California - not Alabama, Texas, or Tennessee - has always been a global leader in innovation

[Uncensored2008]

It's somewhere beautiful and idyllic. But according to you and your boyfriends, California is an atrocious hellscape

So not a Nepo - but lucked into Silicon Valley billions somehow. Commies are either welfare bums or part of the Oligarchy - NEVER in the middle.

No, my parents didn't even give me money for college, I had to figure out how to pay for it on my own

You're embarrassed to admit where you live, because like so many Marxists, you're part of the 1% and utterly disconnected from reality.

 

[Cypress]

So not a Nepo - but lucked into Silicon Valley billions somehow!!!

Wrong on all counts.

So I see you are admitting that people don't have to choose to live in LA county, and large parts of California are not the horrendous hellscape you and your Phoenix buddy claimed.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Wrong on all counts.

So I see you are admitting that people don't have to choose to live in LA county, and large parts of California are not the horrendous hellscape you and your Phoenix buddy claimed.

Parts of North Korea are not a horrendous hellscape. If one is part of the 1%.

I grew up in the San Gabriel Valley and absolutely chose not to live in Los Angeles county.

What you Marxists have done is destroy the middle class. You are quickly wiping out the middle class homes and communities that made this state great. The obscenely wealthy still have their mansions and estates. The reality is this;

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Phoenix proper is a shithole. Scottsdale and Gilbert are the decent cities in that area.

The Mexicans drove the blacks out of Compton, who all packed up and went to Phoenix - which is now Compton East.

No, it's not. The Black population here isn't that big, not even close. In Phoenix, the scum are mostly White trash meth addicts and the like. That's in places like South Snobsdale and Sunnyslope.

 

[Cypress]

Parts of North Korea are not a horrendous hellscape. If one is part of the 1%.

I grew up in the San Gabriel Valley and absolutely chose not to live in Los Angeles county.

What you Marxists have done is destroy the middle class. You are quickly wiping out the middle class homes and communities that made this state great. The obscenely wealthy still have their mansions and estates. The reality is this;

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Yet here you are, living in your lush upscale Orange County paradise, never once having ever considered relocating to Texas or Nevada, while indulging in complaining about how horrible and unlivable California is.

 

[Uncensored2008]

No, it's not. The Black population here isn't that big, not even close. In Phoenix, the scum are mostly White trash meth addicts and the like. That's in places like South Snobsdale and Sunnyslope.

Not my experience. I have a daughter in Chandler and am out there a couple of times a year. Looks like the white people are in the suburbs.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Not my experience. I have a daughter in Chandler and am out there a couple of times a year. Looks like the white people are in the suburbs.

The population is mostly White and Hispanic, Blacks are a distinct minority. Good chunk of Pakistanis and Indians too.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yet here you are, living in your lush upscale Orange County paradise,

"Lush upscale" inland suburbia. While you brag about living on a coastal estate.

Hypocrite much?

never once having ever considered relocating to Texas or Nevada, while indulging in complaining about how horrible and unlivable California is.

3 out of 4 children had to move out of state because democrats have made it unsustainable for the middle class. The 4th lives in an apartment with his wife and two children because they have no hope of buying a home, despite him making a 6 figure salary.

The Marxists declared war on the middle class in the Brown years, and have brought it to fruition. Driving the Aerospace jobs I thrived under to Texas. Destroying the petroleum industry. Wiping out the textile manufacturing. Importing illegals to break the back of construction. Even the wineries - Napa, Sonoma, and Temecula produce the finest wines in the world, are being systematically destroyed by the democrats. The ONLY thing we have left is tech, and that is leaving too. Apple is a Chinese company with an office in Cupertino. HP is effectively dead. Oracle went to Georgia.

 

[Cypress]

public defecation and fornication!!

You don't have to choose to live in San Francisco.
San Francisco is 47 square miles in size. California is 163,696 square miles.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

I actually loved San Francisco, but as with most if not all of my enjoyed destinations,
even including my home town,
my favorite hangouts no longer exist.

When I got old, my world disappeared.

That's the good thing about enjoying the simple natural things that somebody like our @ThatOwlWoman enjoys.
They're still around to some extent at least.

 

[Cypress]

"Lush upscale" inland suburbia. While you brag about living on a coastal estate.

Hypocrite much?



3 out of 4 children had to move out of state because democrats have made it unsustainable for the middle class. The 4th lives in an apartment with his wife and two children because they have no hope of buying a home, despite him making a 6 figure salary.

The Marxists declared war on the middle class in the Brown years, and have brought it to fruition. Driving the Aerospace jobs I thrived under to Texas. Destroying the petroleum industry. Wiping out the textile manufacturing. Importing illegals to break the back of construction. Even the wineries - Napa, Sonoma, and Temecula produce the finest wines in the world, are being systematically destroyed by the democrats. The ONLY thing we have left is tech, and that is leaving too. Apple is a Chinese company with an office in Cupertino. HP is effectively dead. Oracle went to Georgia.

Most of the people I know who moved out of California eventually moved back. My theory is because the state has an intangible appeal you can't find on the scorching streets of Phoenix or the sweltering swamps of Orlando.

 

[Cypress]

While you brag about living on a coastal estate!

You hounded me about where I live, I didn't bring it up as a topic. There's nothing extravagant about my car or house.

3 out of 4 children had to move out of state because democrats have made it unsustainable for the middle class.

Now you're just saying it's expensive to live here.

You started out by posting a picture of some trash on a street in Santa Ana, as proof of how gross and disgusting California was.

Now you're back to saying there are a lot of great places to live here, it's just expensive.

 

[Into the Night]

Now that conservatives have spent 30 years denying global warming and delaying any meaningful action to mitigate it, places like Phoenix will be practically unlivable in 50 years.

Phoenix is projected to get up to 70 days a year with temps in excess of 110 F. Those kind of long term sustained temperatures were unheard of when I grew up in Arizona.

Later this century there is probably going to be a great migration back to the north, including Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin

110 deg F in Phoenix? Fairly common summer temperatures, Cyborg. The highest recorded temperature at Phoenix Sky Harbor was 122 deg F.

 

[Cypress]

110 deg F in Phoenix? Fairly common summer temperatures!

Now it is.

In the 1950s extreme heat exceeding 110 F were anomalies. Back then Phoenix only averaged seven days a year over 110 F.

Now, Phoenix has been getting around 40 days a year exceeding 110 F, and it's projected to be more than 70 days a year later this century if we do nothing about GHG emissions.

That's going to make Phoenix practically unlivable for humans and animals, or extremely unhealthy at best.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Now it is.

In the 1950s extreme heat exceeding 110 F were anomalies. Back then Phoenix only averaged seven days a year over 110 F.

Now, Phoenix has been getting around 40 days a year exceeding 110 F, and it's projected to be more than 70 days a year later this century if we do nothing about GHG emissions.

That's going to make Phoenix practically unlivable for humans and animals, or extremely unhealthy at best.

I have to wonder, though, if it's a GHG problem or an overpopulation problem.
The internal combustion engine has been around since the late 1890s,
and it's really only been since post WWII that the emissions began appearing hyper-problematic.

My suspicion is that the planet cannot provide an adequate quality of life for this many billion people
regardless of what reductions in quality of life that we're willing to endure.

Further, I will readily admit that to me, at least, all the presently required solutions
DO in fact represent a serious diminishment of quality of life.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Most of the people I know who moved out of California eventually moved back. My theory is because the state has an intangible appeal you can't find on the scorching streets of Phoenix or the sweltering swamps of Orlando.

Really?

No one I know who moved out has moved back. And I know a LOT of people who have fled the state. Everyone here does. The middle class left with the jobs and opportunity. Yes, you brought in millions of illegals to replace them, but they don't really replace them at all.

Oh, and you ducked the point about your reeking hypocrisy.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Now it is.

In the 1950s extreme heat exceeding 110 F were anomalies. Back then Phoenix only averaged seven days a year over 110 F.

Now, Phoenix has been getting around 40 days a year exceeding 110 F, and it's projected to be more than 70 days a year later this century if we do nothing about GHG emissions.

That's going to make Phoenix practically unlivable for humans and animals, or extremely unhealthy at best.

Complete bullshit.

Like most cultists of the AGW church, you just make shit up.

Average Temperature in Phoenix by Year

www.extremeweatherwatch.com

From 1905 to present, there has been no substantial temperature change.

What you cultists / fraudsters did in the 90's was plant temperature gauges (thermometers) on the tarmac at Sky Harbor to create the illusion that your religion had some semblance of credibility. But you got caught. NASA and NOAA were flat out busted cooking the data.

Because your religion is a fraud from top to bottom, the fact that your priests and shamans falsified data is of little surprise.

https://public-health.tamu.edu/degrees/mph/blog/environmental/how-the-urban-heat-island-effect-affects-our-communities.html

 

[Cypress]

No one I know who moved out has moved back!!

That's because you live in the concrete jungle of the Los Angeles area.

You are biased by local geography and local experience.

No one I know from this area of the state, or who I went to college with wants to leave. Almost all the ones who did leave came back.

 

[Uncensored2008]

That's because you live in the concrete jungle of the Los Angeles area.

Not the comfort of Oakland like you?

You are biased by local geography and local experience.

No one I know from this area of the state, or who I went to college with wants to leave. Almost all the ones who did leave came back.

You never went to college. If you graduated from high school it was due to social promotion.

And if you say you don't know anyone who wants to leave California, you're flat out lying.

 

[Cypress]

You never went to college!!

UC Davis, B.S. class of 1988. and M.S. 1993.

And if you say you don't know anyone who wants to leave California, you're flat out lying!

I said I know people who left, but other than a couple exceptions, they all eventually came back.

You are more fiercely addicted and hooked to California than I am. You've never even remotely considered leaving your Orange County paradise. I actually left and lived in Texas & Louisiana for four years before coming back.