Can we stop pretending the the right is a bastion of "Christianity?"

[gfm7175]

I'm a universalist.

I just think if someone calls themselves Christian, they should at least TRY to live in a way that's consistent w/ Jesus' message.

Who says that such people aren't trying to do so, and how do you know??

We'll all fall short, of course,

Indeed. All people (who aren't Jesus Christ himself) have fallen short of the glory of God.

but there should be at minimum some effort.

See 1st response.

 

[gfm7175]

Yeah, mostly conservative Republicans.

Didn't even hit the broad side of the barn on that one.

 

[FastLane]

In 2022, 85 percent of Republicans claimed that they are Christians.

That is an overwhelming majority.

Although on this forum, it looks like almost none of them attend Sunday service regularly, and do not even make a minimal effort to emulate the example of Jesus.

PRRI Census of American Religion — 2022

The 2022 PRRI Census of American Religion provides unprecedented county-level data on religious identity and diversity in the United States.

www.prri.org

At least Christians know they are sinners. A huge part of the left are Christ deniers

 

[FastLane]

Yeah, mostly conservative Republicans.

So?

Mat 7:13
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Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
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Mat 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

 

[Yakuda]

Look at the results of these vicious, unfounded and racist lies about Haitians.

Would Jesus Christ EVER support that? Would he EVER defend that, as most of MAGA is right now?

Sure as soon as we stop pretending leftists are the bastion of democracy, tolerance and diversity. Stfu

 

[FastLane]

I'm a universalist.

I just think if someone calls themselves Christian, they should at least TRY to live in a way that's consistent w/ Jesus' message. We'll all fall short, of course, but there should be at minimum some effort.

You don't really know what the condition of anyone's heart is. So STOP judging

 

[Into the Night]

Look at the results of these vicious, unfounded and racist lies about Haitians.

Would Jesus Christ EVER support that? Would he EVER defend that, as most of MAGA is right now?

What unfounded and racist lies about Haitians, Barfly?????
I think someone is slipping you a mickey in your drink.

 

[Into the Night]

It looks as though most MAGA morons can be routinely found posting on this board Sunday mornings, rather than attending service or mass.

MAGA isn't a person, Sybil.

 

[Into the Night]

And now there's all the ugly comments about Pres. Biden's cancer diagnosis. They're about as Christ-like as as you are a Super Bowl-winning QB.

The ugly comments are from Democrats and yourself, Phanty.

 

[Into the Night]

I'm a universalist.

I just think if someone calls themselves Christian, they should at least TRY to live in a way that's consistent w/ Jesus' message. We'll all fall short, of course, but there should be at minimum some effort.

They do, Barfly. Since you have declared yourself to not be Christian, what do you care?

 

[Jarod]

Well, if they are lies it would be "Bearing False Witness"... However, the whole premise of the religion is that folks are not perfect, only one person was and he was also God. So, by that god's grace they'd be forgiven if it were a sin. Denying that grace is a bit non-Christian though...

There's also that uncomfortable bit about judging others only to be judged by your own rules... If we take that all the way out, almost no human will be judged by all that forgiveness as almost every human I have seen runs around telling folks that God would "never forgive" them for something. If such is the case, and because you judged others using that premise, you would be judged that way too...

Nobody will be going to Heaven, because everyone seems to ignore Grace...

So, its an excuse to sin?

 

[Into the Night]

Christian nationalism is bastard form of religion that perverts almost all the core concepts of the religion while trying to retain a connection to the name (Christian) because that allows them to deceive adherents.

The core concepts coming out out of Christian Nationalism would all be anathema to Jesus Christ teachings.

I guess you never heard of the Kingdom of God.

It promotes things like:

- embracing politics as core to their identity and seeking political power in Christs name and to use that political power to force others to their views

Well that proves it. You've never heard of the Kingdom of God.

- emphasis on division, xenophobia and intolerance with a focus on immigrants,

I have no problem with legal immigration, Kewpie. It's ILLEGAL immigration that's a problem. You are justifying breaking the law.

non Christians and different races and marginalized groups

If you want to worship a rock, that's your choice. It means you won't enjoy the blessings of Christianity, but you will enjoy all the blessings your Holy Rock gives you.

- pretense that only 'their group' are the true disciples of god and their religion instead of all people in all countries

Again, you haven't heard of the Kingdom of God.

- often preaches their version of the prosperity gospels applauding the hording of wealth by churches, officials, and subjects while trying to further disenfranchise the poor or displaced

The whole Earth belongs to God. Everything in it belongs to God. The wealthy, the poor...all belong to God. He is not a church. He is the Ultimate Official. He disenfranchises no one. It is people that choose to leave Him.

 

[Into the Night]

Yeah, mostly conservative Republicans.

You are not God, Sybil.

 

[Into the Night]

So, its an excuse to sin?

Go read it again, Pretender.

 

[Cypress]

So, its an excuse to sin?

No, even though faux Christian right-wingers like to believe they have carte blanche to sin all they want.

A key tenet of the Protestant reformation is that if your faith in Christ is actually genuine, that has ethical consequences because you will improve morally, even if perfection is not attainable.

Anyone who did not experience moral improvement after putting their faith in Christ means their faith is not actually genuine.

 

[Cypress]

At least Christians know they are sinners.

I've never seen a right-wing so-called Christian on this forum ever self-reflect on any transgressions they committed on this board.

 

[Nomad]

Can we stop pretending the the right is a bastion of "Christianity?"

Look at the results of these vicious, unfounded and racist lies about Haitians.

Would Jesus Christ EVER support that? Would he EVER defend that, as most of MAGA is right now?

"We"?

They themselves have been increasingly giving up on that false pretense every year since 2016.

The only ones who are still pretending to be Christians are the ones who were Bible thumping zealots before trump came along and caused them to out themselves for what they really are....

Bigoted, hate-mongering shit stains.

 

[christiefan915]

You don't really know what the condition of anyone's heart is. So STOP judging

Y O U just said "A huge part of the left are Christ deniers."

Fake physician, heal thyself.

 

[Callinectes]

Although on this forum, it looks like almost none of them attend Sunday service regularly,

Do you understand the fundamentals of Christianity?

and do not even make a minimal effort to emulate the example of Jesus.

It's very difficult to emulate Jesus as he was perfect. What I can do is to pray for him to reveal his will for me. Part of his will for me is to spread the word about HIM, and basically to make HIM the center of my life. So here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna ask that you read the gospels (the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John). Pray first for the wisdom to understand what you read.

You don't have to read it all at once, just little chunks, and you don't have to do it every day (although you might find yourself wanting to).

 

[Damocles]

So, its an excuse to sin?

It seems more a reason to discuss the judgment of others.

One might worry about their souls if they believed that Matthew 7 counted.