Can you ACA supporters admit this wasn't even SUPPOSED to work?

Callinectes

Callinectes

Proud MAGA Semi-Facist
Look, I get it. You roll out something of this magnitude, there are bound to be some "glitches". If they want to, they'll get a handle on it(I don't think they want to, though). But can't you folks just admit that this piece of crap is supposed to be so despicable and unworkable that in 5 years, you'll all be begging for single payer? And your puppet masters in D.C. will be right there to tell you they gave it a shot, but nothing else will work. This is a wealth redistribution scheme, pure and simple.
 
callinectes said:
Look, I get it. You roll out something of this magnitude, there are bound to be some "glitches". If they want to, they'll get a handle on it(I don't think they want to, though). But can't you folks just admit that this piece of crap is supposed to be so despicable and unworkable that in 5 years, you'll all be begging for single payer? And your puppet masters in D.C. will be right there to tell you they gave it a shot, but nothing else will work. This is a wealth redistribution scheme, pure and simple.
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When it fails and it will fail, the left is going to say that we have to stick with it; because it will cost to much to dismantle it. :palm:
 
callinectes said:
Look, I get it. You roll out something of this magnitude, there are bound to be some "glitches". If they want to, they'll get a handle on it(I don't think they want to, though). But can't you folks just admit that this piece of crap is supposed to be so despicable and unworkable that in 5 years, you'll all be begging for single payer? And your puppet masters in D.C. will be right there to tell you they gave it a shot, but nothing else will work. This is a wealth redistribution scheme, pure and simple.
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Well, aside from the fact that in general the exchanges ARE working and people ARE getting insurance and it isn't a piece of crap -

I was already begging for single payer before the ACA got enacted.

ACA is better than what we had before, but I'd rather have single payer.

What I find highly ironic is that repubs - the supposed states' rights people - sat on their hands in so many states that the federal govt is now running the majority of exchanges. So yeah, it's one step closer to single payer.

Wish we had it all the way!
 
tekkychick said:
Well, aside from the fact that in general the exchanges ARE working and people ARE getting insurance and it isn't a piece of crap
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Except they aren't working and you don't know how many people are getting insurance (because Obama won't say) and it is a piece of crap....


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callinectes said:
Look, I get it. You roll out something of this magnitude, there are bound to be some "glitches". If they want to, they'll get a handle on it(I don't think they want to, though). But can't you folks just admit that this piece of crap is supposed to be so despicable and unworkable that in 5 years, you'll all be begging for single payer? And your puppet masters in D.C. will be right there to tell you they gave it a shot, but nothing else will work. This is a wealth redistribution scheme, pure and simple.
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Is that what's happening in Massachusetts?
 
kiki said:
Is that what's happening in Massachusetts?
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The Connector is working fine, unlike Obamacare sites.



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The Massachusetts health insurance exchange, called the Connector, was the brainchild of a Republican.



When the Connector opened for business in late 2006, people signed up. Within a year there were 367,000 newly insured citizens.



Glen Shor, who once ran the Connector and is now the state's secretary of administration and finance says "Enrollment was fast".



http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/10/01/227887992/lessons-for-the-obamacare-rollout-courtesy-of-massachusetts
 
Idiots. The problem with healthcare goes far far beyond insurance. Lets say someone comes along and waves a magic wand and gives everyone insurance. What happens then? Where are all the newly needed doctors, and nurses, and X_rat techs and on and on, where are they going to come from? Having insurance does not create supply, it creates demand, and Obamacare is going to artificially increase demand and thus costs. You partisan idiots on both sides want to align yourself with parties rather than ideas. The Republitards want to shut it down for the wrong reasons, and the Retardocrats want to defend it at all costs for the wrong reasons. Look at it logically you morons! Or is it great to have extremist factions, the evinces and the big money's, in other words the sheep, calling the shots for this country?
 
Beefy said:
Idiots. The problem with healthcare goes far far beyond insurance. Lets say someone comes along and waves a magic wand and gives everyone insurance. What happens then? Where are all the newly needed doctors, and nurses, and X_rat techs and on and on, where are they going to come from? Having insurance does not create supply, it creates demand, and Obamacare is going to artificially increase demand and thus costs. You partisan idiots on both sides want to align yourself with parties rather than ideas. The Republitards want to shut it down for the wrong reasons, and the Retardocrats want to defend it at all costs for the wrong reasons. Look at it logically you morons! Or is it great to have extremist factions, the evinces and the big money's, in other words the sheep, calling the shots for this country?
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And we look forward to you presenting your well-thought-out plan to get more people insured.
 
Big money said:
The Connector is working fine, unlike Obamacare sites.



romney-healthcare-2006_custom-c9bd0f5c1a1ed524882cbb03ccfabfc92325cd53-s40-c85.jpg




The Massachusetts health insurance exchange, called the Connector, was the brainchild of a Republican.



When the Connector opened for business in late 2006, people signed up. Within a year there were 367,000 newly insured citizens.



Glen Shor, who once ran the Connector and is now the state's secretary of administration and finance says "Enrollment was fast".



http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/10/01/227887992/lessons-for-the-obamacare-rollout-courtesy-of-massachusetts
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Good to hear since it is the model for the ACA.
The law mandates that nearly every resident of Massachusetts obtain a state-government-regulated minimum level of healthcare insurance coverage and provides free health care insurance for residents earning less than 150% of the federal poverty level (FPL).[3] The bill aimed to cover 95% of the state's 500,000 uninsured within a three-year period.[4] The law was amended significantly in 2008 and twice in 2010 and major revisions related to health care industry price controls were introduced in the Massachusetts legislature in May 2012 that passed in August 2012.
 
Down for the weekend:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-10-05-10-19-50

Oct 5, 11:44 AM EDT

Obama to public: Don't give up on health sign-ups

By JULIE PACE

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Defending the shaky rollout of his health care law, President Barack Obama said frustrated Americans "definitely shouldn't give up" on the problem-plagued program now at the heart of his dispute with Republicans over reopening the federal government.

Obama said public interest far exceeded the government's expectations, causing technology glitches that thwarted millions of Americans when trying to use government-run health care websites.

"Folks are working around the clock and have been systematically reducing the wait times," he said.

The federal gateway website was taken down for repairs over the weekend, again hindering people from signing up for insurance.

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Since the marketplaces opened to much fanfare Tuesday (Oct. 1), many of the state’s potential customers have been stalled on the website, unable to move past the portion of HealthCare.gov that instructs them how to set up their profile.

“It’s a situation that we are coping with,” said John Maginnis, vice president of corporate communications for Blue Cross Blue Shield of Louisiana, one of four companies offering products through the marketplace.

The company spent three years and $60 million preparing for Tuesday’s opening, so the lack of momentum seemed a bit of a letdown.

Sales agents were getting plenty of calls from people seeking information, Maginnis said, but the agency is not able to sell a policy to anyone without a functioning HealthCare.gov website.

“It was not as intense as we had anticipated,” he said.



http://hotair.com/archives/2013/10/02/total-number-of-enrollees-yesterday-in-louisianas-new-health-insurance-exchange-zero/
 
Big money said:
Have you noticed the libs don't even seem to try hiding their real goal: Socialized medicine?
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Has anyone noted that GOP nutters don't want sick and gravely ill people to have health care?
Congress and their staffers have the best insurance on the market and the government pays 72% of their premiums, as well as they have a tax write-off. Why are they living on government dole?
 
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