California shouldn't cast stones at AZ...

[USFREEDOM911]

It's the same emotionalist hypocrisy which has literally come to define the liberal Democrat party. Nothing is about principle or rationality anymore, it's all knee-jerk feelings and emotion. If something (anything) can be distorted and put in the perspective of a minority being a victim, that is how it's played, and it doesn't matter what common sense or rational justifications are made, the entire perception and premise is based on the emotional bleats that it's "unfair" to some group, and it's the fault of racist republicans!

I don't doubt that CA does have a law on the books similar to AZ, it doesn't surprise me one bit. But here, I give an example of another law in California which is, in my opinion, much more intrusive on civil rights of known citizens who haven't violated any law. It's just utterly amazing these people have the audacity to call for boycotts on AZ! It's all because liberals have learned how to whip people into a frenzy by playing the race card, outright lying and distorting facts, and making the "right wing" the boogie-man!

They're still proclaiming AZ 1070 as a "Racist Law"; but when pressed to point out the racism, they all of a sudden have the "deer-in-the-headlights" look.
What's even more amazing is how many stupid people want to believe that this is about race and I think it's because they have nothing else in their pathetic little lives, so they have to live a lie just so they can feel alive.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

They're still proclaiming AZ 1070 as a "Racist Law"; but when pressed to point out the racism, they all of a sudden have the "deer-in-the-headlights" look.
What's even more amazing is how many stupid people want to believe that this is about race and I think it's because they have nothing else in their pathetic little lives, so they have to live a lie just so they can feel alive.

I know, the California BOE is instructing teachers to teach the kids the AZ law is akin to Jim Crow! O'Rielly had some pinhead woman on his show last night, explaining how they could do this, and he had to literally interrupt her four times during the interview, as she began her point by saying... Arizona passed a law that "we" have a problem with... He reminded her all 4 times, that 65% of the people AGREE with the law, and DON'T have a problem with it! He finally asked her about this "we" she kept citing... Do you have a mouse in your pocket? LOL

 

[SmarterthanYou]

What's your solution for curbing gang activity?

so you approve of 'certain' profiling? do you also approve violating the constitutional rights of all americans to arrest and prosecute a few?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

If you call yourself out for hypocrisy, you're being too hard on yourself. Surely even the Libertarian party doesn't think offenders and law-abiding citizens deserve equal treatment.

'equal protection under the law', that sound familiar to you?

 

[christiefan915]

Can't the argument be made that kids not being allowed to associate with their neighbors is completely wrong? (Again, based on these kids actions I agree with the ruling that they should be kept apart but it just seems if you really really support civil liberties you would not be for this)

You lost me. The kid in question wasn't forbidden to see his girlfriend; he was just out past curfew. I think the cop acted rashly. As I said before, he could have given the kid a warning and sent him on his way.

In every neighborhood I've lived in since childhood there have been curfews (usually 10PM-6AM) for kids under the age of 18 out without an adult, and these were just regular places, not gang-infested properties under injunctions. This is for the safety of minors. The people who protested were teenagers who wanted to roam the streets after hours, not adults. I was one of them. If my friends and I were hanging out at 10:30PM on a summer night, the local cop would drive by and tell us to go inside... and we'd do it. I think it's a stretch to say our civil rights were being violated because of local ordinances.

If the Mar Vista hadn't been a free-for-all zone for illegal activities, there wouldn't have been an injunction. Law-abiding citizens shouldn't be held hostage because of offenders. The injunction was for the common good.

I'm having a hard time understanding your comments about civil liberties. Let's take a law on public drunkenness. Where I live someone who's staggering around the streets and bothering pedestrians can be picked up and taken to the local jail. Does that mean his civil liberties are being violated? What about my right to walk on the street without being harassed by a drunk?

 

[christiefan915]

so you approve of 'certain' profiling? do you also approve violating the constitutional rights of all americans to arrest and prosecute a few?

I already said I thought the cop in this case acted rashly. But regarding my question, how do you propose gang activity should be curbed?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I already said I thought the cop in this case acted rashly. But regarding my question, how do you propose gang activity should be curbed?

you won't like my one sure way to do it.

let law abiding people arm themselves, then lets see the gang members worry about being shot by their decent neighbors.

 

[Canceled.LTroll.19]

These challenges and responsibilities demand strong leadership, and that is why I was pleased to unveil a proposal entitled Real Security: a national security plan that will take our country in a new direction, one that is both tough and smart.

Each member of Congress has an obligation to uphold and defend the Constitution and our nation. This is a responsibility I take very seriously, and I have been doing everything I can to strengthen our country’s security.

Our local police, firefighters, and those who serve in the National Guard are the front lines in our fight for real security. First-responders are critical to our national security, and I have always been a strong supporter of funding for local law enforcement.

I have been working hard to ensure that our courthouses are protected and shootings, such as the one that injured Judge Chuck Weller in Reno last year, do not take place again. In December 2007, the Senate passed The Court Security Improvement Act which authorizes $45 million in grants for court security improvements and new equipment for security personnel. This bill also enhances criminal penalties for assaulting public officials, prosecutors, and witnesses, and increases protection for judges and their families against the malicious publication of their personal information by those who intend them harm. In order to preserve the freedom and integrity of our judiciary, court personnel must be protected from attacks and reprisals.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Harry, you old geezer, you know damned well that 'we the people' are always the first responders.

when seconds count, the police are minutes away.

 

[Canceled.LTroll.19]

Gang violence is a serious problem affecting communities across the nation. The recent rash of shooting near Nevada schools forcefully reminded us that we are not immune from this problem. I have consistently supported legislation to increase the penalties for gang-related crimes. For example, in September 2007 the Senate passed the Gang Abatement and Prevention Act (S.456). This bill provides police and prosecutors with the tools they need to clamp down on criminal street gangs, and provides the Department of Justice with grants to study more efficient ways to combat youth crime.

I also supported the Omnibus Crime Bill of 1993 that made membership in a criminal street gang a federal crime and that provided block grants to help states and localities fight criminal street gangs, and I have worked to provide funds for several anti-gang programs such as the Gang Resistance Education and Training Act (GREAT), The Restitution Earned Accountability (REAL) program, and the Richard Steele Youth Boxing Club. These programs provide much needed counseling and education for at risk youth.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I already said I thought the cop in this case acted rashly. But regarding my question, how do you propose gang activity should be curbed?

I think they should pass a law that it's okay for the gangs to throw "pepples" at the police.....(just trying to find a common focal point between two current threads).......

 

[Canceled.LTroll.19]

I worked hard to pass the Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act, which exempts qualified current and former law enforcement officers from state laws prohibiting the carrying of concealed handguns across state lines. This law ensures that officers who undergo the rigorous training to carry concealed weapons will have their experience recognized in every state. It makes our communities safer by allowing law enforcement officers to effectively fight crime wherever they go, and it protects officers from criminals who carry a grudge.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I worked hard to pass the Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act, which exempts qualified current and former law enforcement officers from state laws prohibiting the carrying of concealed handguns across state lines. This law ensures that officers who undergo the rigorous training to carry concealed weapons will have their experience recognized in every state. It makes our communities safer by allowing law enforcement officers to effectively fight crime wherever they go, and it protects officers from criminals who carry a grudge.

in other words, you created a law to make the sovereign american citizen a second class person, not equal to a police officer.