California Screaming

Southern Man said:
This table doesn't tell the whole story, and in fact is misleading.

Per capita, California is 10th and NY is 11th. But this is only the State taxes. Since I lived in NY, I can tell you that the local property taxes are outrageous\: 3 to 4 times what I pay in NC.

NH is 48th, but their property taxes are extremely high. That's why so many folks live in trailers up there.
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They probably have a state property tax though, right? They don't have an income or sales tax (unlike the states around them), so they need some way to keep revenue from being literally $0.

I think local taxes would be a small part of the pie, and they should probably track the rates for the state anyway (since the towns and cities in a liberal state are also likely to be liberal, and vice versa for conservative).

What could throw it off, though, are the states that have caps on local property taxes and so need to pay for a greater percent of education than average through the state income and sales taxes (like Washington and California).
 
froggie said:
Seems like the states who have higher taxes are doing better than you guys and they have Democratic legislators!!!!
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how do you define "doing better"?.....California and New York are deep in the red, so is Michigan....all three have Democratic leaders and all three in the top ten for taxes?.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
how do you define "doing better"?.....California and New York are deep in the red, so is Michigan....all three have Democratic leaders and all three in the top ten for taxes?.....
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Cherry picking.

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According to this graph, the state with the highest tax rate (almost twice that of Texas) has the fifth lowest unemployment in the land. And the block nature of the graph clearly highlights the fact that there's no correlation.

If there were any correlation to be drawn, it would be that middle rate taxes lead to high unemployment. Since this makes no sense I think it's safe to assume that the tax rate has little effect on their economy.
 
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froggie said:
Rank State Amount

United States….. 650,629,485 United States….. 2,199.11

1 California….. 98,434,685 1 Vermont….. 3,600.16
2 New York….. 51,326,444 2 Hawaii….. 3,477.93
3 Florida….. 33,894,971 3 Wyoming….. 3,417.77
4 Texas….. 32,784,942 4 Connecticut….. 3,300.49
5 Pennsylvania….. 27,262,969 5 Minnesota….. 3,093.93

6 Illinois….. 26,411,689 6 Delaware….. 3,068.98
7 New Jersey….. 24,247,648 7 Massachusetts….. 2,818.39
8 Ohio….. 24,011,238 8 Alaska….. 2,798.66
9 Michigan….. 23,525,187 9 New Jersey….. 2,781.33
10 North Carolina….. 18,639,618 10 California….. 2,724.31

11 Massachusetts….. 18,034,862 11 New York….. 2,665.62
12 Virginia….. 15,918,847 12 Rhode Island….. 2,443.07
13 Minnesota….. 15,881,131 13 Maine….. 2,432.35
14 Georgia….. 15,665,563 14 Maryland….. 2,386.95
15 Washington….. 14,839,634 15 Wisconsin….. 2,375.77

16 Maryland….. 13,366,914 16 West Virginia….. 2,367.17
17 Wisconsin….. 13,152,251 17 Washington….. 2,359.99
18 Indiana….. 12,853,976 18 Arkansas….. 2,352.90
19 Connecticut….. 11,584,728 19 Nevada….. 2,347.90
20 Arizona….. 11,008,428 20 Michigan….. 2,324.39

21 Tennessee….. 10,007,292 21 New Mexico….. 2,322.78
22 Missouri….. 9,543,814 22 North Dakota….. 2,202.97
23 Kentucky….. 9,090,882 23 Pennsylvania….. 2,193.32
24 Louisiana….. 8,638,674 24 Kentucky….. 2,178.50
25 Alabama….. 7,774,147 25 Nebraska….. 2,158.36

26 Colorado….. 7,648,456 26 North Carolina….. 2,146.68
27 South Carolina….. 7,318,388 27 Virginia….. 2,103.72
28 Oklahoma….. 6,859,030 28 Ohio….. 2,094.49
29 Arkansas….. 6,538,720 29 Illinois….. 2,069.40
30 Oregon….. 6,522,665 30 Kansas….. 2,053.85

31 Iowa….. 5,778,350 31 Idaho….. 2,053.51
32 Nevada….. 5,670,169 32 Indiana….. 2,049.42
33 Kansas….. 5,637,807 33 Montana….. 2,003.79
34 Mississippi….. 5,432,152 34 Iowa….. 1,948.20
35 Utah….. 4,703,330 35 Oklahoma….. 1,933.21

36 New Mexico….. 4,478,321 36 Louisiana….. 1,909.52
37 Hawaii….. 4,434,356 37 Florida….. 1,905.28
38 West Virginia….. 4,301,156 38 Utah….. 1,904.18
39 Nebraska….. 3,796,551 39 Mississippi….. 1,859.69
40 Maine….. 3,215,570 40 Arizona….. 1,853.58

41 Idaho….. 2,934,459 41 Oregon….. 1,791.45
42 Rhode Island….. 2,628,747 42 Georgia….. 1,726.61
43 Delaware….. 2,590,217 43 South Carolina….. 1,719.95
44 Vermont….. 2,242,902 44 Alabama….. 1,705.60
45 New Hampshire….. 2,010,775 45 Tennessee….. 1,678.23

46 Montana….. 1,875,545 46 Missouri….. 1,645.49
47 Alaska….. 1,858,311 47 Colorado….. 1,639.54
48 Wyoming….. 1,739,646 48 New Hampshire….. 1,534.94
49 North Dakota….. 1,403,293 49 Texas….. 1,434.16
50 South Dakota….. 1,110,035 50 South Dakota….. 1,430.46



Seems like the states who have higher taxes are doing better than you guys and they have Democratic legislators!!!! How can that possibly be, Tutu?????????????
What is going on here?
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so does california froggie
 
Watermark said:
Yep, liberal states all over the nation have 2000% taxes on beer. You are not living in any sort of deluded conservative fantasyland at all. Your absurd hyperbolic rhetoric is true and objective reality.
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You pay almost that much in NYC! for a beer!
 
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