Capitalism rules! CA won't buy cars from makers that backed TRUMPs emissions rollback

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Centerleftfl

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Outstanding. Newsom has some balls. I would suspect that CA buys a whoooole lot of vehicles, trucks buses, etc. They have over a quarter million state employees (and that doesn't include the university system which is huge).


California to stop buying from automakers that backed Trump in emissions battle

BY JUSTINE COLEMAN - 11/18/19 07:54 PM EST 1,314

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California has announced plans to stop buying vehicles from automakers that backed President Trump during the state’s battle over whether it can set tougher emissions standards.

The California Department of General Services issued a statement Friday saying the state plans to end purchases from automakers that have not committed to following California’s tailpipe emission regulations, including General Motors, Toyota and Fiat Chrysler, by January. California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) tweeted Monday confirming the announcement.

General Motors, Toyota and Fiat Chrysler have taken the president’s side as he loosens Obama-era restrictions on tailpipe emissions and takes steps to prevent California from having its own regulations.

The state bought $58.6 million worth of vehicles from General Motors, $55.8 million from Fiat Chrysler and $10.6 million from Toyota between 2016 and 2018, according to Reuters. California buys between 2,000 and 3,000 vehicles a year, The New York Times reported.

California will now obtain vehicles from Ford, Honda, Volkswagen and BMW, the four automakers that have committed to following the state’s regulations, according to the Times.


https://thehill.com/policy/energy-e...lt-buying-from-automakers-who-backed-trump-in
 
More importantly state will no longer purchase vehicles powered solely by gas, with exceptions for law enforcement agencies
 
Cypress said:
More importantly state will no longer purchase vehicles powered solely by gas, with exceptions for law enforcement agencies
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You know everything is WORKABLE. Everything is doable. It is belligerent ignorance and contempt that are the forces behind all this fuck you, we'll do what we want to. There isn't a gas company out there that doesn't AGREE and know the inevitability and has a plan for the inevitable. Fuck you, fuck your kids, we'll be dead when these decisions become dire and must be made. Just give me MY quarterly profit NOW!
 
Centerleftfl said:
You know everything is WORKABLE. Everything is doable. It is belligerent ignorance and contempt that are the forces behind all this fuck you, we'll do what we want to. There isn't a gas company out there that doesn't AGREE and know the inevitability and has a plan for the inevitable. Fuck you, fuck your kids, we'll be dead when these decisions become dire and must be made. Just give me MY quarterly profit NOW!
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Pointless virtue signalling, California already imports 29% of its electricity from other states. That figure will rise markedly with more EVs on the road. It already has the highest electricity prices in the US, but limousine liberals like Crypiss and McSquawker couldn't give a shit about the poor in their state. The loonys have already shut down all the CCGT power stations and El Diablo is next on the list.
 
Havana Moon said:
Pointless virtue signalling, California already imports 29% of its electricity from other states. That figure will rise markedly with more EVs on the road. It already has the highest electricity prices in the US, but limousine liberals like Crypiss and McSquawker couldn't give a shit about the poor in their state. The loonys have already shut down all the CCGT power stations and El Diablo is next on the list.
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"A total of 739 operating Solar power plants, with an installed capacity about 11,889 megawatts, are in California. Prior to the Renewable Portfolio Standards in 2002, 13 solar thermal power projects were planned in California, with 11 of those filing applications with the Energy Commission.
California Solar Energy Statistics and Data"

Do you have ANY Sun in England?
 
"The 579 MW Solar Star power plant (formerly Antelope Valley Solar Projects) was completed in 2015 and currently stands as the world's largest operating solar farm. Located in Rosamond, California, this solar power plant uses 1.7 million solar panels made by SunPower and spreads over 13 square kilometers (3,200 acres).Apr 16, 2018
These Are The Biggest Solar Power Plants In America | Alba Energy"
 
"Due to high electricity demand, California imports more electricity than any other state, primarily wind and hydroelectric power from states in the Pacific Northwest (via Path 15 and Path 66) and nuclear, coal-, and natural gas-fired production from the desert Southwest via Path 46.
Energy in California - Wikipedia"
 
Havana Moon said:
Pointless virtue signalling, California already imports 29% of its electricity from other states. That figure will rise markedly with more EVs on the road. It already has the highest electricity prices in the US, but limousine liberals like Crypiss and McSquawker couldn't give a shit about the poor in their state. The loonys have already shut down all the CCGT power stations and El Diablo is next on the list.
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"According to the map, Alaska is more than seven times the size of the UK, which covers 93,627.8 square miles and comprises four countries: England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Oil-rich Texas is almost three times the size of the UK, while sunny California is almost twice as big.Sep 6, 2017
The 11 US states that are bigger than the UK | Daily Mail Online"

(shaking head)
 
Havana Moon said:
Pointless virtue signalling, California already imports 29% of its electricity from other states. That figure will rise markedly with more EVs on the road. It already has the highest electricity prices in the US, but limousine liberals like Crypiss and McSquawker couldn't give a shit about the poor in their state. The loonys have already shut down all the CCGT power stations and El Diablo is next on the list.
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"California's economy is now the fifth biggest in the world, and has overtaken the United Kingdom"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/california-economy-overtakes-uk-fifth-biggest-world-a8347291.html

Who told you 'Thomas Cook Tours' was a good Investment?
 
Jack said:
"According to the map, Alaska is more than seven times the size of the UK, which covers 93,627.8 square miles and comprises four countries: England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Oil-rich Texas is almost three times the size of the UK, while sunny California is almost twice as big.Sep 6, 2017
The 11 US states that are bigger than the UK | Daily Mail Online"

(shaking head)
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Jack said:
"The 579 MW Solar Star power plant (formerly Antelope Valley Solar Projects) was completed in 2015 and currently stands as the world's largest operating solar farm. Located in Rosamond, California, this solar power plant uses 1.7 million solar panels made by SunPower and spreads over 13 square kilometers (3,200 acres).Apr 16, 2018
These Are The Biggest Solar Power Plants In America | Alba Energy"
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You're just not very bright and switched on, are you Jack? Luckily there are people in California like Michael Shellenberger that are way more intelligent and knowledgeable than you. In future, don't bring a knife to a gunfight you'll get killed.

“While climate activist Greta Thunberg is sailing with wind power to the Sustainability Summit in New York,” wrote Die Welt, “the German wind power industry is sailing into the doldrums.”

The halting of wind deployment in Germany has resulted in the industry shedding 25,000 jobs over the last year.

It’s not clear Germany can handle much more wind. Its electricity grid operator increasingly has to cut off electricity from industrial wind farms on windy, low-demand days, to avoid blow-outs.

The same is happening in California. The grid operator increasingly must pay neighboring states to take the state’s excess solar electricity, and cut off power coming from solar farms, on sunny, low-demand days.

Experts say the deployment of industrial wind energy in the United States is likely to stall when the key wind energy subsidy, known as the production tax credit or PTC, expires on December 31 of this year.

Renewables advocates say that costs will eventually come down, subsidies will be renewed, and state mandates will kick in enough to save the industrial wind and solar industries.

But those efforts are unlikely to be successful enough politically to make much difference to the economics of renewables.

In Ohio, lawmakers recently scaled back renewable energy mandates due to their high cost, choosing to instead to subsidize nuclear plants.

Around the world, renewables are making electricity more expensive, despite years of promises by advocates that prices would come down.

“German electricity consumers will again have to pay higher subsidies to producers of green electricity in the next two years,” reported Die Welt last month.

In Australia, the “increasing regularity with which wholesale power prices are sinking below $0 during sunny and windy days is being more than canceled out by more frequent high prices, defying expectations of a softening in levels overall,” noted The Australian Financial Review on Sunday.

“While I am an advocate for renewable energy, my motivation is driven by economics, not by warm and fuzzy feelings,” a renewable industry leader emailed me recently to say.

“I’ve drawn out the long term macroeconomics and come to the conclusions that you do. Essentially, the math doesn’t pencil out for wind, solar, and water,” he said.

The University of Chicago found earlier this year that renewable energy mandates “significantly increase average retail electricity prices.”
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/michae...enewables-cant-save-the-climate/#f44b2533526f
 
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General Motors, Toyota and Fiat Chrysler have taken the president’s side as he loosens Obama-era restrictions on tailpipe emissions and takes steps to prevent California from having its own regulations.

The state bought $58.6 million worth of vehicles from General Motors, $55.8 million from Fiat Chrysler and $10.6 million from Toyota between 2016 and 2018, according to Reuters. California buys between 2,000 and 3,000 vehicles a year, The New York Times reported.

California will now obtain vehicles from Ford, Honda, Volkswagen and BMW, the four automakers that have committed to following the state’s regulations, according to the Times.
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Ca is a big enough market by itself in many cases for manufactures to sell a dedicated product line that meets it's regulation.
This is what's happening -there is no larger victory, it's segmented marketing, and not even from all manufacturers
 
Experts say the deployment of industrial wind energy in the United States is likely to stall when the key wind energy subsidy, known as the production tax credit or PTC, expires on December 31 of this year.
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artificial price support
Renewables advocates say that costs will eventually come down, subsidies will be renewed, and state mandates will kick in enough to save the industrial wind and solar industries.
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everything R&D will be marketable "someday" -it doesn't mean it's ready for prime time mass marketing now
 
Centerleftfl said:
[FONT=&]Outstanding. Newsom has some balls. I would suspect that CA buys a whoooole lot of vehicles, trucks buses, etc. They have over a quarter million state employees (and that doesn't include the university system which is huge).


California to stop buying from automakers that backed Trump in emissions battle

[FONT=&]BY JUSTINE COLEMAN - 11/18/19 07:54 PM EST[/FONT] 1,314
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[/FONT][FONT=&][FONT=&][FONT=&]California has announced plans to stop buying vehicles from automakers that backed President Trump during the state’s battle over whether it can set tougher emissions standards.

The California Department of General Services issued a statement Friday saying the state plans to end purchases from automakers that have not committed to following California’s tailpipe emission regulations, including General Motors, Toyota and Fiat Chrysler, by January. California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) tweeted Monday confirming the announcement.

General Motors, Toyota and Fiat Chrysler have taken the president’s side as he loosens Obama-era restrictions on tailpipe emissions and takes steps to prevent California from having its own regulations.

The state bought $58.6 million worth of vehicles from General Motors, $55.8 million from Fiat Chrysler and $10.6 million from Toyota between 2016 and 2018, according to Reuters. California buys between 2,000 and 3,000 vehicles a year, The New York Times reported.

California will now obtain vehicles from Ford, Honda, Volkswagen and BMW, the four automakers that have committed to following the state’s regulations, according to the Times.
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Sounds to me like someone is rubbing their balls on Newson's chin.
 
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