a laboratory monkey.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Nazi Germany was Statist Capitalist. That is the economy was heavily socialized, but the means of production was generally in private hands. China today is the same way.
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Personally, I get a little frustrated with the huge variety of labels for slightly different versions of gov'ts. Often these designations are not commonly used, and the definitions are not always fully agreed upon. (Semantics rant over)

Anyway, IMO, the Nazis were PINO, Private In Name Only. All German citizens were required to Serve the State. Disobedience meant death, prison or financial ruin (cancel culture).

The "owners" of corps were gov't bureaucrats without the official titles. PINO is still socialism.

The Nazis did have a massive welfare State. The National Socialists controlled the economy. Prices, wages, and the items to be produced were determined and set by the State.
 
BartenderElite said:
Huh?

I'm guessing you responded to the wrong post.
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It was meant for YOU. Apparently, environmentalists ARE extreme right wingers.



"“Eco-fascism” is receiving renewed attention following the recent far-right terrorist attack at a supermarket in Buffalo, New York. In his manifesto, the perpetrator hailed as an inspiration the 2019 Christchurch attacker, himself a self-declared “eco-fascist,’’ and plagiarised his manifesto’s section on environmentalism which described immigration as “environmental warfare” and ‘’destructive to nature.’’ Notably, the Buffalo attacker also quoted Ted Kaczynski, otherwise known as the Unabomber, excerpting Kaczynski’s critiques of leftists from his 1995 anti-technology manifesto Industrial Society and its Future (he was not the first far-right terrorist to do so, Anders Breivik also plagiarised Kaczynski’s manifesto in 2011).

Kaczynski is a figure contemporary eco-fascists have coalesced around."

https://www.icct.nl/publication/ted-kaczynski-anti-technology-radicalism-and-eco-fascism

Amazing how they have twisted the "environmentalist" Kaczynski into an extreme right winger. :palm:
 
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