Can Ted Cruz to the White House in 2016?

[Taft2016]

:0) I love the smell of rotting Teabaggers in the morning. Smells like victory.

But feel free to come again anytime. :0)

And in between it all, the question remains unanswered. Curious.

I could find a multitude of leftist links from 2012 condemning Obama for an array of issues, from not ending the war, to not going far enough on health care reform, to (gasp!) even being the "same as Bush!" By your own criteria you laid out, that would have made Obama "a joke."

Yet none of that commentary portended a lack of support from his own party in the election. He won.

I'll let you in on a little secret that they hide in places like newspapers and books: there's a schism in the GOP between the conservative base and the establishment Republicans. Not unlike the resistance Obama experienced within his own party.

I'd be interested if you could find one (one!) conservative on this forum who thinks Cruz "is a joke."

The problem conservatives like Cruz and others experience is that the establishment's roughly 30% support level in the party is solid. The 70% conservative base gets divided among 4 or 5 candidates, and the establishment choice always squeaks through the gap. That's the issue in a nutshell.

But we digress; I asked why Cruz "is a joke." You told me because the GOP establishment doesn't support him. That's the same group that rallied behind Dole, McCain, and Romney. That group is "the joke". Cruz is not speaking to the 30% of wishy washy Republicans, he speaking to the 70% of informed, activist conservatives.

And his message is resonating.

If your argument is that he can't win because some leftist blog sites say he doesn't have GOP support, then the same anti-Obama sentiment within his own party would have foretold his defeat his 2012. But it didn't.

So the little lab rat ran into a maze wall and is raising it's stubby little arms in a victory gesture. Pathetic. Here's your food pellet.

 

[Big Money]

"Cruz doesn't care about being popular." Yeah because it isn't like presidential elections in America are popularity contests or anything. And someone who looks and acts like Joe McCarthy might be just what the country needs. And no one does that better than Ted Cruz, the Cuban immigrant from Canada. Or something.

Birther?

 

[Big Money]

Since Cruz was born in Canada, he cannot be elected president.

But according to Desh, Republicans aren't "elected", so it's all good.

Remind me, was John McCain eligible to be the GOP candidate in 2008 even though he was born outside the USA?

 

[Jarod]

Democrats don't like him because his jabs sting and he won't back down.


Cruz doesn't seem to be losing any sleep.


The more he gets attacked, the stronger he'll become, and the more determined.


Before entering the Senate, he argued for a living and was good enough at it to make a handsome living while building a reputation as one of the best constitutional lawyers.


Harvard Law School Alan Dershowitz, no conservative, told the Washington Post that Cruz was "off-the-charts brilliant."



Cruz has been named by American Lawyer magazine as one of the 50 Best Litigators under 45 in America in the country. In his 30s, he argued nine cases before the Supreme Court and won.


Whenever he is challenged, his energy level goes up, his backbone stiffens, and his wits sharpen. From that point, it's game on.


Cruz doesn't care about being popular or part of the in-crowd. He's comfortable with conflict.


He can't be intimidated or scared off. He doesn't care if other senators isolate him, ignore him or attack him. He doesn't care if they let him into their club. So they have no power over him.


As unpopular as he is within the Beltway, he is keenly aware that in the heartland and across the country his stance in defiance of Obamacare, and his willingness to rock the political boat, have transformed him into a rock star.







http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/09/opinion/navarrette-cruz-obamacare/

If GWB can do it, Cruz can.

 

[Jarod]

What I love about the Tea Bagger love for Cruz is that he actually WAS born in a foreign country, they were all over Obama because they falsely thought he might have been born in a foreign country, but they love Cruz for president even though he WAS born in a foreign country.

 

[Big Money]

What I love about the Tea Bagger love for Cruz is that he actually WAS born in a foreign country, they were all over Obama because they falsely thought he might have been born in a foreign country, but they love Cruz for president even though he WAS born in a foreign country.

I thought they were all over Obama because they're racists...isn't that the meme?

 

[Taft2016]

What I love about the Tea Bagger love for Cruz is that he actually WAS born in a foreign country, they were all over Obama because they falsely thought he might have been born in a foreign country, but they love Cruz for president even though he WAS born in a foreign country.

All these years later, you still don't get it. You don't have to be born in the USA to be a "natural born citizen."

If my parents were vacationing in Paris when I was born, that wouldn't disqualify me.

Willful ignorance. Ain't no arguin' with it.

 

[Jarod]

All these years later, you still don't get it. You don't have to be born in the USA to be a "natural born citizen."

If my parents were vacationing in Paris when I was born, that wouldn't disqualify me.

Willful ignorance. Ain't no arguin' with it.

So, why all the fuss about the allegation Obama was not born in the United States?

 

[blackascoal]

And in between it all, the question remains unanswered. Curious.

:0) It's only 'curious' to you .. because you can't keep up.

The answer to your question is NO. I thought I made that very clear. In fact, it's Hell no. You're comparing academic careers as if that's the litmus test for presidential qualifications. It isn't. It's just a resume. Did you somehow forget about ELECTIONS? Cruz could never be ELECTED to be the president, thus he is not more QUALIFIED to be the president than Obama who IS the president.

I said to you when you first posted to me in this thread that perhaps you should just run away. My point to you was that you are not a smart person. NO, you're not. Dumb people should not pick on me .. and you sir, are dumb.

I could find a multitude of leftist links from 2012 condemning Obama for an array of issues, from not ending the war, to not going far enough on health care reform, to (gasp!) even being the "same as Bush!" By your own criteria you laid out, that would have made Obama "a joke."

Yet none of that commentary portended a lack of support from his own party in the election. He won.

:0) Just too damn easy.

Do you actually think? ZWYY65213 .. type those numbers back to me so I'll know you're not spam. :0) You think like spam dude. Because leftist like me .. who is not a democrat .. are critical of Obama .. you think that makes his election analogous to Cruz being opposed/despised by REPUBLICANS? Can you demonstrate large sections of the Democratic Party that despised Obama before or after he was elected either time. You think like a chunk of spam. No offense to Hormel intended.

Yo' Gomer .. you won't find one leftist on this board that 'condemns' Obama more than I do. Maybe you should wake up.

I'll let you in on a little secret that they hide in places like newspapers and books: there's a schism in the GOP between the conservative base and the establishment Republicans. Not unlike the resistance Obama experienced within his own party.

It's taken me about 10 minutes to stop laughing so I can respond to this. :0).. wait .. .. too funny.

Guess what they hide in places like message boards? That I know that issue better than you do and have talked about it on this board many times. Where is the secret?

And no, Hell no .. it is nothing like what Obama experienced .. who was showered with adulation, praise .. and a whole lot of money

I'd be interested if you could find one (one!) conservative on this forum who thinks Cruz "is a joke."

The problem conservatives like Cruz and others experience is that the establishment's roughly 30% support level in the party is solid. The 70% conservative base gets divided among 4 or 5 candidates, and the establishment choice always squeaks through the gap. That's the issue in a nutshell.

But we digress; I asked why Cruz "is a joke." You told me because the GOP establishment doesn't support him. That's the same group that rallied behind Dole, McCain, and Romney. That group is "the joke". Cruz is not speaking to the 30% of wishy washy Republicans, he speaking to the 70% of informed, activist conservatives.

And his message is resonating.

Completely disconnected from any sense of reality. Romney was just the last man standing after every teabagger had their chance in the limelight and wilted. Every last one of them. Do democrats a favor and send them another one.

If your argument is that he can't win because some leftist blog sites say he doesn't have GOP support, then the same anti-Obama sentiment within his own party would have foretold his defeat his 2012. But it didn't.

So the little lab rat ran into a maze wall and is raising it's stubby little arms in a victory gesture. Pathetic. Here's your food pellet.

My argument is that you are not a smart person dude. Demonstrate that Obama faced the same opposition within his own party as Cruz is getting from republicans?

There's that nasty word again .. 'demonstrate' .. 'evidence' .. you have neither. All you have is radiospeak.

Maybe you should just run away. :0)

 

[blackascoal]

I thought they were all over Obama because they're racists...isn't that the meme?

That is the truth .. where he was born was just a broken vehicle trying to get to the truth of their racism.

 

[Taft2016]

The answer to your question is NO. I thought I made that very clear. In fact, it's Hell no. You're comparing academic careers as if that's the litmus test for presidential qualifications.

Wrong, I'm comparing their professional careers as lawyers. We can compare their senatorial careers as well if you want.

Did you somehow forget about ELECTIONS? Cruz could never be ELECTED to be the president, thus he is not more QUALIFIED to be the president than Obama who IS the president.

You're confusing "electability" with "qualified." The words are not interchangeable.

I said to you when you first posted to me in this thread that perhaps you should just run away. My point to you was that you are not a smart person. NO, you're not. Dumb people should not pick on me .. and you sir, are dumb.

Oh, yes, of course. Just like you demonstrated that Cruz "is a joke".

BTW: How are you coming along at finding a single conservative on this forum who thinks Cruz "is a joke"?

GTFOH.

 

[Liberty]

:0) I love the smell of rotting Teabaggers in the morning. Smells like victory.

Let me help your dumb ass out with Ted Cruz's 'qualifications'

Why Senate Republicans Hate Ted Cruz
There’s more than one reason they despise the junior senator from Texas.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...icans_a_list_of_the_reasons_gop_senators.html

Meet Ted Cruz, the most hated man in the U.S. Senate
http://blog.syracuse.com/opinion/2013/04/meet_ted_cruz_the_most_hated_m.html

David Brooks: GOP leadership will have to show Ted Cruz ‘who’s boss’
http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/21/d...ave-to-show-ted-cruz-whos-boss/#ixzz2hK37K49n

Fox News Turns on Ted Cruz and Destroys His Plan To Defund Obamacare
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/09/22/fox-news-turns-ted-cruz-destroys-plan-defund-obamacare.html

That assclown isn't even liked among his own party. :0)

Now let's compare those qualifications with Obama's ..

2008 - Obama Elected President as Racial Barrier Falls
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/05/us/politics/05elect.html?pagewanted=all

Election 2012: Obama re-elected to second term
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...erica-decides-long-campaign-article-1.1197585

See how utterly ignorant you are you dumb motherfucker?

To be qualified to be the president you have to have some degree of popularity across the country. Resumes don't elect presidents.

I asked your dumbness to show me the data that suggests that Cruz could ever be the president .. and you ran for his resume.

My God man, grow a fucking brain .. :0) or not. Not sure a brain could actually work in that cavernous wasteland sitting on top of your neck.

But feel free to come again anytime. :0)

Ted Cruz is a leader. He's leading.

And all this wouldn't be going on right now if it were not for Cruz and Lee.

If the reps get a deal to just delay the mandate,,,, Cruz is going to get so much positive love that he'll be on his way to becoming the leader we really need in 2016.

 

[blackascoal]

Ted Cruz is a leader. He's leading.

And all this wouldn't be going on right now if it were not for Cruz and Lee.

If the reps get a deal to just delay the mandate,,,, Cruz is going to get so much positive love that he'll be on his way to becoming the leader we really need in 2016.

:0) Newt Gingrich was a 'leader' at one time too. Led the Republican Party right into the toilet .. resigned in disgrace.

'Leadership'

 

[Liberty]

:0) Newt Gingrich was a 'leader' at one time too. Led the Republican Party right into the toilet .. resigned in disgrace.

'Leadership'

I never liked Newt, and he's nothing like Cruz.

 

[Taft2016]

So, why all the fuss about the allegation Obama was not born in the United States?

OK, so what was all the fuss about getting everyone health insurance? Everyone's not getting it.

Or 30,000,000 illegal aliens using hospital emergency rooms as the primary medical care? Not resolved.

Just because the media repeatedly throws something in your face doesn't mean it is really the issue now, does it?

The issue was that Obama was not born to citizen parent(s), plural, which was a sticking point the Supreme Court mentioned on the subject in the past, but never resolved.

Can a natural born citizen now be someone who was born to only one citizen parent? That has now been resolved. The answer is "yes."

 

[blackascoal]

Wrong, I'm comparing their professional careers as lawyers. We can compare their senatorial careers as well if you want.

The ability to garner the millions of votes necessary to win a national election is a qualification to be the president .. and Cruz does not have that qualification .. thus he is not more qualified than the guy who has done it twice.

You're confusing "electability" with "qualified." The words are not interchangeable.

You're confusing a resume with the ability to become the president.

Oh, yes, of course. Just like you demonstrated that Cruz "is a joke".

Cruz 'TEDtalk' sparks Twitter jokes
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/ted-cruz-tedtalk-sparks-twitter-jokes-97285.html

Ted Cruz Reads ‘Green Eggs and Ham’ on Senate Floor
http://swampland.time.com/2013/09/2...r-and-thats-not-the-weird-part/#ixzz2hL8AexCW

BTW: How are you coming along at finding a single conservative on this forum who thinks Cruz "is a joke"?

Man you're stupid.

How are you coming with producing any evidence that your mindless rants are anything but mindless? :0)

How are you coming with the EVIDENCE that Cruz could ever be the president?

You should just go away. :0)

 

[blackascoal]

I never liked Newt, and he's nothing like Cruz.

They both have one thing in common .. neither will ever be the president .. which is kinda' the point of this thread.

 

[Taft2016]

The ability to garner the millions of votes necessary to win a national election is a qualification to be the president .. and Cruz does not have that qualification .. thus he is not more qualified than the guy who has done it twice.

So you're bailing out on the argument that I was comparing their academic careers?

Duly noted. Win for me.

 

[Big Money]

They both have one thing in common .. neither will ever be the president .. which is kinda' the point of this thread.

Has Cruz said he wants to be president, my good Brother?

 

[monty1]

Cruz has just finished burning that bridge. Not a chance. He would be supported by what remains of the teabagger party at that time but will be resisted by big money and the R's so much that he won't even get a start.

What a ridiculous idea to think he could!