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He's like the puppy that won't stop shitting on the carpet even when its nose is rubbed in it.
Capitalism rules! CA won't buy cars from makers that backed TRUMPs emissions rollback
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He's like the puppy that won't stop shitting on the carpet even when its nose is rubbed in it.
Teflon Don
I'm back baby
Why the exception for bad cops?
I think it is pretty easy to make lifestyle and policy changes at the margins, like switching government fleet cars to hybrids.
But I don't think we should kid ourselves that achieving a sustainable carbon footprint is going to be easy.
The carbon footprint in the U.S., on a per capita basis, is something like 18 tons per person per year. In China it is around 8 tons per year.
Scientists estimate a sustainable carbon footprint is around 2 tons per year per person. That is close to a 90 percent decrease from current baseline levels in the U.S., if my math is correct.
We have a long way to go to achieve a neutral carbon footprint. It is going to take a sustained, international effort by governments, citizens, and NGOs to even have a chance at achieving those kind of reductions.
Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
Yep, Cali's little temper tantrum achieves nothing. Green cars aren't really very green.
Doomsday cultists.
Why do I, and I can't figure it out for myself, but, why do I always think of the Deepwater Horizon when I'm forced to hear your little British accented voice?
I know you have investments in BP and where responsible for rushing the job so you could get a few more shillings on the Quarterly Report.
Havana (anything for a Quid) Moon. (Sad)
It seems likely or probable that many California municipalities and county car fleets will follow that State government's lead over time, thus resulting in significant economic losses for Toyota, Chrysler, et al.
I have always maintained that worshipping Trumpf and being eager to kiss his huge, flabby ass does not pay. But I guess some people are going to have to learn the hard way.
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I spoke to a Norwegian here in Thailand recently, he told that he worked for Emerson the people that made the defective blowout preventer. I asked him why did BP get most of the blame and he said that's down to scumbag US lawyers and a racist president. Oh and another thing, why is it when you get yet another good kicking, do you then attempt to duck and dive and bring up some irrelevant bullshit?
I think BP were the 'Operators' and they were responsible for anything that happened.
Since you're an Idiot, I will have to educate you:
"On August 30, 1967, a diverse group of California leaders came together to unify statewide efforts to address severe air pollution. Governor Ronald Reagan approved the Mulford-Carrell Air Resources Act to create the State Air Resources Board, committing California to a unified, statewide approach to aggressively address the serious issue of air pollution in the state."
https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/about/history
"It was not until the early 1950s that it became clear the automobile was the main culprit. That’s when Dr. Arie Haagen-Smit discovered the nature and causes of photochemical smog. He made the discovery while on a one-year leave of absence from Caltech, where he was a bioorganic chemistry professor. Working in a specially-equipped Los Angeles air district laboratory, he determined that two chief constituents of automobile exhaust – airborne hydrocarbons from gasoline, and oxides of nitrogen (NOx) produced by internal combustion engines – were to blame for smog. His research, highlighting the reaction of sunlight with automobile exhaust and industrial air pollution, became the foundation upon which today’s air pollution regulations are based."
Are you reading any of this?
"That was just the beginning. Under the provisions of the Clean Air Act, CARB has adopted, implemented and enforced a wide array of nation-leading air pollution controls, based on a strong foundation of science over the next five decades. This regulatory history reflects a longstanding partnership between state and federal air quality regulators during both Republican and Democratic presidential administrations. This partnership has allowed California to develop and implement air pollution control strategies that have proven to be a model for other states, the nation and other countries."
"In the 1980s and ‘90s, California cars became the cleanest in the world, and California’s fuel became the cleanest, too. CARB, which had already eliminated lead in gasoline, adopted standards for cleaner-burning gasoline, as well as initial standards for cleaner diesel fuel for trucks and buses. CARB also began work to reduce smog-forming emissions from thousands of common household products."
"That was just the beginning. Under the provisions of the Clean Air Act, CARB has adopted, implemented and enforced a wide array of nation-leading air pollution controls, based on a strong foundation of science over the next five decades. This regulatory history reflects a longstanding partnership between state and federal air quality regulators during both Republican and Democratic presidential administrations. This partnership has allowed California to develop and implement air pollution control strategies that have proven to be a model for other states, the nation and other countries."
"In the 1980s and ‘90s, California cars became the cleanest in the world, and California’s fuel became the cleanest, too. CARB, which had already eliminated lead in gasoline, adopted standards for cleaner-burning gasoline, as well as initial standards for cleaner diesel fuel for trucks and buses. CARB also began work to reduce smog-forming emissions from thousands of common household products."
Yep, Cali's little temper tantrum achieves nothing. Green cars aren't really very green.
Doomsday cultists.
While it takes a bit of overemphasis of the worst case scenario by the press to move the needle of public opinion, your wholesale dismissal of all science on the matter is inexcusable
and cannot be explained other than by fealty to the dirty energy sector profits impaired by scientific fact.
You are closer to witting and recalcitrant flat earthers than we are to doomsday cultists. After all, we have ALL the science.
There is no science on the matter. All of nothing still equals nothing.
Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
Any warming the planet has experienced is within the parameters of natural variability.
The Al Gorians are a Doomsday cult run by power hungry rich white liberals. You do't see Blacks or Hispanics or Asians or the poor, ... getting the vapors and fainting in fear over CO2
And there is nothing scientific about throwing modern proxy data in the trash and substituting satellite measurements in order to create a false paradigm.
It violates the prime rules of scientific methodology.
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Again more diversionary bullshit, didn't anybody tell when in a hole to stop digging?
California recognized a problem with pollution from cars. It did something about it. They set standards for cars to meet. Detroit laughed. California told Detroit it wouldn't be allowed to sell cars in California that didn't meet the standard. Detroit began building cars that met the standard.
The Emission Controls that are in place for Britain ... you can thank California.
At least try and look shit up before opening your mouth. You just look stupid.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/24/los-angeles-is-still-the-smoggiest-us-city-report-says.html
This from a party that cannot even figure the difference between a male and a female. Some "scientists".