California’s economic situation!

You have to be kidding.

But that's exactly what you did. Why did you do it? How come you jumped to a non-sequitur about Quebec's temperature when it was pointed out to you that Texas' unemployment rate is also above the national average?
 
But that's exactly what you did. Why did you do it? How come you jumped to a non-sequitur about Quebec's temperature when it was pointed out to you that Texas' unemployment rate is also above the national average?

Try to find the irony.
 
Try to find the irony.

No irony here, just you jumping to a non-sequitur when your argument about CA in the context of its unemployment rate was undercut by the fact that Texas also has a higher unemployment rate than the rest of the country. I want to know why you did what you did?
 
Yet the unemployment rate nationwide is at 3.8%. Which suggests CA is lagging. CA doesn't have a higher 'standard' of living. It has a higher COST of living. There is a difference.

Not at all. CA is near full-employment and given where they were 8 years ago, with an unemployment rate around 12%, 4.3% is remarkable. Thanks, Obama.

Which completely ignores what I stated. CA IS lagging the nation. The national unemployment rate is 3.8%. you stated it was 4.3% in CA. That means they are LAGGING the national average.

Then so is Texas. Their unemployment rate is 4.0%, which is higher than the national average.

Tell me again about non sequiturs
 
https://ballotpedia.org/Party_control_of_California_state_government]

yes... you should actually try it.

California Party Control: 1992-2017
12 years of Democratic trifectas • No Republican trifectas

Should be noted that 5 of those 12 years are 2013-2017. And now CA has a super-majority of Democrats and has had that since 2013. It's no coincidence that as they gained super-majority control, the state's fortunes have turned around.

Again. You completely miss the point of the post. Are you that intellectually dishonest that you continue doing so? or are you an idiot?

Her claim was that Republicans controlled the Senate and House in CA under Arnold. That is blatantly false.

Kudos to you for recognizing that some of the years in the band quoted are actually in the band quoted. I had no idea that 2013-1017 would fall under the range of 1992-2017. You are amazing for recognizing that.

Republicans did not control the legislature, but they did control the power to stop legislation from moving forward. Maybe that's what they meant? I don't know, I'm not in their head.




It just proves that since gaining full, super-majority control, Democrats have turned CA into one of the best performing states. Since gaining super-majority of Democrats, CA's GDP growth has outpaced the country's.

another example
 
No irony here, just you jumping to a non-sequitur when your argument about CA in the context of its unemployment rate was undercut by the fact that Texas also has a higher unemployment rate than the rest of the country. I want to know why you did what you did?

LMAO
 
The pension "issues" came because Investment Funds lied to pension managers during the 2000's, and then when the market crashed, the Investment Funds got to recoup their losses, but not the pension funds. The pension funds were based on lies from Investment Funds. So why should teachers and public workers bear the consequence of bad faith actions by the Investment Funds.
Once again, the government has to put their big boy pants on and deal with reality. When the same thing happened here(although I don't know if anyone was "lying", I do know the economy was in the crapper)the governor said "strap in folks, it's gonna be a rough ride for everybody for a while", and he took matters in hand and 3 years later, we're okay. Folks been lying to people in California for a LOOOOOOONG time, evidently. At some point you have to start wondering if they're being taken advantage of, or if the government is too stupid to be entrusted with resposibility

Why shouldn't punitive measures be taken against the Investment Funds that created these problems?
Why indeed, as long as they violated a law, or an actionable violation of the deal between the investments funds and the government. Investments are a crap shoot anyway
 
another example

No non-sequiturs there. It's not a non-sequitur to point out that of the 12 years when Dems had full control, 5 of those 12 years are 2013-present, which coincides with California's great growth.

It doesn't seem like you really get language.
 
Once again, the government has to put their big boy pants on and deal with reality.

The reality is that Investment Funds lied about their product in order to attract pension fund business. Because of that, you want to punish the pensioners and not the Investment Funds. Shows where your allegiance is.
 
When the same thing happened here(although I don't know if anyone was "lying", I do know the economy was in the crapper)

When the pension funds were investing in what the Investment Funds were peddling in the 2000's, the economy was not in recession. The economy cratered because those markets in which pension funds were investing collapsed. They collapsed because they were bullshit to begin with, and the Investment Funds knew that. They chose to lie about the risk of the products to which they were luring pension funds. They were acting in bad faith. You seem to think that's all fine. That's where we diverge.
 
I do know the economy was in the crapper)the governor said "strap in folks, it's gonna be a rough ride for everybody for a while",

But it wasn't a rough ride for everybody. Investment Funds emerged unscathed and fully re-capitalized after the recession hit, whereas pension funds did not recoup what they lost. So no, not everyone was in the same boat. What I don't understand is why you think pensioners should have to sacrifice because their managers were deceived by Investment Funds acting in bad faith. Shouldn't you be taking punitive action against the Investment Funds, since they're the ones who lured the pension funds to their product using fake ratings and concealed risk?
 
Folks been lying to people in California for a LOOOOOOONG time, evidently. At some point you have to start wondering if they're being taken advantage of, or if the government is too stupid to be entrusted with resposibility

You are blaming victims for being deceived by bad faith actors.

I bet you think women are to blame for being raped, too.
 
Nothing I wrote is a non-sequitur. We are talking about CA's unemployment rate and economy within the same context.

The non-sequitur was you bringing up Quebec's weather.

Wrong again moron. The non-sequitur was when she and I were talking about who controlled the two houses and you in turn pointed out that you were able to discern that some of the years in the range were indeed in the range and that the economy was supposedly better with super majorities. Which had NOTHING to do with WHO CONTROLLED THE CA Senate and House. NOTHING. which is a non-sequitur

non se·qui·tur
ˌnän ˈsekwədər/Submit
noun
a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.
 
No non-sequiturs there. It's not a non-sequitur to point out that of the 12 years when Dems had full control, 5 of those 12 years are 2013-present, which coincides with California's great growth.

It doesn't seem like you really get language.

Yes, it is. When discussing WHO controlled the CA Senate and House under Arnold. The above is indeed a non-sequitur you moron.

Perhaps you shouldn't use words if you don't comprehend their meaning?

non se·qui·tur
ˌnän ˈsekwədər/Submit
noun
a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.
 
and again... when I stated that CA was lagging because its unemployment rate is higher than the US average and you stated 'no its not, because it had a higher unemployment rate 8 years ago and is doing much better now' ... that too is a non-sequitur. Your statement is not logical. It also completely fails to address the point I made.

Your 'but TX is higher than average too' was yet ANOTHER non-sequitur. For it too had NOTHING to do with my point.
 
Clown show. As a liberal he's internalized California's success as liberal success and as such can't acknowledge the basic realities and issues of our state. Extreme partisanship is bad for the brain

It is truly ironic his pretending that I was the one using non-sequiturs, when the only one I used was to done to highlight his non stop use of them.
 
At some point you have to start wondering if they're being taken advantage of, or if the government is too stupid to be entrusted with resposibility

So the government should have known better than to trust what Wall Street Investment Funds were telling them?

Well if you can't trust Wall Street, who can you trust?
 
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