Canada bans handguns

[Dutch Uncle]

I see, so you're a wasted vote. Good job, fuckface. You're no better than those invertebrates at the so-called center.

You see, stupid, if you're a Republican and it comes down to either Trump or Biden, you choose Trump. You don't throw your vote away and help Pedo Joe win, which is exactly what you did.

Do you see the problem here? Of course you don't, because the truth is, you're a secret admirer of the biggest fuckup in US Presidential history (Joe Biden). Congratulations, you've been outed.

Your bitter hatred of Americans and the United States military is noted, Granny. Enjoy your geezerhood.

Is your endgame suicide or murder/suicide? Obviously you've chosen not to live happily ever after surrounded by the love of your family.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Well, those are forms of isolation, too. They're isolated from help, whether that's medical, psychological, or social.

I'm not clear what you're asking here. But if your point is that possible policy solutions could reduce excess suicide from people being too far from psychologists and hospitals, I think that's true. Telehealth should already be reducing the gap if psychologists are the answer, because these days you can literally call up a psychologist whenever for a video conference and even get, say, anti-anxiety drugs prescribed over the phone. Presumably that's not as good as seeing someone in person, but it's also presumably better than nothing, so if that's a big factor, we'd expect to see the gap narrowing.....

As the saying goes, "Necessity is the mother of invention". Thanks to Trump fucking up the US COVID response, telemedicine and telecommuting to work has made great advances both in tech and acceptable social usage. Still, how much of that is covered by basic healthcare packages? Or do you assume everyone is as rich as you are? The "Let them eat cake" views on social problems.

 

[Granule]

Your bitter hatred of Americans and the United States military is noted, Granny. Enjoy your geezerhood.

Is your endgame suicide or murder/suicide? Obviously you've chosen not to live happily ever after surrounded by the love of your family.

See, this is where you and I differ: You hate people; I only hate wrong behaviors, and your behavior is all wrong.

Don't be an idiot and waste your vote; centrists do it all the time.

 

[Mina]

As the saying goes, "Necessity is the mother of invention". Thanks to Trump fucking up the US COVID response, telemedicine and telecommuting to work has made great advances both in tech and acceptable social usage. Still, how much of that is covered by basic healthcare packages? Or do you assume everyone is as rich as you are? The "Let them eat cake" views on social problems.

My health insurance package covers it, but I work for a big employer, so my situation is probably quite different from those stuck at crappy little employers who can't negotiate decent benefits for their employees. That's an argument in favor of expanding Obamacare, so these kinds of things are more accessible for anyone. Sadly, that runs afoul of the "let them eat shit" approach of libertarians and Republicans to social problems.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

See, this is where you and I differ: You hate people; I only hate wrong behaviors, and your behavior is all wrong.

Don't be an idiot and waste your vote; centrists do it all the time.

Your projection is interesting, Granny. You're one lying about others, slinging names and spreading hate but you believe I'm the one who hates people. On what basis to you believe that to be true? Is it because I disagreed with you? Because I correctly identified you as a bitter, angry elderly and very lonely Euro-American facing the end of his life?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

My health insurance package covers it, but I work for a big employer, so my situation is probably quite different from those stuck at crappy little employers who can't negotiate decent benefits for their employees. That's an argument in favor of expanding Obamacare, so these kinds of things are more accessible for anyone. Sadly, that runs afoul of the "let them eat shit" approach of libertarians and Republicans to social problems.

Exactly my point. Telling starving people begging for bread to "just eat cake" isn't fixing anything.

Yes, the Republicans are against expanding healthcare but when faced with the frontal assault of banning guns they might be persuaded that some minor improvements for mental healthcare for K-12 is a preferable and popular option.

Once these programs are established for kids and the results seen by all, employers could be more easily convinced to use similar programs for their employees. The more popular a program, the more likely voters will push Congress to expand it.

A lot of psych screening can be done on computers. 30-60 minutes once or twice a year would be a good start.

Example: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/tests/health/mental-health-assessment
Mental Health Assessment
Depression
What Type of Smart Are You?
Extroversion
Attention Span Test
Type-A Personality
Memory Test
Anger Management Test
Assertiveness
Perfectionism Test

 

[Granule]

Your projection is interesting, Granny. You're one lying about others, slinging names and spreading hate but you believe I'm the one who hates people. On what basis to you believe that to be true? Is it because I disagreed with you? Because I correctly identified you as a bitter, angry elderly and very lonely Euro-American facing the end of his life?

See, I don't tell lies, BU. You're just upset that I woke you up to the fact that you're a wasted vote.

I don't think you're used to people smacking you around with the truth. But see, that's why I'm here. I'm here to help you understand you.

You say you're a Republican but you vote like a god damn centrist. The truth is, you're confused. On one hand your conscience is telling you to vote Right, because it is right, but on the other hand you admire democrats. Sure, they're filthy lying degenerates, but at least they stand firm in their filth, and you admire that.

The big question now is, do you step away from the swamp or do you just dive in?

Well stupid? Which one is it?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

See, I don't tell lies, BU. You're just upset that I woke you up to the fact that you're a wasted vote.

I don't think you're used to people smacking you around with the truth. But see, that's why I'm here. I'm here to help you understand you.

You say you're a Republican but you vote like a god damn centrist. The truth is, you're confused. On one hand your conscience is telling you to vote Right, because it is right, but on the other hand you admire democrats. Sure, they're filthy lying degenerates, but at least they stand firm in their filth, and you admire that.

The big question now is, do you step away from the swamp or do you just dive in?

Well stupid? Which one is it?

Interesting to see you so excited, Granny.

Thanks for evidence you only see what you want to see: I'm not a Republican. I used to be one for over three decades but Romney was my last vote because too many fucking morons like you killed the GOP and infected it with your racist bullshit and lies. See examples below.

Re "centrist"; most fanatics and political extremists like you are mentally warped if not actually demented. You see the world in black and white since your mental faculties are incapable of seeing the greater nuances of reality. I lean conservative because experience has taught me that rushing into things can cause more problems than it solves. An example is the Democrat rush to ban guns even though it's simply repeating their previous mistakes on the issue.

You are free to label whatever you like and vice-versa. JPP members can assess for themselves who is more evenly balanced and who is a hater.

You're talking about liberal jews. Those people are sell outs, and have forsaken their heritage.

It's like this, wackjob. If you're black and you vote democrat, then you're a "nigger". If you're white and you vote democrat, then you're "white trash". If you're Asian and you vote democrat, then you're a "zipper head". If you're Hispanic and you vote democrat, then you're a "wetback".

There are a few exceptions as I believe there are some democrats, though misguided, who are truly trying to help others.

I hope that clears things up for you.

Easy, nigger.

Nobody asked for your opinion, and that's for good reason.

Even you have to admit that your overt racism isn't worth shit.

lol.

There's no way in hell we let you dumbfucks turn the country into Detroit.

Don't be a nigger; be an American.

You also need to stop blaming others. Just put your finger away and get your shit together. The country is running out of time.

 

[Granule]

Interesting to see you so excited, Granny.

Thanks for evidence you only see what you want to see: I'm not a Republican. I used to be one for over three decades but Romney was my last vote because too many fucking morons like you killed the GOP and infected it with your racist bullshit and lies. See examples below.

Re "centrist"; most fanatics and political extremists like you are mentally warped if not actually demented. You see the world in black and white since your mental faculties are incapable of seeing the greater nuances of reality. I lean conservative because experience has taught me that rushing into things can cause more problems than it solves. An example is the Democrat rush to ban guns even though it's simply repeating their previous mistakes on the issue.

You are free to label whatever you like and vice-versa. JPP members can assess for themselves who is more evenly balanced and who is a hater.

Look, it's OK to admit that you're a wasted vote. The democrats appreciate you more than Republicans ever will. You're what I like to call a 60/40: 60% democrat, 40% Republican, but it could be 70/30 or 80/20, maybe even 90/10 or more. We'll discover more as time goes on.

Oh, and there's no racism over here. Just the truth.

 

[Mina]

Exactly my point. Telling starving people begging for bread to "just eat cake" isn't fixing anything.

Yes, the Republicans are against expanding healthcare but when faced with the frontal assault of banning guns they might be persuaded that some minor improvements for mental healthcare for K-12 is a preferable and popular option.

Once these programs are established for kids and the results seen by all, employers could be more easily convinced to use similar programs for their employees. The more popular a program, the more likely voters will push Congress to expand it.

A lot of psych screening can be done on computers. 30-60 minutes once or twice a year would be a good start.

Example: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/tests/health/mental-health-assessment
Mental Health Assessment
Depression
What Type of Smart Are You?
Extroversion
Attention Span Test
Type-A Personality
Memory Test
Anger Management Test
Assertiveness
Perfectionism Test

Could be a way to go. I'm not convinced it will help all that much with so many guns in the mix, but with gun control being practically impossible with the arch-conservatives on the high court effectively legislating against it from the bench, we have to look at other approaches.

Still, I get frustrated by the tendency to view this from the framework of school shootings, since they're so incredibly rare (e.g., the k-12 mental healthcare approach). It would be a bit like addressing transportation safety by trying to make commercial air travel even safer than it already is. Jumbo-jet crashes may be dramatic news-dominate events when they happen, but they happen infrequently enough that they're an almost negligible factor in overall transportation mortality. It's the safest way to get around, and making it still safer won't save many lives. Time and money thrown at that problem could save a lot more lives putting in guard rails, traffic lights, lane barriers, and the like.

Similarly, school shootings may be dramatic and dominate the news, but they are an infinitesimal part of our violent crime problem. Schools are one of the safest places kids spend time in, and making them even safer isn't going to make people much safer overall. I think a lot more children's lives could be saved focusing on, say, more social workers in order to identify at-risk children in troubled homes, to get them help before it's too late.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Could be a way to go. I'm not convinced it will help all that much with so many guns in the mix, but with gun control being practically impossible with the arch-conservatives on the high court effectively legislating against it from the bench, we have to look at other approaches.

Still, I get frustrated by the tendency to view this from the framework of school shootings, since they're so incredibly rare (e.g., the k-12 mental healthcare approach). It would be a bit like addressing transportation safety by trying to make commercial air travel even safer than it already is. Jumbo-jet crashes may be dramatic news-dominate events when they happen, but they happen infrequently enough that they're an almost negligible factor in overall transportation mortality. It's the safest way to get around, and making it still safer won't save many lives. Time and money thrown at that problem could save a lot more lives putting in guard rails, traffic lights, lane barriers, and the like.

Similarly, school shootings may be dramatic and dominate the news, but they are an infinitesimal part of our violent crime problem. Schools are one of the safest places kids spend time in, and making them even safer isn't going to make people much safer overall. I think a lot more children's lives could be saved focusing on, say, more social workers in order to identify at-risk children in troubled homes, to get them help before it's too late.

Mina, you're smart enough to know that anything can become a weapon. Why aren't you afraid that some nutjob will cross the centerline and impact you head on every time you drive? Is it a matter of denial or social trust?

The number of guns in the nation is what it is, but they aren't the problem. It's nutjobs and criminals accessing guns which are the problem just like carjackings are a problem caused by the same sort of people.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Look, it's OK to admit that you're a wasted vote. The democrats appreciate you more than Republicans ever will. You're what I like to call a 60/40: 60% democrat, 40% Republican, but it could be 70/30 or 80/20, maybe even 90/10 or more. We'll discover more as time goes on.

Oh, and there's no racism over here. Just the truth.

Aussies kiss the ass of a monarch...and here's the punch line, the monarch isn't even from their country.

Thanks for the proof you're a pussified bogan who needs a gang for support. LOL

 

[Granule]

Aussies kiss the ass of a monarch...and here's the punch line, the monarch isn't even from their country.

Aussies have great beaches, and that's pretty much it.

Why are you obsessing over monarchs? Do you want to crown Biden king?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Aussies have great beaches, and that's pretty much it.

Why are you obsessing over monarchs? Do you want to crown Biden king?

Because I find monarchist ass-kissers like you to be cowardly and pacified idiots. Bogans like yourself are the worst that Australia has to offer. Some of your women aren't bad, mostly the ones with American military fathers. LOL

Biden will be gone by 2025. So will the Pedophile Donald Trump.

 

[Mina]

Mina, you're smart enough to know that anything can become a weapon.

Yes, and you're smart enough to know there's a reason that people shell out thousands of dollars to buy an AR-15, rather than just picking up the nearest stone for free: the choice of weapons matters a great deal when it comes to your ability to kill people.

I think the two December 14, 2012 attacks on elementary schools are great illustrations of the concept. Two deranged young men, each armed, showed up at an elementary school first thing in the morning with mass murder of little kids as their goal. One attack left 28 dead. The other left zero. The difference was that one happened in a place where it's easy to get your hands on guns (and guns with high rates of fire), while the other occurred in a place where it isn't, so he went with a knife and failed to inflict a single mortal wound before being subdued.

The number of guns in the nation is what it is, but they aren't the problem.

They are definitely a huge part of the problem. Again, our non-firearm homicide rate is about three times what's normal in other advanced nations, but our total homicide rate is about nine times as high as theirs, suggesting 2/3 of the problem is the guns, with the rest coming down to things like a diseased culture, poor healthcare, etc. Conservatives insist that we ignore the lion's share of the issue and focus on the other stuff, but I don't think that's sensible.

 

[Into the Night]

Rule 18.

Trump loves dictatorial assholes like Putin and Kim because Trump is a wannabe dictator. I guess he's too old to rape little girls, so now he wants to be a dictator instead. Go figure.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3471426-is-trump-asking-putin-for-favors-again/
Is Trump asking Putin for favors again?
...On April 22, in a talk to the conservative Heritage Foundation at the Ritz-Carlton on Amelia Island, Fla., Mr. Trump bragged that during a NATO conference while he was in office, he threatened that he would not honor the NATO treaty’s Article V, the pledge that all signatories would defend any member attacked by Russia.

Think about the timing of dropping that memory bomb.

Was it an accident that Trump made the comments in a speech while Putin carries out his barbarous invasion of Ukraine? At such a moment, would any politician more concerned about Russia’s purposeful murder of civilians than his own future have boasted of a threat not to defend NATO countries?

I think Trump was sending a message to Putin — the 2022 version of his 2016 campaign invitation to hack Hillary Clinton’s email accounts: “Russia, if you are listening …”

Back then, the implied quid pro quo was that if Trump got the campaign help, he’d return the favor by cozying up to Putin’s strategic objectives, perhaps even reducing sanctions.

Now, just as in 2016, Trump is running again for president, and he wants help. Trump likely wouldn’t mind having some foreign assistance now against his rising GOP rivals, such as Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis. But he certainly knows he could use Putin’s help going forward, whether through hacking of Hunter Biden’s email accounts or a disinformation campaign that duplicates the one in 2016 that got 12 Russian military officers indicted.

Trump doesn't want to be a dictator. You are describing Pelosi and Biden.

 

[Into the Night]

Rule 18, subsection D. 100 ban points added.

Rule 14.

 

[Into the Night]

Until 2010, they had free rein to do so,

They never did.

limited only by their own constitutions.

They are also limited by their own constitutions.

But the arch-conservatives in 2010 invented a new rule that basically means federal judges have veto power over that traditional state prerogative.

Federal judges have no authority to change the Constitution nor any State constitution.

It contemplates an individual right in support of the goal of having well-regulated militias to defend the states.

You are AGAIN applying a conditional where none exists. Discard of the Constitution of the United States and the constitutions of the various States. You do not have authority to change the Constitution.

 

[Into the Night]

Abortion is an easy one: just let people decide what to do with their own uteruses.

The decision was already made. A baby is not a uterus.

That was more or less what the rule was when the federal government recognized a fundamental right,

Murder is not a fundamental right.

but now that the Republican operatives on the court appear to be punting the issue to the states, we'll get government stripping away basic human rights.

Murder is not a basic human right.

 

[Into the Night]

Sounds like fertile ground for emerging gang lords.

That it does.